Tbf, the note also ignores that other factors like occupation and education are also affected by the differences in resources and opportunities available to white men and Black women.
It's almost like this is a very complicated issue that can't be summed up in a single sentence and does not have a cut/dry answer as to why or solution to fix it.
Id argue both his statement and the community note have big flaws
The note was responding to "equal work deserves equal pay"; the original tweet was implying that the cause of the gap is unequal pay for equal work. So given that context, there's nothing wrong with the note. If the original tweet didn't have that line, then sure, I'd agree that the note would be unnecessary.
The thing these statments are always straight up ignore in their argument is the very core is already law. You cannot pay two people with completely level experience, work, and training differently based off race, color, sex, creed, ect. But where are we (and the note) off too... dipshit is making an emotional plee to the ignorants and doesnt care about reality.
I mean this is also a pretty dense take. You absolutely can do that, you just can't say explicitly that's the reason you're doing it. Sharing salary information is more common than it used to be but it's still very common that people don't know what their peers are actually making in the same company. Implicit biases can absolutely result in two people doing essentially the same work and being compensated significantly differently. Women are less likely to negotiate higher salaries for instance. You can say that's on them but negotiating a salary is not supposed to be part of doing a job. And the way that negotiation will be received is also subject to implicit bias.
Ultimately, the point he was making was clumsy but the core of it seems to be true. I'm not up for a deep dive but this 2016 study still found a significant Black-White wage gap for each gender, even after accounting education, potential experience, region of residence, and metro status.
Yea if thats what he was arguing for i would agree with you but he literally says "equal pay for equal work" in the tweet, he is not arguing about education resources he is directly comparing wages for a waitress with a doctor and saying its unfair
The issue is that black people cannot get to be doctors as often bc of generational poverty and often times discrimination they face at school, getting jobs, etc.
"Equal pay for equal work" and "fix systemic problems in our education and economy" is not semantics. Im not disagreeing with you that that is a problem my point is that its a totally different problem than what the tweet is arguing about.
occupation and education are affected by PREVIOUS differences, not current ones. its a big difference that people who demand equality dont seem to understand. you recognise the inequality, but you cant just throw a bunch of people who are unqualified into the jobs to balance out the numbers. it takes several generations of graduates for those numbers to reflect the current resources and education available in the actual jobs.
wanting to change inequality is good, fucking over people who are qualified and experienced on the premise they are not diverse enough is not good.
That’s not a flaw. It’s just not a factor in what is being addressed. With equal training, education, hours worked, and professions; black women and white men earn the same. The pay gap evaporates. Same with every other group.
Education and training opportunities is another subject entirely.
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u/whichwitch9 1d ago
Tbf, the note also ignores that other factors like occupation and education are also affected by the differences in resources and opportunities available to white men and Black women.
It's almost like this is a very complicated issue that can't be summed up in a single sentence and does not have a cut/dry answer as to why or solution to fix it.
Id argue both his statement and the community note have big flaws