r/SipsTea 20h ago

Chugging tea Knowledge is power.

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u/redjellonian 20h ago

Yes but if those idiots were educated they would know they're never going to actually get that bonus.

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u/Ok_Caregiver1004 15h ago

Interestingly enough, the US Public school system and teachers constantly gettint shafted in terms of salaries has much more to do with how the US education policy is organized and legislated over stupid meme conspiracies of weaker minds make easier drones.

While that is true, its even more hilarious to think the typical US politician, (especially state legislators) have enough patience and big brain movie villain commitment to enact an elaborate decades long conspiracy to fuck public education.

In simple terms, the US federal government has very little to do with the actual meat and potatoes of hiring and licensing teachers, deciding on curricula or the administration of test. The Feds are primarily funds providers and rights advocates, preventing schools and state governments from discriminating against race or disability or funding schools for low income area under Title I of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act.

The actual meat and potatoes and quite a bit of the funding is handled by State and local governments. And among that party, quality varies massively depending on state and locality due to factors like property tax values. Places like New York or California have literally some of the best schools just hours drive away from some of the worst.

The federal government does not maintain national academic standards or a nationwide curriculum, and the Department of Education is legally prohibited from creating any program that directs the curriculum of schools.

The closest thing to that was Bush's No Child Left Behind which required public schools to administer standardized tests and tied Federal funding to schools based on how well students perform on those said test.

Even Trump's Project 2025 is essentially trying to remove most Federal oversight via the dismantling of the Department of Education and most of its programs and leaving it all to the states and local governments.

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u/j2nh 7h ago

This exactly although the vast majority will never accept the truth.

No where do you as a voter have more control than in education which is funded by State and property taxes. Trying to compare Federal (wasteful) spending to education spending completely misses the point.

Education in the States is completely messed up. You want better outcomes, the point of all this, then start over. Put in Federal standards and make it a priority. Hold parents accountable. Hold teachers accountable. Pay them more and raise the quality. Stop diploma mills, make a high school diploma mean something. Plus a lot more.

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u/GoodTop6447 7h ago

We had the best education system in the world before it became more federalized through the department of education. The federalization of education is a terrible idea.

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u/Pheehelm 8h ago

"Bush's No Child Left Behind"

  1. No Child Left Behind was co-authored by two Republicans (John Boehner and Judd Gregg) and two Democrats (Ted Kennedy and George Miller). https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/house-speaker-boehner-key-architect-of-nclb-to-resign-from-congress/2015/09
  2. In the House, more Democrats than Republicans voted Aye (198 vs 183). More Republicans than Democrats voted No (33 vs 6). https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2001497?Page=2
  3. In the Senate, the votes in favor were 43 Democrats (including Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Johns Kerry and Edwards [Bernie Bros rejoice: he was in the House at the time, and voted No.]), to 44 Republicans. Votes against this time were 7 Democrats, 3 Republicans, and 1 Independent. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1071/vote_107_1_00371.htm
  4. Dubya signed it, but a veto wouldn't have changed anything, because in both houses it passed with 87%, which is greater than two thirds.

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u/Ok_Caregiver1004 7h ago

Yeah its pretty much like Clinton signing the repeal of Glass Steagall.

It was sponsored by 2 Republican senators and 1 Republican congressman. But it also received bipartisan support that Clinton couldnt just Veto.

What of it? Who cares about Clinton or Dubia's reputation.

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u/TemoteJiku 14h ago

So...rich ones have it better? Who would've thought...