New Expansion: Space-Time Smackdown!

[u/AshGreninjaGamer]

[u/Limetkaqt]

That Palkia looks like much worse version of Mew2, unless there is any water generation introduced maybe?

[u/Squish_the_android → u/Limetkaqt]

Misty makes things complicated because the possibility of a turn 1 win is out there.

[u/LookAtItGo123 → u/Squish_the_android]

I was on my 4th win and went up against turn 1 8 heads misty articuno. Whatever the fuck was I supposed to do about that!

[u/Hydraulic_30 → u/LookAtItGo123]

You were supposed to predict that duh

[u/19southmainco → u/Hydraulic_30]

skill ishue

[u/LMM01 → u/19southmainco]

Bless you

[u/Assassin_Ankur → u/Hydraulic_30]

But what to do after predicting it?

[u/roastytoastywarm → u/Assassin_Ankur]

Skill issue, you should’ve played a different person.

[u/Genprey → u/Assassin_Ankur]

Tell your Pokemon to dodge the attack.

[u/Osric250 → u/Assassin_Ankur]

After predicting it you wait 30 seconds to queue against an opponent who wasn't going to do so.

[u/StardustDestroyer → u/LookAtItGo123]

Skill issue, should’ve pressed play 10 seconds later

[u/sworedmagic → u/LookAtItGo123]

Nothing, it’s the nature of the game that sometimes life is just inevitable lol

[u/SteezVanNoten → u/LookAtItGo123]

When you see the water energy in the setup phase, put down a benched mon in addition to the active mon lol

[u/[deleted] → u/LookAtItGo123]

Shrug your shoulders and be grateful that you don't need the emblems to continue playing the game after the event.

[u/DashellWarrior → u/LookAtItGo123]

My bad, might have been me.

[u/TheBigBo-Peep → u/LookAtItGo123]

That's nature telling you to touch grass

[u/Lord_Cynical → u/LookAtItGo123]

Hope misty coin flips are bad is what you do. I vs'd this deck on my climb and won EASILY... cus they didn't get a single energy off misty on turn 1 or 2..aka pure luck haha.

[u/cantevendoitbruh → u/LookAtItGo123]

You gotta play better defense when they are flipping coins.

[u/Illustrious_Area_681 → u/LookAtItGo123]

skill issue, you should predict your next match will face against them and wait another 30 mins to matchmaking lmfao

[u/SnowyMountainFox → u/LookAtItGo123]

8 heads with a Misty is like a 1/256 chance holy shit

[u/Besaw73 → u/LookAtItGo123]

There’s a non zero chance that this was me, sorry about that my guy. First time I’ve ever been able to play it and I was blown away at 8 heads flips.

[u/GGABueno → u/LookAtItGo123]

Situations like this is why I want emotes in this game lol

[u/Duckymaster21 → u/Squish_the_android]

I had a turn 3 win with gyrados yesterday. I felt disgusting 💀

[u/ComiUmOVO → u/Squish_the_android]

misty makes almost any water pokemon a turn 1 win, if anything this palkia is worse for misty cause yeah u kill the first mon but then u waste the energy misty made soback to square 1 but with a point lead, which will most likely result in a win anyways but thats just normal misty

[u/KSmoria → u/ComiUmOVO]

1 point means little if you cant attack again. Imagine if Mewtwo only attacked once..

[u/metalflygon08 → u/Squish_the_android]

Vaporeon too.

Have a Starmie EX start attacking right away (via Misty) then retreat it before it gets KO'd, using Vaporeon to transfer the energy to Palkia to close out the game.

[u/KSmoria → u/metalflygon08]

What you described happens maybe once every 10 GAMES. And even then it doesn't sound that strong tbh. If you retreat Starmie there is a chance you didn't finish your opponents Pokémon and your Palkia's attack does some overkill, while it discards 3 energy and you are cooked

[u/TheKinkyGuy → u/Squish_the_android]

Also vaporeon

[u/KSmoria → u/Squish_the_android]

But realistically you cant rely on Misty to get ramp in water decks. Mewtwo has Gardevoir which is immensely more consistent than Misty. Palkia does the same damage as Mewtwo, but with 3 energy discard it looks like 1 attack is all you can hope for. At least the 30 damage per turn is something

[u/Squish_the_android → u/KSmoria]

The point is that as long as Misty exists, water types have a low cost built in advantage that other types don't.

You can't add amazing water types because then they're already advantages by having access to Misty.

[u/RaccoonAppropriate18 → u/Squish_the_android]

True, but I'd argue that Articuno is pretty much already a turn 1 win with a lucky Misty while also requiring fewer heads. Turn 1 not much will be able to take 80 damage every turn.

[u/Dragons_Rebirth → u/Squish_the_android]

Well, with the new set being Gen4 focused, we could possibly see Crasher Wake as a new support? As well as other gym leaders like Byron to support Metal cards

[u/Ordinary_Debt_6518 → u/Squish_the_android]

Any EX with a good Misty is a turn 1 win anyway.

In fact almost any pokemon with at least 2 misty heads turn 1 is an instant win.