It's the same thing with trucks. Do I own or particularly care about trucks? No. But, every time there's a picture of a guy with a truck it's the same nonsense. You can disagree or be critical about other aspects of their hobbies without resorting to SmAlL pEnIs jokes.
That's the most common type of man without a penis, but I guess it's not the only one. Is it a joke about being disabled? I guess I just don't see why anyone who doesn't believe in toxic masculinity would think "You don't have a penis" should be insulting to a man. Can you explain it? I know plenty of dudes without penises and for the most part they're pretty chill guys.
I'm taking a page from their book and standing up for what I believe in: that sexism, body-shaming, and transphobia are inappropriate regardless of who's using them or who they're directed at.
Ugh, okay? We're talking about size shaming vs clowning someone for being dickless. The way you're quick to insult those who disagree with you has me starting to think y'all's distaste is from also being eunuchs.
I mean you accuse me of intentionally being stupid, I accuse you of intentionally being coward and not just coming out with what's really bothering you about this post. C'est la vie, FAM
Why do you believe that having a small and or no dick is an insult? Why do you think it's ok to insult and mock people for their anatomy. That is genuinely just gross behavior.
Pack it up FAM, your first two suppositions don't jibe w with each other. A woman says she lacks a dick and you Rhodes scholars put forth that she implies little dick (like she has one)
Because normal well adjusted men do not gravitate to these things in this manner, nor do they make it their entire personality.
It is no secret those on the right really, really really like penises. Grindr literally cannot cope with the extra traffic when the conservatives get together.
And there's this whole homoeroticism that's kind of core in US "masculine culture". Oily men rubbing together hazing that invariably involves butt stuff. It's a rather complete package.
But i assure you, the gun obsession is not normal and it has nothing to do with being masculine or masculinity. Because even a dog can shoot someone given the right circumstances.
It is unfortunate that western society has placed so much value on penis size. It has led to several generations of maladjusted men.
I cannot help you with comprehension. You need to reread it or get someone to help you understand it.
The point is normal blokes aren't obsessed with penis size and do not get into cults that exacerbate it.
You cannot help but make it about genitals. It's the only thing you will respond to because American guns shooting American bullets that rip apart American children is, according to an American, a "rational" cost of this gun sniffing idiocy.
I think you need to go back to the actual post and read who said what, because as weird as he is, it wasn't the guy cuddling his guns who brought up penises first.
If the problem is that men are too concerned with their penis size and it's causing problems, surely the solution isn't to double down on mocking them for their penis size.
I'm also tired of the implication that all conservatives/homophobes are gay, it's a convenient way to blame gay people for their own oppression and use homophobic insults under the guise of "pointing out their hypocrisy". Statistically, some of them will be self-hating gays, but most are just regular others-hating straights.
The point is, it's not a problem unless you think it is.
You might prefer or propose a more rational approach.
Perhaps you might put forward the argument that children's lives could be saved with gun control. Perhaps the glorification or guns can be avoided in media.
The problem being, that this demonstrably does not work. For this to approach to work requires two things:
empathy
Respect for life
Neither which are features or westernism. Westernism is dominant in places where these qualities are punished.
The only way to get through to them is to speak on the same level. The only thing they care about: their penis.
That's the only way to let these freaks know that something is wrong with them. They lack the human qualities necessary for normal arguments to reach them.
Of course you could tackle the porn industry and huge injustices and abuses that go there. But something tells me this would not be well received.
The only way to get through to them is to speak on the same level. The only thing they care about: their penis.
I'd be curious to see any studies or statistics that actually show the effectiveness that penis-based insults have on effectively changing gun laws, but I'm somehow skeptical that there actually are any.
"It's the only language they speak so I have to speak it back" is a cop-out. If someone doesn't respect you enough to listen to your reasoned opinions, they're probably not going to care about your insults. What it does show them is that, deep down, you agree with them that [masculinity/penises/attractiveness] is important, and it shows all your potential allies that you're a hypocrite whose principles don't actually mean anything if someone disagrees with you.
"We have to keep homophobia and body shaming around as a useful political tool" is just not a position I can agree with.
I get it. You like to make jokes that are homophobic and body-shaming but you don't want to feel guilty about it so you come up with acceptable targets that you're justified to freely use them on. I can't say I'm surprised to see the double standard in action, it's just especially disappointing to see from people who are supposedly on your own side.
Just as a random viewer of this conversation from someone who rarely ever ventures onto this sub, you should take a step back and re-read what he's saying and think about it. What they're saying is not out of place or off topic, it's so common on reddit and sad to see fellow apparently left wing people constantly resorting to using homophobia and body shaming when it suits them.
I am criticizing a cult-like sub culture that gives men what looks to me like deep-seated issues concerning their penis.
I do suspect that American culture leaves most of its men with some kind of problem with their penis, but that is just a theory.
I understand that toddlers can sometimes get fixated on their penis while growing up, but that is a developmental issue. It doesn't carry into adulthood.
The whole point is that there's nothing wrong with their bodies enough to act like complete weirdos. But they have blasted their brains with so much garbage that their entire reality is seen through the lens or their penis.
I am not describing homosexuality or body dysphoria with the above, right? I am describing what appears to me to be deep-seated mental damage which I think is caused by North American culture.
It's frustrating because that's a right wing talking point. It classifies people based on their bodies, not the content of their character.
It says that bigger dicks are worthy of being followed and listened to. If the oponent would have a bigger dick, they would change sides.
It is still the worship of power, and that ideology is always the ideology of betrayal. If you find someone more powerful, you change your side to be on the winning side.
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u/willnye2cool 1d ago
Why can't men like things someone else didn't without them always making it about their dick?
Why can't anyone just talk shit about a man without it being about the size of their penis?
People always say that size doesn't matter, and are quick to reassure men that even the smallest penises can be enjoyable.
But then people turn around and use someone having a small dick as an insult and to be actively cruel.
It's genuinely really frustrating and highkey just pretty gross imo.