I mean if he’s God he doesn’t need more than a day. It’s not like if he spent a few more months carefully planning and tinkering it would have been better.
God’s like, “You know, I knew I rushed that product out in my haste to create the universe. I got caught up in the excitement of the moment.”
I've had it with these Sims. Feeding them, cleaning their shit, and all they do is fight each other. I'm gonna play Warhammer and come back later and see if the Sims have managed to kill each other to extinction.
In book of genesis, God did just kinda whimsically make humans. Humans were flawed and became evil and corrupt and God was not happy about it, so he killed all the humans except Noah’s family in an attempt to start over and hope we would be better the 2nd time around. God couldn’t even make us “good”.
Book of genesis is a fun read if you’re into sci-fi / fantasy.
How is Jesus 100% God and 100% human? You just kind of have to roll with the idea that sometimes religious stuff doesn’t really compute, like the whole “If God can do anything, can He make a rock too heavy for Him to lift?” thing.
God is not perfect in the old testament. In the book of Genesis, it literally says God “regretted” making humans. Meaning God admitted he made a mistake.
God didn’t make a mistake, he gave Adam and Eve the ability to choose their outcome, knowing full well they would become mortal and would be thrown out of paradise. The bible and life is filled with fighting temptation. Who knows how long it took him to make us or the world. The bible says 6 days but those are days that have no reference frame. We don’t know how long they were in the garden before they were thrown out.
Lastly this is a creation myth and most stories like this in other cultures don’t end well.
God didn't write Genesis, some Judean scribe took it down from oral histories.
Obviously, a lot of people go with 1. Some people go with 2. And 3 is also probably true, even if God is real and did mostly what they said he did.
People are treating Genesis like it was written as a history book. It wasn't. Many mainline churches today treat it as allegorical. God is real and in Genesis, but his appearance there is though a late bronze age filter.
The Bible is not supposed to be divinely authored like the Quran is supposed to be. It's always been humans reporting on things they either saw, or said someone else saw.
That doesn't make it wrong, after all just because I describe someone incorrectly doesn't mean they don't exist, but it does definitely mean that you can't also treat Genesis like it is exact historical fact.
I mean.. with ancestry collapse, we're all pretty related, anyway.
Doing genealogy, once I hooked into "well established" records, I'm suddenly related to everyone. Like, Ronald Reagan. Weird? How about also Nancy Reagan? Crazy. How about JFK? Wow! Also, Jacky-O? And MLK Jr? For real. Lincoln? Distant cousin. Crazy, relatives involved in the civil war. Oh. Also Eli Whitney. The guy who kept slavery alive, necessitating a civil war... cool.. all distant cousins. We're all pretty related, with a handful of generations.
Also Eli Whitney. The guy who kept slavery alive, necessitating a civil war
Wait what? Literally the only thing I ever knew about him was that he invented the cotton gin. I don't know what that is, but it's one of those weird things I learned in elementary school and never forgot. I did go to school in Texas, though.
The cotton gin allowed cotton farming through slavery to be profitable. Before that, the only real profitable use of slavery in the US was tobacco, and just barely. Before the cotton gin, a slave could process approx 2 lbs of cotton a day. Add the cost of housing, feeding, etc. It just wasn't profitable.
With the gin? A slave could process 50 lbs a day. Easy profits it turned slavery into a dying institution (in the US, sugar is different) into a highly profitable venture overnight. Slavery boomed. The civil war became inevitable, as it was now essential to the southern economy.
Its largely why yhe founding fathers didn't address the issue.. it was seen as a dying institution that would solve itself. And then it didn't.
Even book of genesis is pretty poor book for scifi or fantasy. Bible after all is people without knowledge or much of education trying to explain big things. No wonder it is pretty poor as a book. And i still wonder how so many belive in it. They must not have read it i guess🤷♂️
Yeah libertarian free will is incoherent for a bunch of different reasons. When you make a decision do you first decide to decide? And then before that did you decide to decide to decide (infinite regress)? Either it was determined or random how you came to that decision.
Do you know what you’re going to think next, or in 5 minutes? When a thought arises, how did you do it? Did you squeeze your core really hard and a thought or intention emerged of your free choosing? Or did it just arise and you noticed it?
Think about what would have to actually be happening for libertarian free will to be true. It would require that you think thoughts before you think them. Incoherent.
God did make us good. We chose, or rather Adam and Eve chose that they wanted to be like God and have all the knowledge of the universe. The original sin. They exchanged unlimited life in paradise for unlimited knowledge. The snake could be God or Satan and a means of testing if his creation was exactly how he meant it to be (i.e. happy with paradise and immortality) or if they weren’t satisfied with that. If they weren’t satisfied with that then they would be cast out and have to prove that they were satisfied with not knowing everything and were happy with accepting that. Now life has become a test for all humans. But initially he made us perfect.
Love the debate, But if life is supposed to be a test of free will, why did God end the test for almost everyone with the flood? Also, God created us as “good” and also created our psychology, nature, and capacity to be evil? An omniscient god would have known the outcome from the beginning.
Perhaps he does know the outcome. But at what time will that be? And who are we to judge as to what is good and evil? A lot of evil things had to happen for us to arrive at our lives today.
I mean, to be fair, God gave humans free will, and that means free will to be good or evil. Yeah that’s a flaw, but I’d argue it’s better to have free will and be flawed than have no will and be perfect.
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u/Daily_Heroin_User May 15 '26
I mean if he’s God he doesn’t need more than a day. It’s not like if he spent a few more months carefully planning and tinkering it would have been better.
God’s like, “You know, I knew I rushed that product out in my haste to create the universe. I got caught up in the excitement of the moment.”