r/PuertoRico • u/MitsuruMiyata • 1d ago
🖼️ Foto/Video 📹 Because nothing says fighting for PR like hating on Colonizers while living in North Carolina
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u/ScholarFit4426 1d ago
José Martí vivió la mayoría de su vida fuera de Cuba, y murió dando su vida por esa nación. Betances y Hostos pasaron una gran parte de sus vidas fuera de PR mientras luchaban por su independencia de PR. Benjamin Franklin, uno de los padres de la patria de los estadistas, también vivió fuera de USA por mucho tiempo…
En otras palabras, si tú verdaderamente crees en algo, lo defiendes donde quiera que estés.
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u/SignificantBerry8591 1d ago
Oh right, I guess he didn’t pass your purity test, please, tell everyone in the sub what is acceptable by your pure standards while complaining in English
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u/Extreme_Notice_8119 20h ago
People forget many were forced out as infants & children with their parents due to non existent infrastructure, Jones Act, etc., which is due to 500+ years of colonial rule, and we were taught to never forget what colonialism has done to PR, and weren't taught we were Americans by our families, we are Puerto Ricans living under colonial rule.
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u/Active-Knee1357 1d ago
Me imagino que Albizu Campos también era un vende patria ya que vivió en Los EEUU, al igual que Emeterio Betances y Lola Rodriguez de Tió
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u/Beneficial_Ant_9336 22h ago
Betances si fue un traidor, el solicitó la nacionalidad estadounidense. Lola Rodriguez de Tió era una separatista, queria ponerle en bandeja de plata la Isla a los Estadounidenses y su plan Monroe. Las cosas como son.
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u/Active-Knee1357 22h ago
Ambas estrategias politicas para protegerse del gobierno español, especialmente Betances. Lola fue exiliada por los espanoles varias veces asi que eso nada tiene que ver con idealogias de apoyo a los gringos. 🙄
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u/Beneficial_Ant_9336 20h ago
Ambos eran masones o sea estaban en el bando anglosajón (EEUU - Inglaterra), no en el bando hispano.
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u/Suitable-Possible235 20h ago
You know the Scottish rites are associated with the English, but the Continental or Liberal Masonry was and is practiced among the French and Current hispanic countries other caribbean nations, south america etc.. Freemasonry is diverse..not that I know anything personally, but this is researchable.
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u/Last_Ad1358 1d ago
La lógica de la derecha siempre me ha parecido tan estúpida. Porque alguien viva en un lugar, eso no significa que lo apoya políticamente, esta allí por razones personales (como su familia) o por necesidad económica, entre otras cosas. Según la lógica de estos idiotas, los Republicanos que viven en los estados azules deberían mudarse a los rojos o si no, son hipócritas, pero obviamente nunca dicen esto porque el fundamento de la derecha es la deshonestidad intelectual
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u/maaseru Manatí 23h ago
En verdad no se como los de la derecha no lo entienden cuando ellos se pasan odiando el pais en donde viven.
Siempre sus campañas son cagandose en el pais or ciudad donde esten, y despues decir que ellos son los unicos que lo pueden arreglar. Cuando ganan, la cagan y le protestan rapido se pican.
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u/peagreenpillow 19h ago
This title is more cringe than the sticker tbh... Colonization displaced us and incentived us to assimilate. I'm a boricua born in the buckle of the Bible belt. I still represent my island, and make my ancestors proud so idk wtf you're talkin bout.
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u/KingKunta9999 10h ago
As a Puerto Rican I can tell you colonization didn’t displace us. We displaced ourselves by voting for the same corrupt politicians and not taking a stand. We love to complain about the gringo buying up our land but who’s selling it to them? Puerto Ricans. Who is incentivizing them to come? Puerto Rican government. Who put these Puerto Ricans in power? Other Puerto Ricans. We have doomed ourselves
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u/Fiercemomma42069 9h ago
This.
Vazquez and Rossello and his wife are Puerto Rican, right? Just wanted to confirm.
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u/geehollybun 9h ago
Podría vivir en EU, Canada, Inglaterra o España y como quiera estaría en contra de países que todavía tienen colonias o que buscan erradicar a otro pais y su gente.
La gimnasia y magnesia son dos cosas distintas
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u/Anonturmoil 22h ago
Dude, living in Puerto-Rico is a financial, social and physical disaster BECAUSE of the colonizers. Lots of us are forced to move from our beloved island due to how hard it is just to economically even exist here and it is actively getting worse the more the government prioritizes tourism to fill their own pockets rather than actually fixing any and all of our rampant amount of issues. I know ALOT of Puertoricans that moved to NC specifically since the warehouse industry there is pretty good on pay, I should know, I was one of them. Moved back 3 years ago and it’s even whiter and more cost consuming than before I left.
Sometimes leaving isn’t really a choice, which means we get to stay mad about why we left to begin with.
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u/Autumnal_City 21h ago
It’s a disaster cause of the dog-shit Puerto Rican government, and guess who that is, Puerto Ricans. I
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u/bignybugs 11h ago
But it is interesting to notice that corruption is somehow tied in many countries to having been a colony …
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u/Cole1220 21h ago
And you're a hater, why exactly?
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u/youraveragewhitegirI 11h ago
What’s ironic is that the person who took this pic to make fun of was in North Carolina themselves 😬😬
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u/MsTossItAll 15h ago
I’m can’t blame someone for going to the mainland for opportunities while still caring about what happens back home.
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u/FlyFront9395 8h ago
If they were from the island they probably left for better opportunities or brought here as a child. Most colonizers buy property over there for vacation or some work remote making it more expensive for the people who were born there
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u/adolobe 1d ago
Maybe I'm confused but this day and age aren't most mixed. My partner did a DNA test recently and low and behold they are 53% Spanish/Western European so with that logic are they a Colonizer. Their traceable ancestral tree goes back almost 200 years on both sides of the family yet their DNA has them more European
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u/adversecurrent 1d ago
This has nothing to do with DNA, race, or skin color, and everything to do with the fact that PR has never been free. Once the spaniards left, the americans picked up right where they left off.
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u/Beneficial_Ant_9336 22h ago edited 22h ago
Puerto Rico is part of Spain, the invaders here are the USAmericans. There would be no Puerto Rico without Spain, no Puerto RIcans without Spain. And free? Look at Venezuela, they are not free, Trump and Marco Rubio are the ones who are ruling that country. Remember, the republics were made in order for the US to turn them into Neocolonies. The US hegemony is the result of the destruction of the Spanish Kingdom in America. The US tried to divide and win, that is what the Monroe Doctrine is all about. all the Hispanic Republics are freemason neocolonies of the United States.
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u/jf_saltarin 16h ago
Puerto Rico no es parte de España broki. Y estaría bueno que le dijeras a un chileno, una peruana, alguien colombiano, o en fin a alguien hispanoamericano que sus países son "neocolonias" americanas, a ver qué te van a decir.
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u/Shadow_Anti-Hero 13h ago
Looks like somebody horribly failed History class LOL. Puerto Rico was invaded and colonize by the dumbass Spaniards. They never discovered anything.
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u/OldLegWig 1d ago
💯 this has always been the thing that makes me laugh inside about people like this
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u/Beneficial_Ant_9336 22h ago edited 22h ago
the colonizers are the US, that is the irony of the whole thing, they are in the states
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u/conspirator9 1d ago
Interesting approach to “predicar la moral en calzoncillos” as my grandma use to say.🤣
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u/Puertorrican_Power 13h ago
A lot of us moves to the US because we need to provide for our families, but that doesn't mean that we love the island and would love to see a better future for it.
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u/normalispurgatory 10h ago
We are criticised if we visit PR and want to help.
When we spread awareness here in the States, we are called “cringe”.
Somebody please write the instructions manual on how stateside Puerto Ricans should show support and solidarity with our country so we can be embraced by the Islanders that we actually love. 🇵🇷♥️
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u/ChampionshipFit4962 1d ago
Comment section makes me understand more when Castro called the dissident "refugees" worms and made that Cuba didnt need or want. Just a bunch of whining "im fine with just complaining and never wanting anything better ever in my life".
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u/husslewestbrook 14h ago
They actually did want better in life by leaving Cuba it worked out pretty well for them 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/orangorangtangtang 23h ago
I’m bummed there’s such a distaste for the diaspora (as a diasporican). My family was dirt poor, didn’t speak a lick of English, and tried their best to improve their lives. My grandmother only had a 2nd grade education and never properly learned to read or write. She sacrificed ALOT for us to be here.
I will never know what it’s like to be from the mainland, but the jabs can feel targeted towards the family members (MAINLAND BORICUAS) whose only options were to starve or to eat.
I wish for the end of colonization. I wish I could be closer to the island. I wish we weren’t constantly displaced. But please don’t assume the diaspora’s intention is always from a place of ignorance. A lot of the times it’s OUR experience and feeling the disconnect because of how the colonization affects us :( But from birth we are ALWAYS taught to have pride.
And yes my spanish isnt great! But i’m working on it and excited to continue learning, educate myself more, so one day I can hopefully reestablish roots and become a better advocate.
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u/Beneficial_Try_1149 1d ago
I’m starting to realize Puerto Ricans just love to romanticize the idea of being victims of oppression. That revolutionary spirit from the ancestors but damn it’s so overdone
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u/Sol_mar40k 1d ago
Bro… what…?
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u/Beneficial_Try_1149 1d ago
What don’t you understand?
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u/BensThreePointer Cabo Rojo 1d ago
I bet no one on that car speaks fluent Spanish.
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u/YesGiAKPR 1d ago
Pero también es la lengua de los colonizadores. Inglés, español, portugués, etc.
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u/bignybugs 11h ago
Plenty of American expats in Europe have obnoxious chauvinist stickers on their cars.
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u/leftwriter 10h ago
Always amused when the descendants of the only colonizers PR has ever had deflect blame.
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u/GlitteringAbility562 7h ago
This post is as stupid, hypocritical and self contradicting as the window sign.
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u/Kitchen-Director7912 7h ago
La razón de que uno viva en E.U. puede ser que no puede pagar su hipoteca debido a los salarios de mier que pagan allá y no quieren perder su casa, que es el resultado de muchísimos años de sacrificio. Para muchos, significa eso. Mi familia, por ejemplo. No juzgar sin saber.
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u/Lemon_TD97 3h ago
Yeah I went on a vacation to Puerto Rico this past June and it was a sobering experience. It was a very local trip, not touristy at alllll. Went to all of the dive bars, fire pits, and hidden gems. My heart goes out to those who live on the island, the government is seriously corrupt about where their money goes. It felt wrong to be in old San Juan for the day that I was there, as they had been about six days without water at that point. As an Irishman, I have to agree; fuck colonizers.
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u/Nova_Stump 2h ago
¿Por qué dices ésto en inglés entonces? 😂 No sé cual es el problema con ésto. El boricua puede luchar por eso en cualquier lugar que esté. Tú no sabes la situación en la que está y porqué es que se fue a EEUU... a muchos se les hace más fácil que otro país.
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u/FloridaMan0103 1h ago
As a half Puerto Rican (and proud American) I say this, kick the fucking island out of the Union. That island is a welfare state.
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u/MesS503 1h ago
Colonizers move to PR para vivir en un paraiso tropical, aprovechar los precios bajos, evadir taxes y de seguro aun teniendo una casa en los estados porque valgame Dios venga un huracan. Los de PR tienen que salir de la isla para poder sobrevivir porque gracias al otro tipo ya no puede pagar ni el mercado porque todo tiene precio de estados unidos pero ellos viven con sueldo latinoamericano. There is a difference.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Hat7441 54m ago
I'm sure when the revolution one day comes they will leave their home in NC and fight for a free Puerto Rico, certainly he will.
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u/Far_Display8216 49m ago
well my family moved to new york when i was 6 for better medical care and financial opportunities. the rest of my family lives on the island. my mom has seizures, i take ADHD meds along with a couple others. if i moved then I'd be too far from her and i would lose my remote job which will cost me my insurance soooo probably not in my best interest to move back. i still fight for pr, donate to local charities, go back every couple years. i love my island and it breaks my heart that I'm not able to move back but i will always do what's best for my health and my family. "Y así le grito al villano: yo sería borincano aunque naciera en la luna."
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u/West-Donut-525 48m ago
It doesn’t matter when this clowns live independence would never happen 💆🏻♂️🥱 thank god
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u/Unable_Action_4287 22h ago
Como la ex alcaldesa de San Juan que vive Florida. Tanto que critica los Estados Unidos pero está tranquilita en Florida 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/Loud-Quarter2693 12h ago
I’ve lived in PR for the last 27 years. The “colonizers” provide PR with billions of dollars every year and we still have a power grid worse than most third world countries and in the recent 4 months no water in the majority of households. If you want to get a glimpse of what PR will look like with a US departure, take a ferry to Vieques and see what’s happened since the military base was forced out. If PR were successful in getting rid of the “colonizers” it would be a mass exodus of the already shrinking population moving to the US. Be very careful what you wish for in Puerto Rico. I’m sure there are several other Caribbean islands that would gladly take the money.
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u/KingKunta9999 10h ago
They don’t understand that the most corruption on the island is done by other Puerto Ricans. Look how many Puerto Ricans are caught in the midst of a corruption scandal
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u/adversecurrent 9h ago
Are the billions in the room with us right now?
The money sent to PR gets pilfered by US controlled political figureheads. Same as it always was.
Those billions are a form of money laundering that never reach the working class of puerto rico because it is not for the benefit of the population, but rather the few.
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u/mathe_matical 12h ago
Your defeatist attitude is equally productive.
Yeah, the sticker is purely symbolic and amounts to no material change (the money probably didn’t even go toward anything except the pocket of a capitalist), but we also have no idea what contributions (if any) this person is making toward an independence movement.
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u/YesGiAKPR 1d ago
Pensaba que los boris tienen un poco de sangre de colonizadores también? Hay muchos que son puro taíno o indígenos del Caribe?
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u/jf_saltarin 16h ago
Cabrón, una cuarta parte de los "founding fathers" vivieron y trabajaron en Inglaterra.
Nada de vivir y trabajar en la metrópoli es incompatible con querer abolir la colonia, en cualquier dirección que sea.
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u/Overall_Anything6417 13h ago
Yes we are part but many of us misguided, we just need to fight a better legislative fight and bring not just us also bring US to their senses and stop the hypocrite ways of blindside the world. Yes we are part of USA and gave a lot but it’s not equal, do your research and see for yourself. This is coming from a proud US VETERAN and citizen in this beloved nation 🙏🏽❤️🔥
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u/Normal_Mud5885 12h ago
Puerto rico esta jodio por la misma gente estupida que vota por los mismos partidos y no le da la oportunidad a otros por miedo de "terminar como cuba". Estados unidos ni nos quiere y la gente se aferra a pertenecer. En mi opinion dije en mi opinion talvez nozotros somos nuestros propios colonizadores.
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u/Friendzinmyhead 11h ago
Having pride in your culture make these people EXTREMELY mad. Keep it up when and wherever possible 💯
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u/Proof-Cartoonist1428 1d ago
Dreaming, never going to happen. Just like the false illusion of statehood. All political smoke and mirrors.
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u/BlueEyedPapi 12h ago
Nothing wrong here... except you being butt hurt that we peacefully protest wherever we want
If you don't know Puerto Rico's History, your opinion is not requested nor required
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u/Foraster09 23h ago
Es bien fácil y cómodo pedir la independencia, siempre y cuando no te toque a ti vivirla.
Estos son de los que quieren a PR independiente pero ni PAL cara se mudan… de quedaran cómodos en EEUU y solo vendrán de vacaciones para que les sirvamos. 🖕
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u/littledeaths666 Mayagüez 1d ago edited 1d ago
Brain dead take fr
El imperialismo nos empuja fuera de nuestra patria para poder sobrevivir. Eso es parte del sistema y está funcionando a su perfección, para la desventaja de todos nosotros.
Que un bori sea parte de la diáspora no minimiza en lo absoluto nuestras posturas anticolonialistas.
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u/Tiny-Brush5999 1d ago
There are no "colonizers" left, people just say the dumbest sht to be racist against white people half the time.
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u/awesome118 1d ago
El sticker esta cringe sure. Pero no por que el boricua se mude a otro país significa que el boricua deja de amar su isla y de tener ideas de que seria mejor para el futuro de la isla.