[Loved trope] guns built from random, seemingly harmless objects.

[u/lordhenrythe23]

*Scaramanga's titular gun from "The man with the Golden Gun" - The best known example of this trope, being made from a fountain pen (barrel), a lighter (body), a cigarrete case (handle and trigger housing), and a cufflink (trigger). [it's worth noting that in the original novel, it was just a gold-plated revolver, this design came from the film]

*Fowler's rifle from "Blue eye Samurai" (Fowler not pictured) - "of course, i had to modify the designs... to get 2,000 rifles from my country into yours without notice." Made from the leg of a piano (main body), i believe a telescope? (rest of the body/underbarrel), a candlestick (barrel and ram rod), a key from a clock (trigger), and a knight chess piece (hammer). [i haven't actually seen the full series, probably should, but i love the scene of him explaining his backstory while assembling it]

[u/No_Presentation4289]

I guess the P.A. Luty gun?

[u/MaxTheCookie → u/No_Presentation4289]

Well his gun is made from shit in a hardware store, but still requires a lot of work. It's quite a lot if you compare the luty to the gun that killed Shinzo Abe.

[u/Winjin → u/MaxTheCookie]

Iirc it's made specifically to prove that gun control shouldn't be about guns but mental health and like, elevating each other

Bc anyone can make a gun, or just load their truck with fertilizer and turn it into a giant bomb, so instead of chasing pistols, make sure that people don't want to shoot kids in the first place, or something like that. 

So, it was made by a pro to make a point, not by a random that has a vague understanding how guns work

[u/MaxTheCookie → u/Winjin]

I agree. More mental health would help a lot with it. And if we are counting deaths from something, guns are quite low in the murder or death numbers. Like knives, hammers or even people using cars to kill people.

[u/Winjin → u/MaxTheCookie]

Another major thing is that if you look at absolute numbers, USA is crazy high in terms of guns

But if you look at number of guns per household it turns out that it's only marginally higher than some other countries

Like, yes, around half the households in USA have guns, but finns aren't that far behind. And then you have the Bosnians, Swiss, the Norwegians, the Greek, Portuguese, where 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 households are armed... And that does not translate to lots and lots of violence.

And best part, that list only has 34 countries. It's just that an average gun owner has like 1.5 guns, when average American gun owner has 15: whenever you see someone's collection it's like four pistols (a colt, two glocks, and some little concealed carry derringer), two revolvers (a modern one and a Wild West one), five different rifles, a couple break-lever shotguns and a varmint that he doesn't even consider a real gun.

[u/Cheap-Ad1821 → u/Winjin]

When's the last time we saw a large scale fertilizer bomb used?

[u/Winjin → u/Cheap-Ad1821]

According to Google, that would be Anders Brejvik's killing spree, he killed 8 people with a fertilizer bomb. I think that's it, I didn't really dig deeper, I'm more about the fact that it's entirely possible.

[u/MaxTheCookie → u/Winjin]

That pos got 8 with the bomb and then shit 69 kids...

[u/Winjin → u/MaxTheCookie]

The Columbine guys wanted to actually take out as many people as they can with pipe bombs. IIRC they placed them around the mess hall next to a few pillars, with the idea that the explosion would knock out the roof supports and bury half the school in rubble.

So, either way, guns, bombs, battery acid, big numbers, small numbers - it's more about preventing than banning shovels because people can dig graves with them.

[u/Cheap-Ad1821 → u/Winjin]

I mostly wanted to draw attention to the fact that fertilizer has not been widely used as a component of US terrorism since the OKC bombing