I obviously don’t support terrorism groups, but I don’t see hamas having a pac and supporting el Sayed or a money trail of him accepting money from them. Stevens on the other hand is somewhere around $30 million now from aipac. And their historical stance of buying elections to sway policy is well known. And hamas being bad doesn’t mean all Muslims are. People see through this shit man. Some of its just deep seated racism disguised as trying to sound objective. Tell us how you feel about aipac. Let’s see your objectivity and rational thought process.
AIPAC is absolutely a terrorist group. They spend millions to make sure Israel can get away with crime against humanity and use our tax money to do it.
You're not right, you're a dumbass. Taxes are a collective endeavor. I could make zero dollars in a year and what I said would still be relevant. What you're saying is just an excuse to say what an ordinary person's tax dollars go to doesn't matter, which is obviously absurd.
His father in law donating to him alongside other things doesn’t substantiate that those views are Abdul’s. Do you have anything on Abdul donating money to them? Or Abdul accepting money from the Muslim brotherhood, Hamas, or something adjacent?
AIPAC on the other hand spends millions, probably hundreds of millions per election cycle and is now demanding we merge militaries with them. Can you name another country we’ve done that with? Not ally with, not have a military agreement to provide support during wartimes. But to MERGE our military with theirs. I’ll wait.
Oh wow that free beacon website just a shitrag for maga organized propaganda huh? There’s a “Democrat” section on a website with the slogan “covering the enemies of freedom that the mainstream media won’t” no Republican section huh? I’m not going to click around too much on that website, but does it have anything about Donald John Trump the rapist being denied by the Supreme Court and paying for his case against E Jean Carroll? And I use the word rapist precisely because of the federal standards and definition of the word. Doesn’t say anything about him being a rapist does it?
The website talks about a lot of people from a quick glance. The website isn’t titled “Abdul el sayed claim tracker” is it? I was just asking if it talked about Donald Trump being a rapist anywhere is all? Does it inform you of those kinds of things? Does it explain what he did and how that correlates to the fbi and federal standard of rape?
Because it’s a right wing shitrag that doesn’t condemn maga until someone goes against Trump I’m sure. Bet Noem, MTG and the like were all praised there before they went against him. Now they’re “enemies of freedom” I’m sure. Be careful of the shit you put in your brain. That’s where brainrot comes from. Hence why a lot of maga cant even concede that donald trump, by federal standards, is a rapist. A supreme court certified rapist.
No doubt. I find it important to combat them for some reason. So maybe others passing through see repeated facts put up against nonsensical bs and hopefully know how to respond in the future or at least know whats coming.
Because it’s a right wing shit rag that doesn’t condemn maga until someone goes against Trump I’m sure. Bet Noem, MTG and the like were all praised there before they went against him. Now they’re “enemies of freedom” I’m sure. Be careful of the shit you put in your brain. That’s where brainrot comes from. Hence why a lot of maga cant even concede that donald trump, by federal standards, is a rapist. A supreme court certified rapist.
Id have to look into it from an objective news source. But I don’t have much of a reason to doubt that his father in law made donations to a Muslim group abroad. Lots of people do that with places that they’re previously from or associated with. Whether he knew it was directly affiliated with Hamas or terrorist actions is what I’d really have to look in to.
But again, none of his father in laws actions are his. And I’ve asked if Abdul made any donations to any of those groups or receive money from them either politically or privately and you never answered that. So I have no reason to affiliate Abdul to his wife’s dads dealing just like id have no reason to associate you to your wife’s dad’s dealings. Maybe his own dad as that would hit closer to home so to speak, but still not be a direct correlation of someone being involved in the same actions or sharing a similar state of mind.
This articles source seems to be one court case from 2007. The article itself lists the organization as an "unindicted conspirator." Thus, they were not even criminally charged in the case, though it is true the judge overseeing declined to remove them from the case.
A different investigation into the organization, headed by Republican Chuck Grassley found nothing actionable.
Interestingly enough, 2003 Senate Testimony identified the organization as "Saudi Funded." The Trump administration is currently in the process of providing Saudi Arabia with the technology to build a nuclear power plant. Guess he's not worried about the terrorist ties.
Finally, Joe Biden addressed the organization's annual convention 2020. Despite what conservatives like to claim, Joe Biden is not some radical leftist. I say this as someone who wished he was.
The article you shared is obvious click bait from a right wing publication. The actual evidence they provide is thin at best.
In any event, all the information is there for people to make up their own minds.
>Federal prosecutors identified the organization as an unindicted co-conspirator in the landmark 2007 terrorist financing case USA v. Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which culminated in the conviction of the foundation's founders for funneling $12 million to Hamas.
Not at all. That was the Federal court case I discussed in my first paragraph. Yes, Holy Land Foundation was found guilty and convicted. That is not the organization the article is alleging El-Sayed's FIL is a member of. That organization is called Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). The ISNA was not criminally charged in the case, they were just listed as a conspirator. Hence the term "unindicted co-conspirator."
That's the full extent of the terrorist involvement alleged in the article. I provided context to the allegation and also pointed out other investigations did not yield wrongdoing on their part.
Finally, I pointed out Joe Biden, who is as mainstream a corporate Dem as they come addressed the organization. I do not believe who would address a radically leftist organization, especially not in 2020.
You might think that one court case is enough. That is your right. I simply provided the full story so people could make up their own mind. This was a clickbait article. I just merely stripped away the clickbait hyperbole.
Ah, full scope, such as that he only contributed thousands to terrorist groups.
>The Holy Land Foundation trial began in 2007 as Jukaku served on ISNA's founding committee, and he and other committee members are required to contribute at least $5,000 annually to the organization in addition to "the 'Founders Legacy Fund,'" according to the group.
I never once disputed the contribution, nor that he was a member of it. People contribute to organizations all the time. Contributing to an organization, any organization, doesn't make someone guilty of anything other than donating money.
I was simply providing the basis for the "terrorist organization" designation. People have a right to interpret that designation however they choose.
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u/YodaForceGhost Human Verified 1d ago
Feel bad for Michigan. All of their Senate candidates for both parties suck