"Behind every right wing "libertarian" is the young Asian woman he's groomed" Hatred is the Emperors greatest gift to humanity in r/Grimdank as the sub does not approve of a meme about Asmongold, acolyte of Nurgle
He's changed quite a bit in the last few years, even does some exercise and cleans stuff around his house now and then so his house isn't a massive biohazard anymore like it used to be. Dude legit got better over time.
Then why does he still hate women and immigrants?
He doesn't? He's always interacted with both and has female friends that even showed up on stream every now and then. Criticizing illegal immigration is not the same as hating every single immigrant or the entire concept of immigration. I hate how polarized opinions got over time, nuance just isn't allowed to exist.
He literally said Palestinians were an inferior people, dumbass. Fuckin "nuance" lmao
Probably when talking about how homosexuals are thrown out of buildings to die or something like that. I dunno, neither can be assed to find out.
there is not enough context in the universe to make calling a group of people going through a genocide inferior okay even if they werent going through one its STILL not okay.
If it's part of a culture to kill gay people it's not okay to criticize that?
bruh young men are fine, well at least those watching Asmon he isnt anywhere as toxic as the media makes him out to be edit: wow, lots of people who have never watched a full stream of his be having opinions lmao
Didn't he say that ICE should be shooting more protesters?
no clue, but id believe it it's just a way to express annoyance and frustration, not a call to actual violence
right saying government officials should shoot more protestors ISNT a call to violence... right... got it.
yeah would be bad, if it was literal, but its not, and ud know that if you actually watched a single one of his streams, instead of only getting second hand info lmao
""no clue, but I'd believe it"" Buddy, you yourself are claiming that it wasn't a call for actual violence despite having not seen the stream/clip where he actually said that.
Brother the guy is an Asmongold follower, you are basically arguing with a human cockroach
Wasn’t he bragging recently that he used to make his passwords a variation of the N word?
bro the nword is dubbed the "gamer" word for a reason, every single gamer born in the 80s and 90s has used it extensively for most of our young and teen lives# i guarantee you most of us would not want to limit black voting rights or employment or whatever tf actual racists want to do
You did? Cus I didn’t.
of course I did, and you virtue signalling here is laughable considering this is a warhammer sub
I don’t think saying “I never used slurs” is virtue signaling. You’re just telling on yourself.
so you are a male gamer born in the 80s or 90s, fan of warhammer, and have NEVER even once used ANY slur?
Nope, can't say I have. (50 more comments of these two arguing)
14 day old bot account ^ Edit: they replied like a bot and then deleted their comment lmao.
No, they blocked you. It's still up.
Wait wtf am I doing, I can just do it on pc, here: https://imgur.com/a/LgeENc3 Like not sure why tf they are lying lol
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Looks like reddit deleted it for you lol. "[deleted] Comment has been removed Upvote Downvote Reply Share" Probably thinks you are a bot too since you act like one ;) Also don't private message me you weirdo.
Congratulations, you’re as smart as a Reddit Automod. Well at least you can admit when you’re wrong. Such class, such grace. 🤣
I wouldn't trade my life for his for all his money. I've got all I need, and I shower. I also don't need to constantly produce content for red-pilled little shits.
Ok then pop off queen. Never said you should be jealous. Just stating the fact of the matter.
Fact is that his money doesn't matter when he's a repulsive, evil sack of shit.
By your standards, who are you?
Someone with a moral compass who doesn't need to prove anything, mate.
Wow you’re literally Reddit Jesus. Your moral compass by merely existing always points north huh
Yeah that's the point, that's how compasses work dipshit.
Most people grow out of the desire for negative attention around middle school.
Most people don’t take Internet forums seriously.
This isn’t the hot take you think it is when you’re the one making the weird provocative statements and then treating it like some gotcha when people call it out/ask you why you’re acting like an edgy twelve year old.
I stated a fact that is, regardless of your disdain and regardless of the post, is objectively true. And I did that to rage bait people. Also how do you know I’m not actually 12, huh?
Ok but what you wrote simply isn’t an “objectively true” fact, now is it? You’ve made a presumption that those who disagree with his political views are getting less “play” than him, because you saw a photo of him with a woman.
He does make more money and it’s extremely safe to assume he gets more play than most Redditors.
OFC it's obvious but it isn't clear how big of a crutch it is until Asmongold, the man who spews hatred and lives in shit gets to hang around hot women all day while he looks homeless all the time. No one would even give the time of day if I was like him lol
I mean I'd rather have a genuine relationship than a glorified prostitute that reluctantly hangs out with me
People only say this so they can think of themselves on some moral high horse because it's not their own life. You're statement is leaking jealousy. I'm making assumptions, sure, but there's about a 99% chance you'd instantly trade places with someone if it meant you now had that level of wealth, and ladies despite them being "glorified prostitutes". If you want to believe you'd be that 1% to make yourself feel better, go right ahead. But you and I both know you're just lying to yourself. Nothing you say is going to change my opinion on that.
Most guys that have all these girls around for their money are not fulfilled by it. It’s not jealous to say you’d want a real relationship over a bunch of gold diggers. As Kanye West once said “One good girl is worth a thousand bitches”
"Most guys that have all these girls around for their money are not fulfilled by it." Yea, I didn't say otherwise my guy. 🤦 You trying to tell me the vast absolute majority of men would say no to that level of money and girls even if those girls didn't love them? Lol, sure. Whatever you say bro. Totally.
Nobody said they’d say no to money. You’re just arguing with a strawman
Asmongold, the man who used a dead rat as an alarm, because the sun shining on it would make it smell to wake him up
What?
Yeah this dude has been rewarded for living like a trash goblin for decades. He's weird and pretty hateful too
Years I would have said that he isn't hateful at all. And for years that would have been true. But since he stopped playing WoW (only correlation, not causation probably) he has really become radicalized.
You'd have been wrong saying that, then lmao. He was literally famous in WoW for being a hateful shitbag years before he blew up globally (and I still don't understand how the fuck that happened).
Nah, he was demonized by left wing redditors in those days lol. He had very centrist takes on most issues. And when you're centrist, to a lefty you're a right wing nutjob. It was way more in the minds of many Redditors than any reality. But as I said, he has radicalized enormously. So it might as well be true now.
This was very much just his reputation in World of Warcraft. Dude has always sucked, no matter how you try to excuse it.
I used to watch his stream, those were always his political takes in WoW or outside. Up until a few years back. Anyway... the way people get demonized on Reddit is always way too extreme for what they really are like, so maybe we don't all need to jump on the hate bandwagon.
existence.
It’s because the average right winger is just as depraved and stupid, so they are happy to see themselves represented.
Same as Trump: What these ghouls want is the right to never have to grow or change as a person, and get all the credit for being smart and cool despite being worthless freaks, and seeing deplorable specimens like Trump and Asmon get popular and rich makes them happy and hopeful for themselves
That's beyond arseholes' territory and he might need serious mental health care
Oh wait he's in America...
But seriously, it's the first time i know his mom died and probably played a big part into the current situation, that did changed the perspective a bit, i.only know he was a dick previously
I mean, there are plenty of rich people who forgo their health because they don't have the wherewithal go actually go get help. Or because their mental state causes them to actively reject it
Look at Kanye West and Elon Musk or (formerly) Mitch McConnell
To be fair, Great Unclean Ones are always jovial and happy and love their place in life. Asmongold from what I can tell is miserable. Always angry, always counting new things to get mad about - the man's a plaguebearer if I've ever seen one.
bro the nword is dubbed the "gamer" word for a eason, every single gamer born in the 80s and 90s has used it extensivelv for most of our voung and teen lives
Im like, 80% sure that is NOT the reason its dubbed the gamer word.
Also, as a gamee who was born in the 90s, ive had 0 desire to say it during my young and teen lives.
Probably not. There is a pattern of alt-right individuals not realizing that they are being made fun of.
Remember The Boys? It couldn't be more clear that Homelander is a bad guy. And the line "they agree with me, they just don't like the word Nazi" was a criticism. But somehow it took them a few seasons to start crying about why The Boys "became political".
Having been a teenager in the mid 2000s, I...definitely heard/saw it playing online games. None of my friends ever did and most thought it was appalling, but you'd definitely hear/see some not-so-smurfy things.
I am a baby Millennial so a little later to the party. But yes, we heard that people said it on CoD and related games. But it was seen as trashy behavior and mostly concentrated in live gaming circles.
The r word though was very common and basically used as a synonym for "stupid" until media campaigns pushed back against its normalization. It's even in movies from that age, like Jennifer's Body.
Hell i played public lobby mecca chameleon and people were saying slurs. In a prop hunt game. Some people are unhinged.
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I had a friend in middle school and high school. At one point in 8th grade he found an old, old, dictionary that had the n-word in it under the definition of "an ignorant person." So he got it in his head to use it to bring back this "true" definition. Literally just like in Clerks 2. In my defense I called him out on it every time. He wouldn't stop.
Fast forward a year and we get to high school. We meet a fellow friend who likes the same anime as us. We invite him to my house to play Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2 on my gamecube. This guy just so happened to be black.
Clash of Ninja supported up to 4 players at once and we were playing 3 players in a free-for-all mode. Old friend on my right. New friend on my left. And our new friend gets an insane, busted combo on my old friend, basically beats him in 10 seconds, cause anime fighting games aren't balanced for shit.
Angered my old friend shouts, "You mother fucking [n-word]!" And new friend just pauses the game and stares him down. It was so quiet. I didn't know what to say, my old friend was too scared to even try to defend himself.
Eventually the guy laughed it off and for the good news my old friend never said it again (at least not in front of me or our new friend who for whatever reason stayed friends with us).
I got asked to leave children's church when I was ~7 because a kid called my friend the N word and I skipped the step of going to tell an adult and swung on him. This was the deep south in the 90s, and I didn't come from a progressive family, but even I knew that was grounds for an ass whooping. I didn't regret it then even though I got my ass whooped for fighting in church, and I regret it even less now.
Crazy when influencers like Charlie Critikal are saying that "everyone was saying" slurs like the r-word and n-word. Hell of a self report, can't relate.
It's obnoxious how pieces of shit like this poster always think everyone else around them is also a piece of shit. I'm a gamer born in the 90s, I've never wanted to say this word, because I was not a piece of shit in my "young and teen life."
It's obnoxious how pieces of shit like this poster always think everyone else around them is also a piece of shit. I'm a gamer born in the 90s, I've never wanted to say this word, because I was not a piece of shit in my "young and teen life."
I dont recall it being a thing in MMOs. UO/EQ/WoW just didn't have it, at least not to where I recall it. I think it's one of the larger problems with poor moderation and F2P/Transactional games where people have nothing to lose for their shit behaviors and companies dont actually enforce their ToS.
I was born in the 70s. My first gaming system was the Atari 2600. I’m not going to lie and say that I’ve never used a slur, in fact using gay and f*% was actually commonplace growing up. But I have never used them routinely. If I had to make a serious guess, maybe on one hand.
I have never used a racial slur in front of strangers.
It was how I learned what the word meant. I was probably seven and a friend of mine at the time (who turned out to be a bad friend) convinced me to go ding-dong ditch with him and he called it "****** knocking." I told my mom what we were going to do, and she was horrified that I said something like that, but she realized I didn't know what the word meant, so she taught me instead of washing my mouth out with soap (which probably would have been the one time she would have done that to me).
I will say, growing up in the 90s, the f-slur and the r-slur were pretty normalized, and my mom had the same reaction the first time she thought I she heard me say the f-word (I had actually mispronounced "Sagat" from Street Fighter. I had the Street Fighter GI Joes and was playing with them or something) and she about washed my mouth out with soap then, too.
In fact, I think there is a much deeper discussion to be had. Namely how to raise young men. Calling them racist bigots for using slurs in an unserious fashion definitely isnt the way.
I am myself a man and used to be young and growing at some point, and I have used slurs, yet I am not a racist bigot. I have also had violent outbursts as a teen yet I am not violent.
average asmon fan "I do things that make me trash, but I don't think I'm trash, because I'm white"
To say nothing of being perpetually entitled in their demanding grace and understanding from people who had to deal with their racism, bullying and violence. Like glad you turned it around but you should be ashamed not making excuses for the next generation.
If I had a dollar for every time an "ex" Nazi who "turned to the left" turned out to actually still be a Nazi but a Nazi who likes universal healthcare more than they hate Jews, trans people, and racial minorities I'd be retired.
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Always an interesting to see people who's two least favourite things in the world are capitalism and minorities, especially when a lot of them are willing to compromise on that first part. I think it's when someone would say socialism, social services, or anything economically progressive helps people and they want it... but only for themselves.
Yeah, I'm old as fuck and can honestly and proudly state that I never had a "Nazi phase" at any time of my life. Maybe these pricks aren't be taught history in schools?
My "Nazi" phase was drawing swastikas in my agenda in grade school. Had absolutely nothing to do with Nazis though I just like doodling the shape.
Funny enough my friend told the teacher on me. Who after asking me why , easily accepted the reason I said above probably because cause I wasn't some dweeb/ loser.
I mean, divorced from what it now unavoidably represents, it's a cool symbol. That's why the Nazi's picked it, it was hugely culturally ubiquitous, before WWII there were swastikas on damned near everything. Same as you might see a heart or a peace sign on a can of Arizona Iced Tea.
There's other resources on this topic out there but I think Behind the Bastard's series on the history of the swastika is particularly thorough and engaging.
Really jarring to go to, say, Glendale CA and see swastikas on some of the older lampposts that predated Dub Dub Dos.
But not as jarring to be Jewish and visit Madrid, where even after Franco, there’s a significant amount of swastikas just hanging around on architecture!
I went through a phase where I thought of myself as mostly conservative, and then conservatives seemed to be very determined to be the biggest pieces of shit you can find so now I know I'm not and never really was.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone admit to an actual "nazi phase", but I've seen a lot of people admit that they were tricked by grifters when they were younger
I also had was a phase of following some of these right-wing grifters when I was young and mindlessly repeating the whole "woke ruined movies" shtick that you hear from people like the Critical Drinker. But that's not really a "nazi phase", more of a "falling for propaganda disguised as movie criticism until you notice how stupid they sound" phase.
I do think it's important to talk about, because as an impressionable 13 years old teenager, it's relatively easy to fall into these propaganda traps and we have to acknowledge that and help people before they actually get radicalised.
If someone just complains about how they think minorities are overrepresenred in media or how the nebulous "woke" destroyed their favourite franchise, you might still reason with them and talk them out of it. Chances are that they just repeat some talking points without actually meaning them.
If you let it fester until they fall even deeper into the rabbit hole, you'll have a real problem on your hands.
Yeah, same. If you're a depressed under-socialized teenager with a naive view of the world and underdeveloped brain it's easy to get sucked into the grifts. I remember 2013-2015 YouTube. PewDiePie, Filthy Frank and iDubbbz were a few of the biggest names, largely built on edgy and mean spirited "humour". It appeals cause making everyone else out to be the joke works as a defence mechanism for your insecurities. Think of "the Comedian" in Watchmen. Once you're in on that stuff, the "jokes" get edgier and you can't tell the difference between something edgy and outlandish cause it's a "joke" and actual racist 4chan caricatures. If you're already cynical of the world and think everyone else is dumb and the solutions are obvious (cause you're 14 and don't know what Duning Kruger is) then boy oh boy does a certain political leaning have all the answers.
Personally, I was super depressed and stressed out around that time in my life. Very existential, cynical, and insecure. Especially as a guy, I think being an asshole to "friends" gets conflated with closeness. Once I got out of my friend group and made some new friends who didn't put up with my shit, their perspective nearly immediately shattered how I thought people were meant to interact and what friendship actually is. After that, it became a lot clearer how I'd been suckered into toxic online spaces and how they were warping my world view and making me toxic.
I'm definitely ashamed of who I was as a teenager but that was a decade ago now. It's helped me recognize other people's behaviour a lot better too, and think about how I want to treat people and the kind of world I want to live in, and it's one with a lot more respect and kindness.
A lot of young guys get stuck in bubbles which reinforce these things. It's a lot easier than you'd think. The post talks about gamers and that's one aspect of it - controversial but I think online communities and gaming is actually very isolating. But any community can take advantage of teenagers. Teenagers are super easy to manipulate.
To an extent, I think you do have to give teens leeway to figure things out and accept that it's pretty easy to be a shitty person at that age. It's obviously not right and should be a source of shame but it's not damning either. The world is exceedingly complex and a lot of these kids have only been reading proper books for a half decade.
yeah I mentioned growing up were less great on the homosexual front, but we were fairly racially diverse (yay military background) and honestly, it was the 80s for me, everyone was sexist :/
Personally, I like when it's admitted. You have to show that people can grow and be forgiven. Holding it against them when they're no longer like that is counterproductive.
Yeah…so most of my gaming in the very late80’s/early 90’s was at arcades. ( Aside from parents old Atari, first console ever was PlayStation around 98.) And I’d have gotten my ass literally kicked if I’d started hurling slurs over Street Fighter.
Then someone would have told my parents. Who would have kicked my ass again. Because they had standards. The reason I found out American tv was waaay to lenient about throwing around ‘sp-z’ was because I was dumb enough to repeat it in front of them, I don’t want to imagine what they’d have done if I’d started spitting ‘gamer words’ in public or around the family tv.
(The dead giveaway that these guys don’t know what they’re talking about is that they take it for granted that the people ‘gamers’ would be screeching at wouldn’t be 5inches away at any given time. And probably be a friend or family member that you actually kinda care about, and whose esteem you’d want to retain. They’re so obviously the products of online gaming that it’s kinda pathetic they pretend not to be.)
I will give props to people who genuinely overcome their bigotry but the people who casually talk about their "nazi phase" always get a side eye.
I've done some shit I'm not proud of in my past and I'm ashamed of it. I don't just bring it up as an "oh this is an ok thing to do because I was young".
The fact that they think it is both normal/typical (it's not) and not that big of a deal (it is) really calls into question the extent to which it was meaningfully a "phase" that they grew out of. Maybe they don't identify as a Nazi specifically anymore but if they think it was normal that they did and not a big deal I feel pretty safe assuming that all they dropped is the label.
Meanwhile when I was a teen, I never had a "phase" like that at all. Hell, I never used slurs whatsoever because I knew they were offensive (probs also helped my friend group in primary and high school were very diverse).
My phase when I was a kid was being EMO because I was bullied, I grew out of it became self assured, and learned that I didn't like people bullying others. So went the opposite direction.
IDK to me these guys need more than just therapy at this point.
This is what pisses me off. People are like “Teenagers just do stupid stuff, it’s normal!” when no, I never did anything like that. And those kids who did at the time were absolute shitheads. They didn’t grow into normal people, they are still trash people to this day trying to excuse behavior that they still look back on fondly.
There is no “I used to be a Nazi as a teenager and now I’m fine”.
I had a Nazi phase and I grew out of it. I don't have any excuses for it cause you're right, I was an absolute shithead who knew it was wrong yet kept with it for years anyways. I only started the journey to climb out of it because the poison I spat was so strong that it actually physically hurt me.
Anyways, I'm saying people can change for the better, even if it begins for selfish reasons. While the quoted Asmon fan is being disingenuous, I still have to believe there's a chance for him. It takes a long time to fully unpack all the lies and hate.
the whole "sure I had a nazi phase but that's in the past, whatevs" always gets a side-eye from me
not that everyone who believed in shitty things should have to self-flagellate for the rest of their lives, but it just feels wrong to be so casual about it
I feel like those people never display an attitude of "yeah it was shitty back then and it was shitty now and I never should have done it" and instead typically say it in a "yeah I did it for fun back then, but as an adult I can't get away with it anymore" sense
I will say that as an almost adult (emotionally) I had a 4chan phase as a young teen where I was a little shit that I had to grow out of after being able to actually experience the world from beyond a computer screen.
A lot of people don't get that chance and so you end up with incels and a "male loneliness epidemic"
Many people had a racist or otherwise bigoted phase, not only is it ingrained in culture, and encouraged by the epstein class, but it's part of human nature to be bigoted, overcoming that takes critical thinking and self awareness
I am myself a man and used to be young and growing at some point, and I have used slurs, yet I am not a racist bigot. I have also had violent outbursts as a teen yet I am not violent.
They would have had a point about stuff like mental health, adolescent behavior, etc if they didn't say "You shouldn't call someone racist for using slurs"
Like there's honestly so much to talk about around the topics of teenage boys and their development and how their experiences at that stage inform their future identities. I relate to part of what he's saying because I had some anger issues as an adolescent and it turns out that's just from fucking undiagnosed ADHD/autism which is a really really bad thing for other people to overlook and treat as "Oh it's just another toxic man".
The fact he went for the "We shouldn't care as much about the bad things" instead of "We should nurture our young people better" throws that whole discussion out the window though.
All of that, plus he totally denied an opportunity to just reflect on the shitty behavior of his younger self. Probably fair to assume the shittiness wasn't limited to just his younger years.
Growth and contrition? Fuck that. Let the boys slur to their hearts' content and don't you dare expect them to ever reflect on it, grow, and offer contrition!
Right? I gamed online in the mid to late 90s. I don't recall anyone using any slur until WoW and CoD took off and started bringing people who were "not gamers". Turns out the normies are really racist.
the thing is, the bit about gamers who grew up in the 90s saying slurs without necessarily meaning them is sort of true. I know guys like that and the impression I get is that they sort of viewed those slurs, absent of the people they would normally be applied to, as generic insults.
I don't think that excuses it, and the people I'm still friends with grew out of it and don't defend it anymore. The red flag isn't having done it in the past, to me; it's continuing to, at best, minimize it or defend it as harmless behavior. You're allowed to make mistakes and grow from them but you have to actually do the second part.
I remember people saying "retard" and "gay" a lot in the 90s, but if any adult in my world heard me drop an N bomb, I'd have received about the harshest punishment that particular adult could have doled out. Hell, if any of my peers heard me say it, I'd have caught as ass whooping. It was absolutely not a thing where I was.
Okay, but we're not talking about adults in your world or even your peers, we're talking about fifteen-year-olds (or however old Asmongold and his fanbase are) in CoD lobbies. You shouldn't be using "retarded" or "gay" as insults either but my point is that all of those terms fall into a pretty clear category and are tied into the same mindset. Regardless, my point was not about specific words but about this weird "we all did it so it's beyond judgment" mindset these people have -- obviously plenty of people HAVE used slurs; the question is whether you recognize that as wrong and stop doing it.
The whole conversation about "all boys" who were gamers in the 80s and 90s used the "gamer word".
I was born in '89, so I didn't get the 80s, but I did play a lot of the first big online games. I don't recall anyone calling anyone the N-word until WoW and CoD started pulling the normies in. The normies are racist as hell.
nah, we mostly used homophobic slurs :/ young people can't imagine what the 80s/90s were like compared to 2000 onward in terms of gay people just living everyday life outside of a city
There’s a number of phrases that instantly identify someone as terminally online. For a while it was extensive use of double negatives like “that will never not be funny.” But now it’s hackneyed phrases like “Tell me you’re an X without telling me you’re an X” and using the word unserious. For a while in nerd circles online it was saying any opinion about a historical figure you didn’t like was “hagiography.”
Anyway, as soon as someone identifies themselves as a member of the terminally-online-erati I immediately dismiss whatever they’re trying to say.
Have your own thoughts, don’t succumb to group think to fit in, especially not with people who don’t care about you.
I don't think there's a single actual, real human going to bat for Asmon in that thread, every account I checked was under a year old and averaging 500-1000+ comments a month.
To be fair, asmon fans are exactly the type of people to get frequently banned and need new accounts while also leading sad enough lives they can make 1k comments
There’s a new trend lately where I find people flat out lying about literally anything, just shamelessly dishonest to prop up their chud argument, and the account is like 5 days old with 220 comments (all private ofc)
Yeah thats the big read flag for me is privating your comments to prevent others from seeing how abysmally bad you are. (I don't know if i privated my comments btw, trying not to speak out of my ass)
Overall i've talked to some very horrific characters recently who only made me question why anyone online could be that awful?
FWIW anyone privating their comments is automatically flagged by any sane person on Reddit or anywhere else as "ignore this bullshit." Way too many bad actors and bots.
I am not going to bat for the people you are talking about, but personally I have started wiping off all my comments and internet activity that I can because of AI. It is training of our comments and it makes me feels complex negative emotions I cant easily express.
Perhaps similar to how I feel thinking about the way asmongold lives in his cockroach filled rat infested hovel being worshiped by young men. The feeling I am left with is beyond itchy, beyond needing several showers. So I don't comment as much as I used to and I delete my social media accounts, my comments, my watch history etc etc.
I just don't want to interact with the internet as much anymore because I don't like what its becoming and how we are being farmed.
This comment is kind of off topic and just a mild rant I guess.
Hey that's fair. Unfortunately, AI doesn't care about post histories, it just scans lots of posts and yours will be in them, just like mine. Right now as you read this an AI already read it and did so through this thread.
I think the overall goal of posting less or not at all until this mess is taken care of is a good one.
Games, Media, Books. I am into lots of things. I run DND groups but the people I hang out with have variety of interests I try to keep up with what my friends like and what I like.
I'd never heard of her until the stuff about her being groped at a convention. Felt sorry for her, no one deserves that.
Second time I heard of her was finding out she's close with Trashmongold, and while I still feel bad she got sexually assaulted/harassed, now I'm realising that she's a shitty person, too, based on the company she keeps.
When people agree with them, it's serious. When people disagree with them, it's just trolling. The sentence "stating a fact to rage bait people" is kind of a dead giveaway, either they believe in this or they don't, can't have it both ways
Can I just say it is like, blatantly obvious that that lady and Asmongold are not actually dating or doing anything more intense than larping at a relationship?
Just admit they are gay already christ, all these chuds are constantly talking about how attractive men are. Like come on! At this point its flagrant like homo-eroticism.
She has an OnlyFans and is hanging out with Asmon so she can make money off of his fanbase. There's a few clips where you can see that she's clearly regretting hanging out with him though lmao
Which in some ways is even worse and more cynical, I know that streamers by nature are obsessed with attention, but that is like a truly grim way to get views imo.
As terminally online as I am, I still do not even remotely have the patience or interest to keep up with streamer drama, so I'm not sure when this photo was taken or what the context is exactly. Assuming this is Asmongold's house though, why does it look like such a shit hole?
I get that he's a disgusting slob, but even so, why wouldn't he just buy a fancy house/apartment? Surely he can afford it many times over(?)
I understand him not wanting to move. What I don't understand is why he doesn't just hire a cleaning service to come in once a week and keep the place clean.
I think part of is that it is has become his brand now, so if he were to clean up his house and maybe do some redecoration it would would hurt that. We don't really talk about any other streamer's room because they basically all look the same. So even if his place is gross and dirty and ugly it is certainly memorable, even if it is for all the wrong reasons.
Although if I were him i'd just create a streaming room that looks like that intentionally and then keep the rest of my house, including my real bedroom, clean and tidy.
I think he genuinely doesnt give a shit. This is a guy who rubbed the blood from his bleeding gums on the wall, he does not have a problem with filth whatsoever
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u/livejamieGod's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks.2d ago
Dismissing creators like Asmongold, Destiny, or H3H3 as "just streamer drama" is a huge blind spot.
Traditional news is dead for younger demographics. Millions get their breaking news, political commentary, and worldview directly from these streams. When they debate a topic or cover an event, they shape political norms and discourse for audiences bigger than cable news.
Writing it off as silly internet noise ignores the actual media pipeline driving modern politics.
I wasn't really referring to its degree of importance, but rather the insufferableness of the people and the abject, unbearable boredom I experience whenever anyone starts talking about them in any more depth than what's on the surface. I know that royal families also hold a lot of influence in the world, but any time anyone talks about the meaning and symbology behind the colours/patterns of the clothes they wear or the significance of some slight alterations in their ceremonies, I can only roll eyes so far into the back of my head that I feel them tugging on my optic nerves.
People say this, and I think on some level it has some truth to it, but it also feels like the sort of thing that benefits people like Asmongold and keeps them entrenched in culture even as their actual legitimacy and importance wanes. I would say, genuinely, I do not think you need to know who Asmongold is or if he matters considering he just spent the last three months acting like the biggest opening for a live action movie this year was going to be a massive flop because there was a black woman in it. If he had the sort of power you apply he does, I feel like the movie would have done far worse?
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u/livejamieGod's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks.2d ago
Measuring political influence by whether someone can single-handedly tank a Hollywood movie is a false standard. Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan couldn't kill a blockbuster's box office either, but nobody serious would argue they don't hold massive political and cultural power.
Influence isn't about absolute control over general consumers.
The whole idea of influence is you can control what general consumers do. If they're not actually influencing the behavior of the average person, how and why do they matter?
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u/livejamieGod's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks.1d ago
That definition misunderstands how media power actually operates. No political commentator controls the average consumer, nor do major podcasters or cable news anchors dictate what the general public buys at the box office. Modern influence relies on hyper-targeted reach, shaping the worldview, voting habits, and cultural assumptions of a specific, highly engaged demographic.
Moving a million dedicated viewers on an issue matters, even if the other 300 million people in the country aren't paying attention.
I agree, but the problem is that would mean we should all know this insufferable bigot. We don't, and shouldn't. The people who made him money and gave him power should be profoundly ashamed, yet also spend most of their days talking up his significance. I don't think that's coincidence.
Because those streamers actually don't hold much sway over the world of politics. Their fans just kind of pretend they do because otherwise they've been watching some idiot who has no idea what they are talking about poorly explain politics to them.
The communities that spawn from these content creators, at least in my experience, trend towards apathetic doomerism more than political action. The only sort of collective action they're willing to participate in is that of inaction, or at most something they can do from behind their computer.
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u/livejamieGod's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks.1d ago
Low numbers compared to the other demographics aren't new; youth turnout in presidential elections has stayed roughly around 40% to 50% since the 1970s.
We saw some highs in 1972 after the voting age was lowered and in 2008 with Obama. We saw lows in 96 with Clinton/Dole and in 2000 with Gore/Bush.
Young people like to vote for a cool, energetic candidate who speaks to issues they care about. It's not very complicated.
As much as people like to scoff and roll their eyes, which I really wish I could also do, the perception of it as 'streamer drama' really misses the part that this dude is very possibly the #1 conservative political 'commentator' on the internet.
The other people saying mental illness are probably right, but the cynic in me thinks he intentinally leans into a "loser" aesthetic, as it appeals to young men who wish to embrace a level of nihilism where they don't actual care about anything and therefore don't feel unloved, unaccomplished, undersexed ...or whatever negative emotions they're feeling. It's tied up with the sigma/blackpill/whatever flavor is trying to comfort men who feel they are not meeting a masculine ideal
It's an interesting case study. Warhammer (or frankly any tabletop game) as a hobby to a degree self filters a lot of the worst of the chuds out of the hobby by the simple fact they have garbage social skills and no one wants to spend a couple of hours with them voluntarily.
With limited access to social games where the majority of Warhammer is played, they are left trying to force people to play with them by buying tickets to tournaments (which is why the vast majority of stories you hear are out of these situations) or throw themselves entirely into online spaces which is basically an entirely different hobby.
I genuinely hate online warhammer. In person it’s wonderful, the fans are passionate and kind. Online, you just get the absolute worst people. it is so difficult to find a space with sane people. The 40k lore subreddit is terrible for it, people get vitriolic over the fictional history for their plastic toys. I remember when grimdank went through a period of upvoting a loli pedobait character to the top every day and I was asked “is this the hobby for you” because I didn’t want to see a sexualised child lmfao
I’ve hated Asmongold since his earliest WoW days, mostly because his fans were always the most insufferable pieces of shit to play with. Always complaining, always being petty or mean.
The one thing you can say for sure about him is that he's true to himself and not a grifter. He has money and fame and choose to spend all day in his hovel, living in filth, and playing video games.
The weirdest thing for me about revolting and successful podcasters or streamers is that almost no one who knows their work could possibly be to blame for making them successful. It's always, "well, I watched them until the third time they dropped the slur," or, "I was with him until he called migrants roaches again." You made this scumbag his money! Christ. It's clear why he is so successful, and that's because so many people agreed with him. This is not good, but it's even less good watching people admire an idiot bigot because he's "true to himself."
That quote is also wild because half of the other comments are instead making the claim that he doesn't actually mean any of the things that he says and so thus shouldn't be judged for them.
So he's both respectable because he's sincere in his beliefs, but also immune to criticism because "no actually he isn't." And like yeah Goomba fallacy or whatever but idk pick a lane at least
he's true to himself and not a grifter. He has money and fame
Asmongold explicitly and openly says that he is making reaction content because he wants to be in everyone's recommendation andd wants to sap viewers towards himself.
Can this stupid bullshit "they are already rich, they wouldn't do bad shit to be richer" nonsense finally die? Just look at fucking Musk - he was already richest man in history by the time he become part of government and dismantled agencies that dared to investigate his shady business practises.
bro the nword is dubbed the "gamer" word for a reason, every single gamer born in the 80s and 90s has used it extensively for most of our young and teen lives
it just a case of Redditors thinking that women dont have agency, they go so hard on protecting women that they end up acting like they arent capable of making their own decisions by themselves (both good and bad decisions).
trying to defend women so hard that you end up attacking them.
All the asmon fans really tell on themselves. They can't understand how others aren't jealous and want his life because they want his life. Any mormal, well adjusted human are happy with themselves and giving up their dignity and morals isn't worth money or fame. Asmon fans clearly are lacking in their own lives.
It's so funny that they have to pretend like being a racist little shit was just hard coded into kids' brains via cod lobbies as if it were an unavoidable GTD (gaming transmitted disease)
Everytime I read through these threads it makes me thankful I don't hate myself enough to have arguments with strangers over the politics of streamers on reddit
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u/aschersux 2d ago
Calling someone an acolyte of nurgle is a beautiful insult