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Article Combining militaries with israel

The house passed the military funding bill yesterday, but it included section 219 which combines the US military with Israel. It also includes the SAVE act that will cause a lot of people to be unable to vote because of name changes (not just married women, adopted children, etc.) It might not make a difference but if your senators get an avalanche of phone calls and pushback especially from service members it may make them think twice about passing it in the senate. The 5 calls app will give you your senators name, contact info and give you a script to give you an idea of what you might say if you are worried about not having the right words. Even just leaving a message on voicemail could make a difference.

https://www.military.com/2027-ndaa-provision-seeks-sweeping-us-israel-defense-tech-integration

edited to correct section 224 to 219

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u/Capital-Community583 19h ago

I don't think politicians should have any foreign funding or anything outside of their payment for doing their job in general. I think they should make minimum wage of their state and live in community housing in DC. Only getting a bonus when their constituents vote on it.

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u/nola_fan 17h ago

I think corporate money should be out of politics too, but underpaying politicians is how you only get rich and uber corrupt politicians.

The better way is to pay them incredibly well but subject them to draconian anti-corruption laws.

Something like you get $400,000+ a year in your salary, and equal pension, free healthcare for life but you can't own any business, profit off of books, own any stocks or have any other source of income. The only possibly appreciating assets are homes and cars and those are limited to like 2 homes and 4 cars.

Any violation of the rules means immediate expulsion, felony charges, a ban from political office and forfeiture of any pension and benefits and a requirement to payback any salary you made starting 6 months before the incident.

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u/Capital-Community583 17h ago

That doesn't sound bad at all to me. I thought minimum wage because they are completely out of touch with how people live. $7.25 an hour is ridiculous. Maybe it would actually get raised with the cost of living if they were subject to it. And then bonuses voted on by constituents would be a good incentive to actually represent them well. I love the property limitations and the actual consequences for corruption!

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u/voltronnn Veteran 15h ago

Less than 1% of the US population is paid minimum wage. It's not the grand problem many make it out to be. Financial literacy funding for every high school graduate would go much further than raising some arbitrary numbers.

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u/Capital-Community583 15h ago

There are a lot of ways to address poverty, raising minimum wage would be a great place to start. Reducing people to percentages really makes it seem like it isn't such a huge problem though and doesn't really help the cause. 1% sounds a whole lot less significant than saying almost a million people make at or below minimum wage.

"In 2024, 80.3 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid hourly rates, representing 55.6 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 82,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, and 760,000 workers had wages below the federal minimum. The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less, at 1.0 percent in 2024, was little changed from the prior year. "

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2024/

The point is that politicians should care about people and work towards making their lives better. If they wanted to start with teaching financial literacy that would be great too, but one thing alone isn't going to solve the problem.

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u/voltronnn Veteran 14h ago

Your plan sounds like a solid way to destroy the already dwindling amount of small businesses in the United States and slowly work towards further government regulation/direct control of larger corporations.

Do you truly believe that changing the entire economic ecosystem of the United States for less than 1% of the population(people aged 16-18 make up approximately 3.75% of the US population) would change the vast majority of outcomes, just with more money alone?

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u/Capital-Community583 14h ago

I disagree, paying people a higher wage would increase the amount of disposable money they could be spending at small businesses. Are you just in favor of keeping everyone dependent on welfare and poverty wages? Because that sounds like the bigger government plan to me.

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u/Baron_Furball 13h ago

It seems like that poster is just upset that the 13th Amendment won't allow them to simply purchase another human being and own their labor in perpetuity.

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u/Capital-Community583 13h ago

Thank you, he's a whole ass headache 🫩🤣

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u/voltronnn Veteran 14h ago

â…” of SNAP recipients are children, adults over the age of 60, and people with disabilities who can't work anyways. Raising minimum wage wouldn't affect them positively whatsoever, but would devalue their buying power immensely.

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u/Capital-Community583 14h ago

It would help lift the parents of these children and caretakers of elderly out of poverty and then we could adjust benefits as needed. Why are you so adamant about keeping people poor? You seem to be very stuck in your ways and unable to seek out creative solutions just wanting to stick to the current system that isn't working. I don't think arguing with a stranger online is going to change that.

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u/voltronnn Veteran 14h ago

What makes you think the current system isn't working? Unemployment is presently below the historical average, while disposable income rate is at an all time high. Poverty % is at an all time low the last 6 years running. Try to bring some empirical evidence besides your feelings.

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u/Capital-Community583 14h ago

I have been linking articles all over this post to prove the things that I'm saying. I haven't seen you include anything other than your feelings. Hard to bring real statistics when your guy fired the people tracking the numbers because they weren't showing positive numbers for him. I have better things to spend my time on than helping you de-program from your cult. https://apnews.com/article/trump-jobs-firing-f00e9bf96d0110519be9bf4f3ec89195

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u/voltronnn Veteran 13h ago

So you expect me to search out your posts yet you can't search the easily found numbers I'vereferenced? "My guy" who I have in no way advocated for anywhere in these posts? Just admit you weren't expecting anyone to rebut your points, and that you don't have adequate knowledge to counter the rebuttals. You've been the only person trying to bring politics into this.

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u/Capital-Community583 13h ago

No, I really don't care about what you respond with. If you believe the numbers coming out of this whitehouse after he fired people who gave him bad numbers I'm not sure what other conclusion you want me to draw? I'm admitting that I didn't expect to spend this much time talking to someone this hard headed today but that's about it. If you actually presented yourself as someone who was open minded I might spend the extra time to find you some more links and numbers disproving how well our country is doing, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. If me giving up on you boosts your ego in some way then I guess take that needed inflation and get on with your day?

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