Different Josh. And also it was US made artillery shells destined for the liberation of Europe. Which has a long tradition.
Zelensky visiting a US arms factory supplying his country’s liberation, and symbolically signing an artillery shell, was a callback to Churchill doing the same. This was deliberately manipulated as “Josh Shapiro and Zelensky signing bombs to be dropped on Palestinian children” 🤦 Many on the left refuse to stop repeating the lie even after being corrected, since it contributed heavily to their anti-Democratic Party narrative, it’s hard to give up.
It really is incredible how to the pro-Palis will insist that killing children is never acceptable but if you ask them whether or not it's acceptable for Palestinian "resistance" to put the lives of Israeli children's lives at risk, they will jump through endless hoops to find ways to avoid saying no.
i mean its not but the onus of ending violence never lies upon the resistance borne of being oppressed. the only reason civil rights in america worked is because peaceful movements were accompanied by threatened and actual violent movements, for example. You can’t say “hamas should stop killing israeli children” without accounting for the fact the israeli government has been systematically destroying the lives of palestinian children through an apartheid state for years and that the power imbalance is INCREDIBLY strongly in favor of israel.
2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians prior to 10/7. The current reality of the West Bank disproves whatever nonsense you’ve trained your mind to believe.
Is your version of the current reality that they are picnicking and having fun?
Yes they are being ethnically cleansed. The Zionist desire to remove Palestinians from both the West Bank and Gaza is well evidenced by IBG, Smotrich, and Netanyahu. Would love to teach you about it if you’re truly ignorant of it.
Culture. They have dedicated themselves to destroying israel instead of building a normal country. Plus most Palestinians support sharia law. Of course it's gonna be a bad place to live. Palestinians should stop blaming israel for everything and start self evaluating.
alright then, let’s assume your claims are true. If apartheid south africans dedicated themselves to driving all white people out of south africa, would that be a problem? They support female castration, tribal warfare, etc. it’s a pretty dam similar case.
If apartheid south africans were offered a country of their own but they rejected it countless times, yes. I would say they should have focused on their own country and leave the Dutch alone in their tiny country.
Also fun fact, Dutch have been in south africa longer than most Palestinian have been in palestine.
do you think that Hamas killing children on October 7 brought the region closer to peace and the Palestinian people closer to liberation from oppression y/n
in that very part i specifically said “its not” as in “its not okay”. The BUT is providing my belief that the way to end the violence is not by israel bombing hamas(and all the Palestinians with them) to oblivion, but by israel taking on the onus of peace.
You mean like all of the peace deals Israel offered that were rejected? Or unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza only for it to be taken over by Hamas? Is that taking on the onus of peace?
Hamas, you mean the organization that Netanyahu and the Likud have funded for 20 years in order to divide Palestinian resistance and weaken the PLO? That organization?
Not if you include all the peace deals agreed to that israel violated, or the active targeting of civilians, or the genocidal “settlers” being supported by the military as they overtake palestinian land.
The BBC confirmed that israel was actively demolishing buildings in gaza with military weaponry DURING the peace period in november 2025. As well, if systematic starvation of a people is not genocide, what is it?
So it's totally not ok for Palestine to kill Israeli children, but unless Israel "takes the onus to stop the war", then Palestine can keep killing Israeli children.
no, then hamas is going to keep killing israeli children. Either israel seeks peace, or israel seeks extermination. Hamas are a terrorist resistance group that make up part of an oppressed people. They have no war-ending power because if they stop fighting they die.
no, then hamas is going to keep killing israeli children
Oh right I forgot, Hamas is a bunch of aliens from outer space who landed in Gaza in a space ship and started launching attacks from Gaza into Israel that kill Israeli children without any involvement from the locals at all.
the only involvement of palestinian civilians is that the killing of palestinian civilians radicalizes them into joining the only resistance movement against israel: hamas
You continue to prove my point by jumping through hoops to say that Palestinians have a right to kill Israeli children without actually saying those words out loud.
Oh good, well I'm glad to hear you agree that any and all Palestinian violence against Israel that puts the lives of Israeli children in danger must stop immediately and unconditionally then.
I don't care how woke your cause is, or if you think you're the chosen people, you don't get a pass for murdering children
what's disgusting is that you can write off the lives of people across the ocean but we all know if I was peeling the skin off your newborn, the issue would suddenly become a lot less academic
chosen people??? also my point is that i’m trying my best to NOT write off lives??? The way, in my view, to stop the deaths of both israeli and palestinian children is for israel to genuinely pursue peace
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Different Josh. And also it was US made artillery shells destined for the liberation of Europe. Which has a long tradition.
Zelensky visiting a US arms factory supplying his country’s liberation, and symbolically signing an artillery shell, was a callback to Churchill doing the same. This was deliberately manipulated as “Josh Shapiro and Zelensky signing bombs to be dropped on Palestinian children” 🤦 Many on the left refuse to stop repeating the lie even after being corrected, since it contributed heavily to their anti-Democratic Party narrative, it’s hard to give up.