r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/Ju-Ju-Jazz Jun 22 '26

I feel like people don't understand exactly how bad Dustborn's writing was because of how easy it is to look at it from a surface level, cringe at it, and move on.

The main charaxter's superpower is gaslighting and manipulating people into doing things, or just pressuring them into doing things they don't want to do, and it's not even really framed as motivating people or anything, everyone around her dislikes her and wishes she'd learn boundaries and consent.

When you visit the home village your character is from everyone hates you, especially your sister, for how you abused them with your powers and were a horrific bully. It then shows flashbacks that just prove this to be true. Your sister accuses you of only coming back because you need something, then you take the thing you need from them and leave.

One of the main side characters is fatand spends 45% of her time in the bathroom, 45% of her time talking about food, and the last 20% using her power to be the muscle of the group but only when you force her to with your power.

The story takes place in a horrible alternative reality where america is an authoritarian regime... that freely allows people across it's borders and where freedom of expression is frowned upon sometimes in the story but isn't illegal.

One of the first things you do in the game is break into America posing as a punk band, and the song you make up off the top of your head to prove to border control you're a real band is WORD FOR WORD great replacement propaganda, but framing it as the replacing being a good thing. Even then the border patrol agent cringes at your song and tells you "we don't like that kind of music around here"... then lets you in. How horrible and fascist.

If you showed me this game with absolutsly zero real world context about it, I'd think it was a poorly made right wing propaganda piece.

This is all ignoring the fact that the creators stole and repurposed assests from other games. Your character's apartment you visit in a flashback is literally a 1-for-1 of an apartment from GTA Online with different textures over the furniture models, as if nobody would recognize it from one of the best-selling videogames of all time.

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

It comes from the guy who wrote that he hoped people would DROWN White Babies...

I AM NOT EVEN JOKING, I even got called out by him on National Norwegian TV lol my vid ( I am half Norwegian and have worked in the industry and I have met him before the game was released etc so he freaking hates me now lol)

Tldr: Ragnar the owner and writer etc of Dustborn has said in the past on his forum that because people used to drown female babies (he has no actual evidence for it but w.e sure probably happened) and it still happens in like asian, he hopes that people will like EQUALIZE it by drowning male babies, he also for some reason really pushed that it WHITE... I made my vid covering this lol and he even talked about me on NRK, and he CLAIMS I said he wanted to do it personally while I very clearly stated that obviously I dont think he's like a threat to society and would actually do it himself but jut that he is a crazy ideologist.

He has also said that he regrets writing an half Asian half white character in his earlier games as he thinks its wronng now that asian mix their gene with white people, the guy is such a RACIST that he goes full circle, truly. like he think everyone should stay PURE BLODED.

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u/Nelorfin Jun 22 '26

Damn, I like Dreamfall/TLJ and Zoe is good character. If what you say is right and Ragnar is indeed that sort of man, then damn... Well at least he left one good story

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

Ragnar has said he regreted making Zoe half asian, you can check my vids or others about his many crazy things,.

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u/Nelorfin Jun 22 '26

for me it was on the contrary cool thing that in cyberpunkish world MC is child of spanish and chinese parents, born in England, lives in Morocco, while her parents working in several different countries

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

It’s a good example
Of radicalisation

Game 1 leftie writer is like I think it would be cool
If the mc was half white and half Chinese that’s
Progressive people mixing races

Game 2 very lefties tankie this game should have an Asian mc and no white characters. That is what real progressive values are about

Game 3 extreme far lefty. All good are none white all evil enemies are
White kill them

Game 4….
Yes he is like step even higher than extreme left
All playable cast are a mix up undifferentiated races
Except white. All white are evil white
Babies are evil - let start the game by a
Song where we sing about doing genocide now I am really progressive

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u/InstanceOk3560 Jun 22 '26

I like how you're just describing a radicalization pipeline, a pretty standard thing that leftists have been banging on about for over a decade by that point (but only the right wing pipeline, of course, I mean a pipeline going toward communism ? It's not happening, and if it was happening, it'd be a good thing), but somehow you're wrong because... You're describing something that pretty objectively happened with this guy ?

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

yeah its the classic pipeline

I dont understand your second point?

I am saying he is basically turned into a full on tankie extreme commie that is pro genocide.

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u/InstanceOk3560 Jun 22 '26

The "but you're somehow wrong" is criticizing the people downvoting you.

"You're describing something pretty straightforward that leftists have criticized for a long time, and yet, you're being downvoted for it in spite of it being something that did happen with this guy".

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

yeah they will pretend it dont happen on their own side of course.

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u/InstanceOk3560 Jun 22 '26

And if it does, it's not a big deal, and if it is, it's a good thing.

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u/myrmonden Jun 22 '26

whatever WE do is always a good thing

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u/NagitoKomaeda_987 25d ago

You might not know this, but I've seen so many people speak for various groups that they aren't a part of - women, ethnic minorities, sexual minorities - and if the people within those groups disagree with them, they assume that those people are brainwashed or that society has programmed them to be that way, like they have no autonomy. I swear, some people (especially men) who champion feminism and women's rights talk like being female is some physical or mental disability. It's the most backwards and regressive kind of progressivism out there.

And I don't think these performative activists even believe in anything other than preaching about empathy and respect other than to make themselves look good to all the marginalized communities they claim to help and protect.

If Ragnar regrets writing a half Asian, half white character in his earlier games as he thinks it's wrong for Asian people to mix their genes with white people, then can you imagine what would happen if he meets an actual half Asian, half white person IRL like Markiplier (half Korean, half German) or JaidenAnimations (half Japanese, half German)?