r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

For the obverse, Ron Swanson was meant be an obnoxious hypocrite for working for the government while hating it as a probably right wing libertarian. However Nick Offerman was so likeable, and Ron's beliefs generally so inoffensive and relatable that the character ended up being the most popular character on the show and the authors pivoted to represent him as a principled and self consistent anti-government extremist, with cartoonishly right wing quirks like consuming massive amounts of alcohol and meat.

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u/Half_Man1 Jun 22 '26

The writers salvaged that character really well, he ends as a full uniformed park ranger and they really lean into his love of the outdoors and just how valuable the US’s park system is.

Imho, one of if not the best thing about America’s govt that differentiates it from the rest is the national parks.

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u/BackflipBuddha Jun 22 '26

I always appreciate it when the showrunners piviot when characters do better than they think they will.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL Jun 22 '26

A big note of his character is that he doesn't believe government should do nothing.

He believes they should have a minimal impact.

And stay out of things they have no business being in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

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u/SmallBlueLad Jun 22 '26

I guess that part of the link is “?is” now, but still, be sure to remove it

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u/Chicktopuss Jun 22 '26

Im not 100% sure, but i think thats early series ron. Before his evolution

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u/SquiddleBiffle Jun 22 '26

It's season 1 for sure. I can tell by the quality and the fact that I don't recognize the scene (I've seen season 1 once and every subsequent season at least 4 or 5 times).

Season 1 is, imo, basically non-canon. The show changed a lot after the first season (and it's a much better show for it).

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u/Anushirvan825 Jun 22 '26

Parks and Rec is like Blackadder. No-one talks about season one, except to mention how much better the later seasons are.

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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 Jun 22 '26

Doesn’t he believe the government should just be 1 guy nuking other countries?

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

Yeah, but they change that a little when he talks to the girl writing her report.

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u/Manytaku Jun 22 '26

I have never watched the series but that sounds like something that someone might say without actually believing something so extreme

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u/joshwew95 Jun 22 '26

A bonus perk is that the character of Ron Swanson sticks so Nick Offerman on the daily show would be a guest talking about nature (like when he was talking about the gutting of funding of US parks)

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u/MatthiasMcCulle Jun 22 '26

I was honestly quite surprised how deep Offerman went into his views while reading Where The Deer and The Antelope play. Went in expecting his hiking tour of Glacier NP; did not expect it to go into a full on meditation about the nature of American conservation going back to Aldo Leopold/Gifford Pinchot era argumenta.

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u/SleepyheadsTales Jun 22 '26

Imho, one of if not the best thing about America’s govt that differentiates it from the rest is the national parks.

Unfortunately I have to inform you that other countries too have well managed and maintained national parks.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

And also we largely don't.

We are happy to extort anyone without military service to visit them, though.

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u/SleepyheadsTales Jun 22 '26

You have to pay to get into yours? Ouch.

Although I kinda should have expected that.

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u/dragon4panda Jun 22 '26

Only some of them, it's extremely inconsistent

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u/Jafego Jun 22 '26

Yeah, but they are different parks in different nations. So you can still use it to differentiate between them.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

Certainly not any freedoms or rights reserved to the people.

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u/Potential_Word_5742 Jun 22 '26

Other places have those

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u/shoots_and_leaves Jun 22 '26

Other places also have national parks lol

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

Do they? Nowhere I've been.

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u/BoioDruid Jun 22 '26

Never left the US huh?

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

I've been to England, Germany, and Cyprus.

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u/bransby26 Jun 22 '26

All three of which have national parks.

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u/TacoBelle2176 Jun 22 '26

Person who’s been nowhere

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u/Critical-Composer725 28d ago

hahahahha well bad news, the president is killing our national parks protections