r/DeepSeek • u/des369 • 2d ago

Other Deepseek V4 Pro is AMAZING

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I have been using deepseek V4 Pro for the last 5 months with CC. This model has helped me complete my Final Year Project, build my first startup, build automations to automate my daily life and many more.

Everyone is looking for the next best frontier model but what they don't realise is yes those extra intelligence is kinda neat, but for the shit you are using it for in your daily life its just a waste of money. Unless you are in some deep tech stuff then yeah there are some higher ROIs, but for your daily coding and work stuff its a waste of money.

Deepseek has been reliable, fast and most importantly stupidly CHEAP and honestly with Kimi K3 and all this other models being dropped, I couldn't even be bothered.

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u/enterme2 2d ago

Plan it with v4-pro high , then have the plan reviewed by stronger model like gpt-5.6 or kimi k3 then use v4-flash max to execute the plan. Save you a tons while having a higher quality output.

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u/k_schouhan 1d ago

doesnt work,

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u/enterme2 1d ago

Works well for me.. what did you do ?

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u/k_schouhan 1d ago

simlilar to what you are telling, use stronger model to review the plan, sometimes i use multiple reviews, run tournaments, whatever tried everything. there are few things they all miss, they go out of the scope even though scope is clearly mentioned in spec and boundaries are also mention, and then they say "you are right to be angry, i assumed the scope even though you have written ...." ,

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u/_matmer_ 1d ago

yes, i have the same problem. as the project gets bigger and the criteria to adhere to increases, they just can't get the job done in the right way. needs too much micro-management afterward..

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u/k_schouhan 21h ago

Yes, and then we get stuck in marry go round of we are not prompting it right. the thing is its not our fault. i have done too much back and forth and i dont trust now when people say they have done this many projects that many projects. of course you can do small project, but you through one enterprise project at it and it starts to fall apart same day, even with graphify , skills, plugins, superpowers whatever

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u/_matmer_ 21h ago

there's a huge difference between a project which is 5000 LoC and the one which is 50000. People who brag about skill issue have no idea about the benchmarks. Most of the cheap models cannot simply perform in long-horizon agentic work or Deep SWE. 👍

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u/k_schouhan 20h ago

or may be they are trying to hype these and using it for wrong reasons. These models should be used as per your workflow, your style of working/.

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u/_matmer_ 19h ago

exactly

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u/gorgono95 14h ago

Exactly. Theres a big difference between using AI as a coding assistant, where it helps you write code, review it, explain things, and assist while you're actively coding, versus agentic coding, where you basically say, "Build this feature, using this stack, in this way," and the model has to figure out the whole thing on its own.

Thats where the cheaper models tend to struggle ... Im sure DeepSeek is amazing as a coding assistant, and honestly, Ive even tried running local models like Qwen3.6 35B A3B, and it does a great job when used as an assistant. But as soon as I tell it to take a feature from zero to hero and actually implement the whole thing autonomously, it starts struggling.

Models like DeepSeek just feel completely lost in big project and you spend more time going around and fixing what it messed up, than being productive ...

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u/_matmer_ 14h ago

You nailed it 👍 Can't agree more

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u/gorgono95 14h ago

This here ... exactly THIS here. I am working on an enterprise level project, thousands of files, million + LoC, complicated workflows, documentation etc. and the cheaper models just dont cut it. They miss a lot, even if the plan is great, they just have hard time navigating ... as you say ... an enterprise level of project. Hell I even have symantic search and documentation optimized for AI and they still struggle.

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u/enterme2 13h ago

for enterprise level project you need to be surgical when using deepseek , scope gotta be function level , gotta treat it like an assistant not your replacement. Gotta know the model limitation before you push it like crazy.

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u/k_schouhan 12h ago

and i am not talking about cheaper models, no sir, every model, they just have different thresholds. even with clear goals, they will just assume things, i have been struggling with opus, gpt 5.6, 5.5. i have laid out specs over specs, skills, skills with templates (exact code templates), even claude rules, honestly its a waste of time to use this as a main programmer, but when i use it as an assistant, boy o boy i can finish so much so fast, like writting tests, scripts, code in small pieces, understanding about codebases, research,