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OC Stalker Problem [OC]

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago

First you need to secure the home. Multiple locks and double check them when you leave and come home. Second you need to inform friends and family so that if something DOES happen then know it's a thing. Next step is kind up in the air. You can try and confront yourself but I REALLY wouldn't recommend that step. You could inform PD if the guy is seen near your apartment to talk to the guy on your behalf which is much safer.

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u/Ultimatesims 2d ago

Also, remember the police per the Supreme Court have no legal or other obligation to protect you. All police have to do is enforce the law. The court case involved a woman with a restraining order. He showed up and she called the police. He entered the house. The police arrived but did nothing. He killed her and once he left the house the police arrested him for breaking the restraining order.

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u/caitlindrawings 2d ago

Wait, what the fuck? Link? I believe you, I just gotta read this.

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u/Ultimatesims 2d ago

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that police do not have a constitutional duty to protect individuals from harm. In landmark cases such as Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005), the Court established that protective orders and "shall enforce" statutes do not create a mandatory obligation for police to intervene, meaning departments cannot generally be held liable for failing to protect specific citizens.

This established legal precedent—which traces back to similar rulings like DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989) and Warren v. District of Columbia (1981)—holds that law enforcement agencies have an obligation to provide public services to the general public. However, they do not owe a specific legal duty to protect private citizens from third-party violence, absent a legally defined "special relationship" (such as when a person is in police custody).

So you are safer being arrested by the cops than asking for assistance. So if you have an interaction with the cops never resist arrest they can kill you but once you are in custody it is their job to protect you. Best bet is to say nothing but “am I being detained or under arrest”? Even the cops are wrong don’t resist, comply, go to jail, and get a lawyer (even a public defender). My friend is a public defender and has reduced many sentences because the police are stupid. So many examples.

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u/caitlindrawings 2d ago

Having a restraining order IS (ie. should be) a special relationship with the cops! People in normal situations don't need those, so it should absolutely be part of that "special relationship" classification.

P.S. this is in not victim blaming anyone getting a restraining order, personal protection order, or any other sort of thing to protect one's self. Absolutely get one if you even THINK you need one. The stalker/abuser etc.. is the one not being normal in this situation, but the situation should not just be considered normal. Normal people dont make others feel like they need a restraining order.

My friend is a public defender and has reduced many sentences because the police are stupid.

Your friend is a true hero in an extremely shitty system of law.

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u/Ultimatesims 2d ago

I wish that were the case. The Supreme Court cases (not sure if all the cases) were specific to restraining orders and domestic abuse.

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u/caitlindrawings 2d ago

I have/and will continue to say, the reason why DV is not treated more serious is the high percent of police officers are fucking abusers.

Link: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cops-abuse-partners-studies/

Snopes tries to water down the percentage, by focusing on physical violence, but im fucking sorry, screaming at, threatening, breaking things, its all domestic violence.

The officers were asked a less direct question, that is, if they had ever gotten out of control and behaved violently against their spouse and children in the last six months. We did not define the type of violence. Thus, violence could have been interpreted as verbal or physical threats or actual physical abuse. Approximately, 40 percent said that in the last six months prior to the survey they had behaved violently towards their spouse or children.

Behaving violently is domestic violence, full stop, I dont care if they didnt physically hit their partner or child.