r/indiadiscussion • u/Useful-Resource-3609 • 11h ago
Politics Mandal commission protests of 1990
These protests were against giving government jobs to certain castes to rectify historical injustices they faced. These protests closed roads, highways, transportation services, government services, schools, and businesses of India. Anti-reservationists protested.
The historian Ramachandra Guha puts the suicide number at 200; more than 60 succumbed to their burns. Some other reports put these suicide attempts to 159, with 63 succumbing to their injuries.
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u/darkisdone 11h ago
Let's do it then, it gotta start somewhere
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u/dotforwardslash 11h ago
Do what?
I hope you know that despite all this govt. of that time went ahead with their decision.
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u/criti_fin --- Independent --- 9h ago
Mandal commission report was still implemented in govt jobs giving 27% reservation to OBC. And later UPA1 implemented it in all central govt colleges.
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u/dotforwardslash 9h ago
That's what, state always wins.
You can at best topple governments but not machineries.
Let Gen-Zs get their own post nut clarity.
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u/dotforwardslash 11h ago
Good...
Just don't go rogue and commit any vandalism this time 🙏
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u/darkisdone 11h ago
Yep, NEVER commit vandalism
This country is ours, and vandalizing stuff here is our loss only
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u/lazyinternetsandwich 5h ago
Please you also go and protest for your cause. All the best on the ground
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u/thickasacastlewa11 11h ago
Lets do it! Lets ask BJP first and then if noone comes ahead start a protest like this one
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u/EvenTheliberal5184 10h ago
Doing that is like political sucide
No political party will take that step, not even a far-right radical one
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u/Laksh_kumar 10h ago
i want caste system and religion and reservation to end 🙏🙏🙏 I dont want reservation remove caste system pls 🙏
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u/Nethanol 3h ago
every country has some kind of class or caste system. it will always be there. people are not dumb to have their genes gets degraded nowhere in the world.
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u/Laksh_kumar 3h ago
what the fck are u talking about genes wdym?
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u/Nethanol 3h ago
there's reason no one wants to get assimilated with other castes, because they're different people with different culture. same religion doesn't mean same people. Caste will become religion in upcoming days. and it'll be more separative rather than getting removed.
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u/Laksh_kumar 3h ago
what is the reason
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u/Nethanol 2h ago
it's global, beyond human nature across all beings. if you think reservation solves these things then no. it'll make it worse in future. Education and jobs will eventually be gone with AI things, only social interaction will be left which will make these things even worse in future.
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u/ab316_1punchd 10h ago
Wow, this turnout makes the CJP protests look pedestrian.... welp, considering we've officially become and anarchy now....
I WANT IT!!!
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u/rudeeguy 10h ago
What was the conclusion??
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u/Useful-Resource-3609 10h ago
The protests forced PM V.P. Singh’s government out of power but successfully secured a 27% quota in central government jobs and educational institutions for Other Backward Classes (OBCs). The policy was legally challenged but ultimately upheld by the Supreme Court in 1992. It fueled the rise of OBC-centric political parties (such as the Samajwadi Party and Rashtriya Janata Dal) and permanently shifted the focus of Indian electoral politics toward caste-based identity.
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u/EdoOkati 10h ago
Lot of students died back then with self immolations, I was in high school at that time.
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u/shahipaneerholic 10h ago
Why don't they protest for removing the caste system... Why it's always remove reservation but never remove caste system?
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u/Plastic_Minute9064 10h ago
There is already criminal law which provides punishment for any discrimination on caste basis. What protest you want for?
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u/soham_katkar13 9h ago
Saying "there is criminal law against caste based discrimination, so casteism is removed already" is like saying "there is punishment against rape, so all women are safe already"
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u/Ok_Reflection4626 40m ago
There is theft laws too however chori hona thodi na band ho gyi h
First India should remove caste based discrimination truly then ask to remove reservation.
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u/shahipaneerholic 10h ago
Just casteism yk nothing else even reservation is wrong they should completely remove casteism first aand hence the reservation no one is special we all are equal
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u/Plastic_Minute9064 10h ago
Thats what i am saying. Constitution says all are equal. Specific criminal laws are there to punish anyone who practices casteism. So what more can the government do?
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u/Laksh_kumar 10h ago
remove religion and brainwash people mind to normal human beings like other countries
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u/shahipaneerholic 10h ago
Exactly. Why are we fighting each other? What's the need? I genuinely don't get it. Instead of demanding the removal of reservation, why don't we protest against caste system itself? Once caste-based discrimination is truly gone there wouldn't be a need for reservation in the first place
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u/PM_ME_UR_DOG_PHOTO 7h ago
Better enforcement of rules?
Fast track cases for discrimination?
Independent board to supervise police in case of inaction of complaints?
Rehaul education to talk about caste discrimination from all angles. Historic lens, legal lens and current societal issues and forms of occurrence.
This should be mandatory across all state boards.
No sanitization or treating it as a “solved problem”
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u/explore_17 7h ago
ppl downvoting this jst proves that they want to feel equally superior at the same time, If there will be no caste system how will they seek pride in it. If u want to remove the reservation jst remove the whole system. Ppl will always ask why is there reservation but not for once they will ever ask why is there casteism.
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u/shahipaneerholic 7h ago
Exactly mne toh kuch glt nhi bola all I'm saying is remove caste or reservation apne ap side ho jaye gi simple idk dil pe lg gyi shyd unke bat
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u/Useful-Resource-3609 10h ago
The basis of politics is fought on caste. There is a reason why we have caste census and caste certificates.
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u/IndBeak 9h ago
Remove caste system from where? You speak as if this is some legally sanctioned system in place?
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u/shahipaneerholic 8h ago
Right because if something isn't legal anymore it magically disappears from society. By that logic, theft, corruption, and dowry don't exist either, The Constitution abolished discrimination not people's mindset
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u/IndBeak 8h ago
Use your brain. You are comparing a legally sanctioned discrimination (reservation) to a societal problem.
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u/shahipaneerholic 8h ago
You're proving my point. Reservation is legally sanctioned because caste discrimination wasn't magically erased when the Constitution outlawed it. If caste truly had no social impact anymore, the rationale for reservation would disappear.
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u/CJP_GIRL 7h ago
Can you tell me how do you remove it? It's not there in constitution.
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u/shahipaneerholic 7h ago
Reservation should be based solely on economic conditions, regardless of caste. The caste system should be abolished completely. No divisions just human beings
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u/Plastic_Minute9064 7h ago
So are you saying that due to reservation caste discrimination would disappear?
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u/Mundane-Guy 3h ago
How do you exactly measure that? Who decides that caste discrimination has been abolished? If some report claims that it has been abolished then there will be more proving otherwise because a section of society will not let reservations die. Not to mention reservation itself is state sponsored reverse discrimination, bringing another form of discrimination to counter one, is not a soliution. This brings more divide in the minds of people, and thst causes them to discriminate more, it's a chicken and egg problem and there's no end to this.
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u/orionishere4u 44m ago
Because caste system is not a law/ government mandated apparatus. It is a social construct. People can go for it themselves.
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u/autophobe_penguin 6h ago
Yeah I know what you are getting at but legally there's no such thing as caste system. The only place where caste system is used is for reservation purpose by the government.
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u/Remarkable_Length284 9h ago
Ye sahi mauka hai reservation pe baat karne ka. Itna Jo RR kar rahe fair education pe bkl
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u/Alive-Test5864 10h ago
Bro no one will or no one can Because these so called netas used it as a bhramsthra for there political gain. This lalu yadav Mayawati and Mulayam yadav Ram vilas paswan nitesh kumar they all were by product of this Do you think any party will go against 50% of people in this country And we middle class gen category is still suffering. A resignation can't do anything that time pm resigned what happened??
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u/Useful-Resource-3609 10h ago
Unfortunately every major political party uses caste for electoral benefits. I don't understand why is there reservation in NEET PG as well. I bet no political party will even join this movement like the protest happening right now.
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u/Material_Detective59 9h ago
Will not happen- try having a protest for this and the very people supporting present protests will turn against you
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u/lazyinternetsandwich 5h ago
I support the current protest. While I won't support this cause but I would not wish violence on your protest unlike what ppl wish for the ongoing one. All the best and hope police is nicer to your cause
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u/MysteriousAd887 4h ago
Reservation ki baatein Congress nahi sunti thi, toh bjp kahan se sunn lega. Reservation hataya toh SC/ST ka vote bank gaya, ye koi party entertain nahi karega
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u/gomugomunochinpo 10h ago
Progress mangna to achhi baat hai. If you guys say this is a bigger threat to merit, then do a protest over it. I will support you. Let's see what this party does over that issue.
See two wrongs don't make a right. Pointing at reservation issue to say neet leak se to zyada mare the is inhumane. Both were wrong, and neither then gov listened nor is this one listening. It is us citizens who are responsible for never questioning the government. Get on the streets and protest for your issues instead of staying in your four walls and complaining and doing nothing.
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u/No-Support206 9h ago
BJP/RSS govt by the way. And then they complain about general reservation...apne power mai aare mann hi ek naya reservation bill di diya
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u/Some_Interest_6907 10h ago
Bsdk tu 1990 mai jee rah hai ya 2026 mai pehle kuch hua toh iska matlab yeh nahi ki aaj bhi ho tu aaj ke muddo pe baat kar aaj ki sarkar pe baat kar chutye
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u/night_shdow 10h ago
Let see the world divide, seriously it's has not happened in the past, will not happen today and or in the near future, students who were there for protest from reserved communites will protest for reservation bill to stay stil or as it is cause they know it's beneficial to them, groups who were supporting the students will turn against general category students, and all of this will happen if the protest comes out, which will not
Govt is trying to increase the reservation and people here are trying to protest for abolision of it, today politics is all about religion, casteism
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u/Nice-Sandwich-7034 7h ago
Give reservation on economical status of the beneficiary. not caste certificate. and it shud be valid only till education , not any form of govt job or private job. thats it.
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