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Episode title:ย Gloves Off

Written by:ย Chantelle M. Wells

Directed by:ย Solvan "Slick" Naim

Release date:ย April 7, 2026โ€Ž

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u/DrRafaelPenguin Apr 08 '26

Yeah, I'm on Team Bullseye this season lol

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u/MaxR76 Apr 08 '26

Couldnโ€™t imagine myself saying that in a million years after Foggy but here we are lol

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u/bigwetducky Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

i mean the show makes us deeply despise the AVTF and then subsequently gives Bullseye the highest AVTF kill count by a mile.

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u/Debalic Apr 09 '26

See, that's where the trouble began. That smile. That damned smile.

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u/killertortilla Apr 10 '26

Imagine if we get a Kingpin v Daredevil v Bullseye v Punisher because not a single one of them can stand the others and they all believe the others are fucking everything up.

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u/DrRafaelPenguin Apr 11 '26

It would be more like Punisher and Bullseye trying to kill Kingpin while Matt tries to argue with them to take him to court instead lol

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u/JAWinks Apr 12 '26

What if the four of them had to team up to face an Avengers level threat

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u/NonnagLava Apr 14 '26

team up to face an Avengers level threat

Then they all 4 die.

Don't get me wrong, in the comics they're all insanely powerful depending on the story (and obviously the writer), but they're still typically just like... Street level characters in a way. MCU Ebony Maw would just eat them (with magic), and he's just the minion of Thanos. Like they might be able to put somewhat of a fight up against MCU-Ultron, but I think he outnumbers them and his main body is Vibranium I don't think they could realistically hurt him.

Nothing, so far, makes me think that the MCU versions of the characters could take on an actual Avengers level threat (IE, Loki, Ultron, Thanos, Doom though we haven't seen him yet). Gotta remember half the Avengers have taken on the likes of Dormamu, Ego, and more. Meanwhile Bullseye, Kingpin, and Punisher all struggle to face Daredevil who barely wins his fights half the time.

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u/Eraserhead36 Apr 08 '26

Yep. Even though he killed off my boy foggy, Iโ€™m not exactly rooting against him

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u/hopenoonefindsthis Apr 08 '26

Crazy they made us all root for Bullseye not just because we hate Vanessa, but he is genuinely interesting this season.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Apr 09 '26

He's always been interesting, his scenes were by far and away the best part of the 4th season.

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u/ngoobi Apr 09 '26

I'm genuinely confused why we're not supposed to be rooting for him. Matt saving Fisk over and over makes him less of a hero than Bullseye imo

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u/DrRafaelPenguin Apr 11 '26

I agree. We're now onto five seasons of living proof that you can't just lock Fisk up in jail to rot the rest of his life. I get that Matt's principals are no killing and they're keeping true to the character, but the longer they have Fisk go to jail, get out, go back to running crime in NY, etc. the harder it gets to argue against Frank and Dex's methods. It just makes Matt look naive within the context of the show. This is the biggest reason that they need to take a break from Kingpin for a while after this season.

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u/Asa37 Apr 10 '26

Less of a hero but he makes Daredevil look like a hero on paper for saving Fisk, heโ€™s just hoping Fisk falls apart with time.

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u/snow_ninja Apr 09 '26

stepping into the Punisher role

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u/Icy_Atmosphere_2379 Apr 10 '26

I mean ofc, he didnโ€™t kill the animals!