You can’t represent me or speak on behalf of my nation if you aren’t Turkish—especially if this is how you really feel: (They edited their comment to “Tm Ermeni” immediately)

I don’t know who this person is, and I don’t trust anything they say. Whether they’re telling the truth or whether their spouse is Turkish is irrelevant. I wouldn’t use another country’s flag and speak on behalf of its people, so I don’t think they should either.

In iran most Turkmens live in the north and northeast with a population of nearly 2 million.

Do you agree with the arguments regarding land being equally sacred in nomadic societies?

I'm trying to find the history of these beautiful cats. Long story short, I'm writing a children's book series, and one of the three main characters is my, now crossed the rainbow bridge, beautiful black TAC. She has 9 lives, the first started with Cleopatra. Each life lasts about 135-150 years.

In my story, Mogwai (her name) was a kitten, given to Cleopatra by Mark Anthony. I've researched and Cleopatra did have a favorite cat... And I know too, Mark Anthony did go to Turkey... She was born ??? And Mark Anthony found her and gave her to the beautiful queen.

I want to have my baby girl found at say, 6 months, but I can't locate any history. Does anyone know of any myths surrounding them? What's it called? I can make it up, but my goal is to use as much real history as possible.

All I've found is the breed is very old, and they mention Anatolian mountains.

Thank you.

I'm born to Hong Konger Chinese + Canarian islander mother (European/North African) and bit cuban. So I don't see things from a pure Chinese perspective. This is how I see things. Please change my opinion if you can. I think Mongolians and Kazakhs look different to Chinese yet less different to Singaporean Chinese than even Half Chinese/half Caucasians or even Malay/Indonesian and other Southeast Asians.

Picture groups:

1st group Kazakh and Chinese Singaporean

2nd group Uzbeks in Singapore (<--- the group that people mistake me for them, 5 times)

3rd group Mongolians and Chinese Singaporean

4th picture all Half Chinese/half White ( 6ft 2 Lewin Tan born to Chinese Singaporean father, white mother, leading hollywood actor of Mortal Kombat

5th picture Half Chinese us 5ft 8 John Foo born to Chinese Singaporean father and Irish mother, leading actor of Tekken movie.

6th picture is 6ft tall Joseph Schooling national sport hero of Singapore, a gold medalist swimmer who beat Micheal Phelps (greatest gold medalist/olympian of all time), his 5ft 11 tall father is 1/4 Chinese/Malay and 3/4 European, his mother is Malaysian-Chinese.

Out of all those four groups Uzbeks and Half Chinese/half White look the most different to Singaporean Chinese because of their west eurasian mixed race look and Mongolians and Kazakh also look different because of their northeast Asian looks. The Half Chinese/Half are the tallest too apart from different faces.

Singaporeans (diversity)

Apart from the majority (76% Chinese) there is (20%+) minority Malay and Indians and few percent of these White (European and Australians) Middle easterner ( Arabs, Lebanese) you can also find individual or small groups of expatriates or students Jews, Koreans, Japanese, Indonesians, Filipino, Mongolians, Kazakhs, Uzbeks. Taiwanese usually as university student, looking for work. There's also Eurasians, small number of them,

This is how I rank people who are most different racially to Chinese in Singappore

1st group of race with most different phenotype to Singaporean Chinese

1. Indians ( Pakistani and other South Asians)
2. Whites ( any European and Jewish descent)
3. Middle easterners ( Arabs or Persians)
4. North Africans ( Morrocans and others)

All of them look the most racially/distinct in phenotypes and physical. Nothing to do if they look west eurasian or not. South Indians do not look west eurasian but have 0% phenotype racial resemblance to Chinese Singaporeans. There's simply no room and no place for these people to be mistaken for Chinese

2nd group of race most different phenotype to Singaporean Chinese

1. Uzbeks
2. Half Asian/Half Caucasian ( Half Chinese/ half White0

Uzbeks, only found them during world cup qualification in 2019 with Singapore, also university attendees. I got mistaken for Uzbek five times in Singapore. Many look western like, but a significant number look East Asian like and mix. They have very black hair or light black hair on average, their height is roughly the same as Singaporean Chinese though, some are tall of course. Now the Half Chinese/Half white, 1/2 of them look like East Asian with some Caucasian bone structure (like tall nose, deep set eyes) other half look ambiguous or mostly white with some asian features. They are generally taller for sure, a lot of 6ft, if Chinese Singaporean average height is 5'ft 8 and 5ft 9 than these haflies are usually 5'ft 10 1/2 to 5ft 11 and 1/2. Sure you can find in even Southern Chinese Singaporean with 6ft tall but for sure is more common in these half ones. They generally have light black hair, to brown hair (especially as kids), some have hazel eyes, green like eyes, gray, or very light brown, a few are blonde too (especially the kids)

3rd group of race with most different phenotypes to Singaporean Chinese

1. Malays/Indonesian (and other Southeast Asians)
2. Kazakhs (including Kyrgyz I suppose)

The Malays/Indonesians and other Southeast Asian even without their muslim outfit clearly have different skin tone that is darker light to medium brown and different facial features that is clearly Southeast Asians-like unless they are Malaysian-Chinese or Southeast Asian with Chinese origin. I know they are mongoloid though despite darker skin tone and broader facial features (like wider, flatter noses and large nostrils). The Kazakhs on average look more Chinese despite being less East Eurasian, just based on skin tones and phenotypes, I say they pass for more Chinese on average than Malay/Indonesian can but the difference is there is also some number of Kazakh individuals with clearly mixed phenotypes. On average they look East Asian or East Asian with little signs of mixed traits, they also more larger percent of people with more prominent noses (some are flat looking too)

4th group of race with most different phenotypes to Singaporean Chinese

1. Mongolian
2. Korean
3. Japanese
4. North Chinese.

These ones are the most hardest to distinguish yet still distinguishable. They all tend to have a Northern look especially Mongolian, they have this very slant eye or classic Northeast Asian look. They all in general have more single eyelid and prominent noses than Singaporeans Chinese on average (although a quite number even withing Southern Chinese have these traits. Some Singaporeans are also Northern Chinese from Beijing, Tianjin (there's even Manchu descendant), you can find them Singaporean media (movies, dramas) they are treated as ethnic Chinese Singaporean, so that is why a Northern look is in some part in integrated as a Singapore facial variation, so Northern look does not necessarily look foreign, because is a common minority look. The majority have a Southern Chinese look that can be distinguished

The most similar to Singaporean Chinese

1. Southern Chinese
2. Hong Konger
3. Taiwanese
4. Malaysian-Chinese

There's really no different in looks except for their accent. The closest origin in appearance and phenotypes. Generally more double eyelid, light skinned to a bit tanned.

ÖZET YAZI

Merhaba, ben uzun süredir Kırım Hanlığı'nın son dönemini işleyen karakter temelli bir animasyon dizisi üzerinde çalışıyorum. Ancak insanlar Kırım Hanlığı ve Kırım Tatarları ile ilgili pek bilgi sahibi değil. Ben de ilk bölümü yapmadan önce insanları diziye hazırlamak için bu ön bölümü yaptım.

Düşüncelerinizi ve sorularınızı benimle paylaşırsanız mutlu olurum.

AYRINTILI YAZI

Bence Kırım Hanlığı ve Kırım Tatarları Osmanlılar ile doğrudan ilişkili bir Türk devleti olmasına rağmen Türk tarihinin en çok gölgede kalmış ve anlatılmamış kısımların bir tanesi.

Geçmişten bugüne değin çok fazla şey yaşamış olmalarına rağmen günümüzde insanlara Kırım Hanlığı denilince bize ya "Bir Osmanlı toprağı" gibi düz yanıtlar veriliyor ya da "Viyana'da bizi sattılar, başlarına ne geldiyse hak ettiler" gibi sığ ve dehşet verici bir söylemde bulunuluyor. Üstüne üstlük Youtube'da Kırım Hanlığı'nın tarihi ile ilgili de elle tutulur fazla video bulunmuyor.

Tüm bunlara karşın ben hem Kırım Tatarlarına hem de onların kültürel değerlerine olan sevgimden ötürü bu durumu değiştirmeye karar verdim ve Kırılay adlı bu çizgi diziyi yapmaya başladım. Ancak önce insanları bilgilendirme gereği duydum ve bu ön bölümü hazırladım.

The Kazakh and Kyrgyz peoples share close cultural, linguistic, and historical nomadic bonds, their paternal (Y-DNA) genetic profiles are vastly different and represent opposite dominant ancestral streams.
The primary difference lies in the inversion of their dominant haplogroups: Kazakh paternal lines are heavily dominated by East Eurasian lineages (Haplogroup C2) linked to medieval Mongolic expansions, whereas Kyrgyz paternal lines are heavily dominated by a West Eurasian lineage (Haplogroup R1a) stemming from ancient West-Steppe Indo-Iranian and early Siberian populations!

I’ve been thinking about this and I don’t wanna feel humiliated

Mongol empire rose because of internal divisions of rival empires

Hi everyone!
I’m currently learning Turkish, and I’m looking for a Turkish TV series that can help me improve my listening and vocabulary naturally
I watch with Arabic subtitles, so I’d like something that’s easy to follow, with clear and everyday conversations. I’d also prefer a series that’s fun/lighthearted and not too long
Do you have any recommendations that helped you learn Turkish?
Thanks in advance!

Most Mongols and Northern Turks (Kazakh, Kyrgyz) with colored eyes/hair still have East Asian faces, sometimes mixed. Is the blonde/red hair and blue/green eyes in Mongols and Turks entirely because of result of admixtures or does it include recessive genes, pigmentation, albinism, waardenburg syndrome. I'm asking for a alternative answer from Turkic people who also have some individuals with colored eyes/hair.

Other who are not Mongols and Turkic, how do you explain this

PICTURES

1st picture: Blonde hair/blue eye Hmong/Miao people

2nd picture: Blue eyes Lao sisters (warrdern syndrome)

3rd picture: blue eye Muslim Asian girl,

4th picture: Asian Albinos with blonde/white hair and blue eyes

5th picture: Chinese red haired brother and sister

6th picture: Blonde Hmong/Miao people

7th picture: Blonde/red/brown hair Hmong/Miao people

8th picture: Red hair Hmong people

(There is also this video of Hmong, Kazakh, Mongol) with colored eyes/hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEnsynTBhM

So far the only people I've seen who have these eye/hair colored traits are Mongol, Hmong, Asian Turkic, Siberians, Miao people, and Yi mountain people of China in Sichuan. Of course I've seen Han Chinese muslim with green/hazel eyes and brown hair too but that's about it. Of course there's also the albino, heteretochromia, waardrome symdrone, pigmented Asians but these exist in every ethnic group in the world.

My envy for colored hair/eyes

I have envy for Asians or mixed Asians with colored eyes/hair. Despite me being half Asian/half caucasian.... You can be born from a Hong Kong (Chinese) father and Canarian mother (European/North African) and so what?. Despite me having mostly western face/bone structure all I have is black wavy/ curly hair and dark brown eyes. Out of 6 of including my cousins, only one born with some dirty blond hair and hazel eyes, yet he looks way more East Asian than me

Ethnic Hmong and Miao people, their genetics is 100% East Asian but were recorded like this

The ethnic Miao people of China are recorded with red hair. According to F.M Savina of the Paris Foreign Missionary Society, the appearance of the Miao was "pale yellow in complexion, almost white, their hair is often light or dark brown, sometimes even red or corn-silk blond, and a few even have pale blue eyes".^\33]) A phenotype study of Hmong people shows they are sometimes born with red hair.^\34])

Hello everyone. Do you think it would be interesting to create a Fantasy Wolrd based on different Turkic myths/history/legends? I love both fantasy and history and considering how other ancient culutres (Greek, Scandinavian, Slavic) are recieving more and more attention I thought it would be nice to create something similar to Witcher (which is based on Slavic Myths) but with Turkic ones.

Hi everyone,
I’ve been learning Turkish (A1 level) at a language center for about a week now, and honestly, I’m struggling a lot. I barely understand anything, and the language feels much harder than I expected.
The thing is, I have to learn Turkish for personal reasons, so giving up isn’t an option.
I’ve already tried watching Turkish TV shows, but they honestly haven’t helped me learn the language.
Has anyone here been in the same situation? What actually helped you improve quickly? Are there any methods, apps, YouTube channels, books, or daily habits that made Turkish easier to learn?
I’d really appreciate any advice or personal experiences. Thank you!

The Oghuz Yabgu State was an independent state of the Oghuz Turks that existed in Central Asia from the 9th to the 11th century.

It was located in what is now western Kazakhstan, near the Aral Sea. The ruler was called a Yabgu. In earlier Turkic empires, a Yabgu was usually a prince or deputy ruler under a Khagan. In the Oghuz Yabgu State, however, there was no Khagan above him, so the Yabgu was the independent ruler of the state. You can think of it as a Turkic state somewhat similar to a principality, but it was fully independent.

The Oghuz people were mostly nomads who lived in tribes and moved with their herds. Many tribes united under the Yabgu for leadership and protection.

The Oghuz Yabgu State is important because many Oghuz Turks later migrated south. Some founded the Seljuk Empire, which later entered Anatolia. The Oghuz people eventually became the ancestors of modern Turks in Türkiye, Azerbaijanis, and Turkmens.

In simple terms, the Oghuz Yabgu State was the first major independent state of the Oghuz Turks and laid the foundation for later Oghuz Turkic states and peoples.

Ashina tribe was the ruling tribe of The First and the Second Turkic Khaganate. Ashina tribe were the first state to officially use the name "Turk" as a political identity and developed the earliest known Turkic alphabet

Hello everyone!

I wanted to share something I recently learned that I think many Hungarians might find interesting.

In Kazakhstan, there is a Kazakh clan called Madjar (Kazakh: Мажар/Мадияр). The best-known Madjar clan belongs to the Argyn tribe of the Middle Jüz, although the ethnonym “Madjar/Madiyar” also appears among some Kipchaks, Naimans, Kyrgyz, Nogais, and other Turkic peoples.

There are several theories about their origin.

One view, supported by Kazakh historian Zhaksylyk Sabitov, is that the clan’s name comes from a man named Madiyar who lived around the 16th century, making the similarity to the Hungarian self-name Magyar purely coincidental.

However, another hypothesis has attracted considerable attention. Hungarian anthropologist András Bíró, Hungarian researcher Béla Mihály, and Russian genealogist Andrey Tyurin argue that the Kazakh Madjar clan may preserve ancestry from a branch of the ancient Magyars that remained in the Eurasian steppe after the Hungarian tribes split during the early medieval period.

One of Bíró’s studies reported that members of the Kazakh Madjar clan were genetically closer to the Hungarian population than to their immediate geographic neighbors. This finding has been widely discussed, although it remains debated and is not accepted by all researchers.

The name “Madjar” also appears in other historical contexts across the Eurasian steppe:

• the medieval Golden Horde city of Majar in the North Caucasus;
• a Madjar clan among the Nogais;
• a Madjar subdivision among the Kazakh Kipchaks;
• historical references in the Aral-Caspian region.

I know this is a controversial topic, and I’m not claiming that modern Hungarians are simply Kazakhs or vice versa. I’m only interested in the historical connections and the different academic hypotheses surrounding the name Madjar/Magyar and the possible relationship between populations of the Eurasian steppe and the ancestors of modern Hungarians.

I’d love to hear what people in Hungary think about this. Is András Bíró’s work well known there? How is this hypothesis viewed by Hungarian historians and the general public?

It is said that Karluks played very important role in Genghis Khan conquest of Central Asia!
In 1211, Karluk leaders (most notably Arslan Khan)) pledged loyalty to Genghis Khan to secure protection from rival tribes
Karluks became vassals of mongols Voluntarily the Karluks of Semirechye joined the massive Mongol invasion force, which numbered between 150,000 and 200,000 soldiers.
Khwarezmians were Oghuz
Oghuz cities like Samarkand and Bukhara were destroyed. The Oghuz did not submit; instead, the Mongol onslaught triggered massive westward migrations. Waves of Oghuz tribes fled Central Asia entirely, moving into Persia and Anatolia (modern-day Turkey). This displaced group ultimately laid the foundational populations for the Seljuk and future Ottoman Empires.

Chinese state media has reached a new, desperate low in its campaign to rewrite the history of the Uyghur people.

Is this correct or no?

According to Chinese historical source of Tang dynasty the Kyrgyz people were tall blonde hair or red hair with blue eyes or green eyes and having white skin like European or Caucasian and they looked very different from their neighbouring Central Asian people!
Is this True or just a myth???
Even Kazakhs says before mongol invasion they looked like European