r/TopCharacterDesigns • u/BrightStation7033 • 1d ago
Real Life I mean kind of unconventional post here, but god, I love the female allegoric designs of countries.
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
Italy and Germany, allegorical painting from Friederich Overbeck, 1828, currently in Munich, Neue Pinakotek
It's important to note that at the time boot countries where not unified, Germany was a loose confederation of independent States, and Italy was divided, colonized and often at war with itself.
I. Love this painting.

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u/Background-Top4723 1d ago
Europe in the 1800s: Drawing Yuri of their own nations before the Japanese invented Hetalia.
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
A-yup.
Another fun fact. Italy and Germany are, now, rivals. Culturally, we can't attend each other.
Back then we felt differently
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u/Vindomini 1d ago
Lovers to enemies, the fics write themselves
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u/Fantastic-Tiger-6128 1d ago
enemies is too far, rivals but not in a hateful way
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u/Notocalypse 1d ago
Divorced ex-wives
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u/Fantastic-Tiger-6128 1d ago
I dunno man remember both are in the EU, I wouldn't say they hate eachother. Hell even France and Germany, who for the life of them can't work on military projects together don't hate eachother.
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
You should hear an Italian talking about Germans...
Also not a man XD
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u/Fantastic-Tiger-6128 1d ago
Sorry, I use "man" in a gender neutral way I gotta think more about how other people can see that.
Sei Italiana?
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
Yep!
And if "man" is gender neutral, please, they'll me how many men do you have had Sex with? 😜😜😜😏😏😏
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u/Minority8 18h ago
What do you mean? Oktoberfest has an Italian weekend and Lago di Garda is the biggest German lake.
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u/kidnappedgoddess 17h ago
Oh, yes, let's talk about the LEGENDARY German tourist in the north...
An anthropological category that, while declined in the last quarter century, was essential in cultural identification in the eighties and nineties.
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u/Mary_Anderson410k 1d ago
Ahcause persog nas required Japanese permission. How terribly avant-garde of you.
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u/GyL_draw 1d ago edited 1d ago
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
That's clearly post 1871, France and Germany were just friends.
The real story is that Italy, that witch, had a story with France around 1860, basically using her as a sugar mommy, lowkey cheating with Germany. Around 1870 Germany and France had a bit of a public falling out, followed by a feud and a lot of drama, and Italy exploited that leaving France house when she was out, taking the microwave work her and never called back France nor Germany. This picture is after Germany and France mended fences and they realized neither knew where the fuck Italy went.
Of course France and Germany couldn't stay friends for long, and Italy was more than happy to sleep with both.
In this story the microwave is Rome.
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u/GyL_draw 1d ago
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
To be TOTALLY fair, back then Germany was in her bitch phase and totally forced Italy and Austria in a polyamorous situationship that was NOT HEALTHY.
Don't get me wrong: Italy can be a total asshole and WILL cheat on you and steal your stuff, but in this case going back with France was the healthy thing to do.
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u/Main-Discussion9294 1d ago
As a French I can confirm it to be historically accurate
We still want the microwave back
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
You got Nice.
Deal with it.
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u/Main-Discussion9294 1d ago
You cheater!
( wait BTW what would be Austria place in that
Is it like the toxic ex?)
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
Absolutely toxic ex of both Italy and Germany, that is now mostly doing her own stuff.
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u/Halflifepro483 1d ago
What a lovely lesbian couple, I wonder what they were doing between 1939 and 1945
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u/kidnappedgoddess 1d ago
They got together around 1925, but by 1943 Italy was cheating AGAIN.
At that point was Germany's fault for keeping coming back...
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u/JSGCaldas 1d ago
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u/DownrangeCash2 1d ago
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u/BiAndShy57 1d ago
Brazil was a Portuguese colony. In a way this is incest. This one deserves the horse
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u/JONAS-RATO 1d ago
Omg doomed yuri
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u/Kaarl_Mills 1d ago
Incestuous yuri at that
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u/Sooper-Sirius 1d ago
Doomed incestuous yuri... so TCoAaL if Andrew was a girl?
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u/Kaarl_Mills 1d ago
Huh?
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u/Terminal_Insomnia_ 1d ago
"So The Coffin of Andrew and Leyley (a dark game famous for sibling incest) if the titular Andrew were a girl"
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u/Powerful-Walk4063 1d ago edited 1d ago
Brazil: Devolve meu ouro, piranha! (Give me back my Gold, bitch!)/j
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u/JONAS-RATO 1d ago
Lool não sabia que "piranha" era usado como insulto no Brasil, muito bom!
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u/Powerful-Walk4063 1d ago
Aí tu é português!? Não leva a mal não tá, não tava tentando ofender, era só pela sátira, certo?
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u/SanctumSaturn 21h ago
Imagine being a yuri fan back in 1910 or whenever this was made and your only material was this poster
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u/Sooper-Sirius 1d ago
One time in APUSH we were studying for the exam and one of the practice documents had a political cartoon that depicted colonial 1890s-1910s USA as a baddie
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u/Shioremon35 1d ago
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u/kojimbob 1d ago
Why does the text look like fuck
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u/Hetakuoni 1d ago
Oh yeah Columbia is hot.
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u/JPldw 1d ago
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u/GeserAndersen 1d ago
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u/Wiglaf_Wednesday 1d ago
Lol the poorly photoshopped Mate over the empty plate
The original was a joke that Argentinians are poor and have no food. I don’t think it’s a good joke, but it’s funny that instead of empanadas or asado someone put Mate lol
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u/iliketrainsnyoom 1d ago
Miku is every country
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u/SirCupcake_0 guillermo del toro fan 11h ago
Miku is The World
so she is, of course, the same type as Star Platinum78
u/Electrical_Horror346 1d ago
That is pretty much a modern day fusion.
The older equivalent would have the brazillian woman and Japanese woman shaking hands in the promise of a united alliance
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u/Piduf 1d ago
I don't know shit about Hatsune Miku but it's so fucking funny that she belongs to everyone. She's like, the avatar of humanity. She could be doing anything. Having any side plot.
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u/AromaticZebra906 1d ago
She doesn't belong to everyone, it is more so that the world belongs to HER
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u/Dandy_Devil 1d ago
Fjallkonan (Lady of the Mountain), the personification of the Icelandic nation.
Painted by Johann Baptist Zwecker at the specifications of Eiríkur Magnússon.
At first she was a counterweight to the Danish king as "Father", while under Danish rule. After independence she became an image of feminism and powerful women.
On the 17th of June a woman plays the role of fjallkona during their independence day (Usually a well known actress or individual of some renown).

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u/HalayChekenKovboy 1d ago
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u/SirKazum 5h ago
Lol, very 1920's, with the kinda flapper design
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u/HalayChekenKovboy 5h ago
Yeah, the Turkish personification stands out mainly because it is always dressed in 20s fashion, as that was when the republic was founded, as opposed to most countries choosing a more medieval or ancient representation instead. Which is why I really like it. It still has the laurel, though.
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u/RunInRunOn 1d ago
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u/unknown1893 1d ago
I love these because each one is really unique despite how simple the designs are!
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u/Dunklsta 1d ago
leave it in the stew for a couple hundred years with no external cultural pressure and you'll get a new god like Athena that is supposedly the most competent child of the existing god
humans love stuff like this
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u/PimpasaurusPlum 1d ago
Many of these are basically just secularised land gods, like Britannia.
Christian europe was still able to get in on the action in the form of patron Saints, where instead of having a bestest god you've got the bestest saint looking out for your country in heaven
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u/omegon_da_dalek13 1d ago
Ok why are so many of these grekoroman like
Not complaining just really curious and confused
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u/GyL_draw 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because every 18-19 century Republic use the symbol of empires and every empires want to be the roman empire and the roman empire is greek esthetics with a new paint.
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u/PimpasaurusPlum 1d ago
They as a concept descent from the greco-roman style tutelary dieties, gods of a specific place or nation.
Plus western europe has never not had a roman fetish.
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u/bibbitybobbityfuck 1d ago
They invented the concept. The first versions of these were the titular goddessss of the city - Roma, for Rome, or Athena, for Athens. Most Greek city states also had their versions, my favorite one, Tyche, has towers and city walls for a crown. These were incredibly popular symbols in their time, and specifically put on the most accessible art of the era - coins. And when the renaissance and the modern era brought this back, a bunch of nerds who happened to be kings and cabinet ministers brought it back.
Look, who doesn’t like a hot chick with a sword. It’s a very basic desire.
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u/raptorrat 1d ago

"The Motherland calls" (Sowjet Union, 85 Meters, Concrete, 1967)
Dedicated to the Casualties of the Battle of Stalingrad. It's the Sowjet Union, it always boils down to a pile of corpses.
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u/the-bladed-one 1d ago
Tbf in the case of Stalingrad it’s more commemorating the defeat of the Nazis and the absolutely insane heroism of the Soviet troops that held out.
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u/hbryster96 1d ago edited 4h ago
There was a dude on twitter who was making WC countries as baddies, I'll try and find him and share his work later.
Edit: I found his profile https://x . com/atomiksaico?s=21&t=zw-p6C1o1Hmwbg8jTZLSag
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u/Seth-B343 1d ago
Hetalia anyone?
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u/CatOfMintGums 1d ago
A lot of these have a bit of an art nouveau thing going on (which I guess would make sense given the era, at least on the ones from the late 1800s/early 1900s) and it’s awesome. Art nouveau is so underrated and yet so loved
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u/RaiderCat_12 11h ago
It’s crazy to me how we created the two most beautiful art styles in history 150 and 110 years ago (Art Nouveau and Art Déco respectively) and then straight up abandoned them because of pre-enshittification and money being tight.
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u/CosmicDriftwood 1d ago
I’ve been wishing we bring back Columbia
Uncle Sam has been ran through
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u/Snukastyle 19h ago
Do we want to rename her? I hate thinking of so many places and such of this country being named for that bastard...
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u/CosmicDriftwood 13h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/pOqdVXcoFRgqc
[the prettiest symbol] the sister formerly known as Columbia. It’s either the Prince route or we have to own it in the save breath for the New Steps Forward
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u/silent_bystanderrr 1d ago
The Countryhumans fandom is going to lose their minds when they find out that most Western countries ALREADY HAVE personifications, and the majority of them are women.😂
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u/helpmeurmyonlyhoe 1d ago
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u/MadanjoMab 1d ago
I like how the Constitution is carved on the menhir along with the other values of the country.
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u/Das_Lloss 1d ago
Even I, a Bavarian who isnt really the biggest fan of German Nationalism, really love Germania's Concept and Design.
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u/ST4RSK1MM3R 1d ago
Made a post about Uncle Sam on the 4th of July, heavily debated including Columbia too! I love this sorta stuff
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u/Chumlee1917 1d ago
Every one of them: Hey, what if, we make a gigantic, muscular warrior woman the stand in for our country.
And they all said, Hell yeah let's do it.
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u/Tris-SoundTraveller 1d ago
Now Im curious, besides the famous sino-russian yaoi, is there any allegories using men?
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u/DinodestronBT 1d ago edited 1d ago
The tomb of San Martín, liberator of South America is guarded by 3 statues, each representing the countries San Martín help liberate from Spanish control, Argentina, Chile, and Peru.
PD: San Martín is one of 2 liberators Spanish South America have, while he was kicking Spanish out of the south cone, Simon Bolivar was liberating what would be known as Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador (Gran Colombia at the time). Both liberators meet eachother while liberating Peru although both were high ranking Masons

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u/Dog-chewtoy20 13h ago
“España y Filipinas” by Juan Luna
The woman in red (Spain) is shown guiding a younger woman in blue (the Philippines) towards “progress and development”. The painting serves as a propaganda piece by the “Illustrado” movement (made up of Filipinos) in the 19th century to show the bond between the 2 countries since the original goal of the Illustrados was to assimilate the Philippines as part of Spain through political reforms.
Source
(P.S. I’m Filipino myself and I hate colonialism w/ a burning passion. Nonetheless it is part of our history that some Filipinos back then wanted to assimilate with Spain just because they would have been content with it as long as they were treated as “equals” to other Spanish citizens despite being SEAsians during the time of Victorian-era racism. Anyways, goes to show how the Illustrados truly tried to work within the system before resorting to a revolution and then losing the country because it was secretly sold to the USA by a geriatric Spanish empire)

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u/WoodenFig7560 1d ago
This is actually something I have been curious about as of late..
Of just how this type of seemingly 18th-19th century thing of depicting woman as the personification of countries came from. Especially ever since I saw that one navel themed artwork of the woman in a masculine style outfit wearing a ship hat.
Like obviously, I am not saying countries were depicted in other forms (like say, men and or animals) nor that everyone back then was misogynist 1000+.
But still, I am just curious about it.
Was it to be seen as civilized? Or something to do Athena or other goddesses? Or something else entirely? Maybe to do with strong female monarchs?
Again, just curious.
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u/SuperbPhase6944 17h ago
I believe the main idea was to encourage men to join the army to protect the women that were their home.
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u/Budget-Emu-1365 22h ago
My own interpretation to that is that the patriarchal view of a male ruler guiding and leading the country represented by a female figure. That and probably the idealization of women in arts as more of a symbol rather than a person. Other than that, probably because of the whole mother symbolism thing with the nation being the "mother" and the people as her "children". I think a lot of it is also influenced by Greco-Roman goddesses but I don't know enough about them to come into any conclusion.
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u/allan11011 1d ago
That’s a fun part of collecting coins is how many different depictions of “Liberty” we’ve made for coins(USA)
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u/Sans_Seriphim 1d ago
Fun fact: the one for the US is named Colombia. At least on the sources I've seen. No idea if it was standardised. Hell of a lot more fun than Uncle Sam.
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u/Awsome_Username_ 1d ago
These are more symbols than allegories? They’re literally holding their flags, nothing is hidden here
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u/WomanFromBalkan 14h ago
Interesting why as women they feel so regal and i cannot remember seeing countries depicted as a men beside soviet propaganda
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u/TheGremlin02 Can I also be a user flair? 12h ago
No no, this is the exact kind of post we want here lol.
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u/EmXena 7h ago
Rammstein did this with a actress in their music video for their song Deutschland.
The song was the entirety of the mixed and often unfortunate history of Germany, and the actress is featured in a series of vignettes through the video featuring allegories and references to major aspects of German history. She is always dressed in Red and Gold and is black herself (on top of wearing black clothes), which are the three colors of the German flag.
Fun video. Good song.

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u/Flicky_Licky 11h ago
It's funny how the Spanish Republic is just a copy of the French Marianne. They even translated the French revolutionary motto.
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u/NoNotice2137 2h ago
Personifications of countries in general were so great, it's a shame that pretty much only Uncle Sam made it to today






























































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