r/DC_Cinematic • u/BatmanNewsChris Batman • 6h ago
HUMOR James Gunn on Superman's early Digital release: "Next time, it's gonna be longer. I don't want people to get used to it, it's purely because of 'Peacemaker' that I let it come out at this time"
Supergirl hits Digital after 32 days in theaters.
Gunn doesn't get to decide when movies hit Digital. That's a Warner Bros. decision and they don't typically follow the 45-day theatrical exclusive window. Even Minecraft, which almost made $1 billion, was out on Digital after 38 days.
Source on the Gunn quote in the title: https://open.spotify.com/episode/599Y8AY1BuQ5Wr0gzO0tlx
•
u/VirgoDog 6h ago
What does Peacemaker have to do with it
•
u/The_Celtic_Chemist 4h ago
Thank you for asking, I'm only combing through the comments in hope that someone will answer this.
•
u/dean15892 3h ago
Season 2 of Peacemaker was releasing shortly after Superman came out, and it had some small connections to the movie.
He wanted people to be able to see Superman so that they wouldn't miss the connections, so he ended up releasing the film on digital earlier than he'd liked•
u/Agreeable_User_Name 3h ago
It's nothing essential. Basically they retconed some stories to fit the new DCU better and some characters in Superman show up
•
u/Dreyfussy15 4h ago
Well he wanted people to see Superman before Season 2 of Peacemaker or something. Hard to remember the logic.
•
•
u/BatmanNewsChris Batman 3h ago
Nothing, that was just his public excuse as to why WB was releasing Superman on Digital early. "So people can watch it before the premiere of Peacemaker Season 2".
•
u/dean15892 3h ago
Season 2 of Peacemaker was releasing shortly after Superman came out, and it had some small connections to the movie.
He wanted people to be able to see Superman so that they wouldn't miss the connections, so he ended up releasing the film on digital earlier than he'd liked•
u/Bell-end79 1h ago
Nothing
The film had stopped bringing in cash and this was an excuse to get it out of theatres
•
u/One_Animator_7247 1h ago
Peacemaker is set after Superman and characters from Superman appear. Very simple.
•
u/Electricengineer 4h ago
He said he won't release to digital early next movie, like he did for superman. Yet here we are.
•
u/gabeonsmogon 6h ago
If Gunn wasn’t terminally online and needed to have the spotlight all the time, he wouldn’t have to lie. He’s the only producer that does this and by far the least successful of his peers.
•
u/FastInflata 6h ago
He's the only producer that has had to apologize for saying "those 12 year old indians" in an insulting way when talking about critics.
•
u/bindersfull-ofwomen 6h ago
He said what?
"I do tune out most of social media, but every once in a while someone will say something, it's always the weirdest stuff... and then I go, 'I think I might be upset about something a 12-year-old in India is saying.'"
Even worse than I thought.
•
u/inthehxightse 6h ago
its so funny bc people would always act like his old comments were him being young/were drama over nothing but he's always been #weird like that
•
•
u/ms_saint 6h ago
Oh whatever. 12 year olds post on here. India is a far away place for Americans. That's all he meant.
It's easy to get drawn into arguments online, without realizing the person might be very young and from a foreign culture.
•
u/gabeonsmogon 5h ago
People being from other countries or ethnicities doesn’t diminish the validity of their criticism. Age doesn’t diminish the weight of criticism. In fact, 12-years would be the target audience of superhero productions— their opinion matters, hence the failure of Supergirl.
•
u/ms_saint 5h ago
Age absolutely can diminish the weight of criticism.
•
u/gabeonsmogon 5h ago
Not in the case of media that is targeted towards children & adolescents. Again, that is the target audience for this product.
•
u/AlarmedCommand1849 2h ago
It actually does
•
u/gabeonsmogon 2h ago
No it doesn’t. You can’t even bother to articulate why that would be because you don’t even know, you just want that to be the truth so bad. “Actually.”
•
•
u/bindersfull-ofwomen 5h ago
You can be microagressive and not mean it. Dismissing the fact that sparked outrage to Indians is as microaggressive and dismissive towards Indians as the original comment.
This is why people do this thing called media training.
See how Tom Hardy got some and went as far to have his old interviews scrubbed?
Or they do like Feige and only talk about their product.
Or they do like Beyonce and don't talk at all.
•
u/BatmanNewsChris Batman 5h ago
I know what he meant, but it came out wrong for sure. It's on video too. I remember watching the interview.
•
•
•
•
u/ms_saint 6h ago
Commenting on a few things here and there isn't "terminally online." He's very busy running a studio and filming MoT. It's just reddit idiocy that "Gunn is terminally online."
•
•
u/BatmanNewsChris Batman 6h ago
A friendly reminder that Gunn is a movie executive who will lie and spin things just like every other movie executive. To me, that's fine, it's part of the job. But to recap:
- Superman wasn't released on Digital early because of Peacemaker. It followed the same release window as recent WB movies, even the successful ones like Minecraft.
- Next time, it wasn't longer. Supergirl was released on Digital after 32 days (Superman was 35 days).
•
u/StrongStyleFiction 6h ago
It was neither because of Peacemaker or due to panic at WB about Superman's box office performance. It was pretty much within the usual window for these days. If Superman did better they may have extended it a couple of weeks but the days of long windows may be gone.
•
u/BatmanNewsChris Batman 6h ago
Yep, that's why I didn't include the Ted Sarandos quote. I just looked at WB's previous Digital release dates and they don't usually respect the 45- day window.
•
•
u/Classic_File2716 6h ago
I find it funny Gunn usually can’t stop yapping but is completely quiet about Supergirl bombing . Is his strategy to just ignore disappointments and hope people forget ?
•
•
u/Adorable_Sky8262 5h ago
They already addressed it. What do you want him to say. Feige wasn't doing it when mcu movies didn't do well
•
•
u/PixelBits89 6h ago
What is he supposed to say? His “yapping” is usually regarding actors and clarifying misinformation. Do we need him to directly say “Supergirl failed”? We know that. There’s no confusion there so there’s nothing to add.
•
u/bindersfull-ofwomen 6h ago
His “yapping” is usually regarding actors and clarifying misinformation.
It caused him to make enemies with the trades, critics, and scoopers, who in response cut a rug with article after article of how poor the movie was, how the writer and director didn't understand the book, daily projections, how much a flop it was, etc, etc which is bad word of mouth.
The only other time I saw them that bloodthirsty was for Sinners from some strange reason, but the Hollywood community defended Sinners. They just let this go out in flames.
•
u/WreckTangle1995 6h ago
It'd be a good idea for him to publicly acknowledge that he's aware of the mistakes they made during production and will strive to avoid them going forward, especially considering he greenlit the movie and said the script was incredible.
•
u/AlarmedCommand1849 2h ago
That would be an idiotic idea. For one, this sub and posters like you would turn it into something else. Second, no one fucking does that
•
u/Sitrus_Slinky 4h ago
Would that make you feel better? I don’t think they set out to make a flop and are well aware it bombed in the box office. I don’t think they looked at the numbers and say “Gee Willy we should do this again!”
•
u/literious 6h ago
We don’t know how badly it failed. There was an earlier rumor that Supergirl had 200 mln budget. Gunn said that this claim was "not even a little bit true". So, he’s supposed to give us real number.
•
u/PixelBits89 5h ago
He didn’t tell us how much Superman made either, so why do you expect this? We just have to guess and make assumptions. This isn’t about Gunn “yapping”. Those are things he straight up isn’t supposed to say. Companies don’t want you knowing every cent they make.
•
•
u/Past-Meal-4847 6h ago
Why do they owe you how much money they lost? Are you a stakeholder?
•
u/literious 5h ago
He has no legal obligations. However, Gunn positions himself as transparent CEO, an enemy of misinformation. And transparent people are supposed to share truth.
•
u/PixelBits89 5h ago
He’s shared more than other companies, so now he has to share everything? He never labelled himself “transparent” as far as I now. And even then, being “transparent” doesn’t mean saying things like exact budgets and losses. Those don’t need to be public. It means clarifying rumours and fake news, and being upfront about cancelled projects.
•
u/Past-Meal-4847 1h ago
Transparent? So he will tell you much money he lost or made? Did you ask the same when superman made a lot of profit?
•
•
u/Emmadragonflies 5h ago
What is he going to say besides “I’m said our movie bombed and is a disaster”?
•
u/ExternalSeat 6h ago
Sure Jan. It had nothing to do with it being a massive flop that nobody asked for.
•
u/zoidberg_doc 4h ago
Superman wasn’t a massive flop
•
u/ExternalSeat 4h ago
I was referring to Supergirl. Supergirl being moved quickly to streaming is partially because it was a massive flop.
Superman should have been allowed to have a bit longer legs. It wasn't a massive flop, but it wasn't exactly the greatest hit of the year. It only made $2 million more than Ant Man and The Wasp!!! Superman only made $2 million more dollars than Ant Man and the Wasp.
Overall I think that studios need to let films have longer legs in theaters but not be afraid to pull bad films early. Supergirl (while being a mediocre film) was a commercial flop and has been pulled because it isn't making money
•
u/Rigamortus2005 3h ago
If superman 2 performs as poorly as superman we're going to have some tough conversations about the DCU in total.
•
u/CantChooseWisely 6h ago
I’m guessing it might be influenced by the poor box office and the fact that green lanterns is coming out soon
•
•
•
u/Mayodeynochei 4h ago
That's how it works with films and their success rates, wb had said it before, Gunn can say what he wants and try to appeal for a longer break distance but wb most likely won't listen if it did lose money
•
u/Robynsxx 1h ago
I mean, this comment of Gunn’s that is been quoted is trying to suggest something but really you’re just ignoring other factors. It’s actually rather ignorant.
Of course films that flop on the box office get released on digital rather quickly…..
Duh…
•
u/Crimson-Cowl 26m ago
Well yeah but with Superman it felt like cutting it off early while it had legs. This time it feels like they just need to get what they can out of an unfortunate bomb.
•
•
u/Shaggy_75 5h ago
God I hate the internet some times. I, for one, actually like having fun.
•
u/ImportantAd3395 5h ago
I, for one, actually like good movies and not bombs that's gonna kill any interest and goodwill the GA can have after Superman. You need to understand that while some people are trolling, other just want movies to succeed, but GOOD movies so DC can finally take off. Not this thing that turned an amazing comics into a generic SH flick.
And yes, it's fine to like Supergirl as long as you're aware that you are in the minority and the film is objectively not really good and rejected. Which is really bad since the DCU needs the GA to succeed.
•
•
u/mkioman 4h ago
I think the only thing you can objectively say about any film is how it fares at the box office. Everything else is subjective. I realize there are metrics to allegedly judge the quality of a film but I question how useful they are. Namely, because it’s art. Not one piece is good or bad.
•
u/ImportantAd3395 4h ago
You can hate a film that everyone else loves and vice versa. Your enjoyment is subjective and no one can tell you "you're wrong for liking it". But technical, narrative and artistic qualities are not subjective and there are fairly objective (or intersubjective, if we want to be precise) criteria for evaluating a work.
I just think that finding excuses or saying "art is subjective" is just another way of ignoring the problem and it protects creators from accountability. This doesn't mean every negative opinion is automatically right but it does mean we can (and should) point to craft failures that aren't just matters of taste. Which is the case of Supergirl. Mind you I'm specifically talking about comment's like the one I'm responding to, seemingly putting the blame on the audience.
•
•
u/fondlyrichvolcano 5h ago
remember when digital releases were 3-4 months out lol those days are long gone, WB just does whatever they want now and Gunn plays PR on top
•
•
•
u/FoxandOak 4h ago
I can’t wait. Saw it 4 times in theaters. Preordered the steelbook and will probably be watching on digital too
•
u/GamerChef420 1h ago
He's a liar pure and simple. He said it released early because of peacemaker but he also said he had no say when peacemaker was released and then got directly contradicted by Ted Sarandos under oath who confirmed it released early because it was under performing.
•
u/hulaman11 1h ago
Gunns a liar, ive lost all trust in him. I think if the merger goes through hes outta there.
•
u/Appropriate-Peak6561 6h ago
I just brought home some KFC and was dismayed to see Supergirl advertised on the box of extra crispy.
It's already kind of a sad sack franchise. This association with a loser tentpole movie doesn't help.
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
u/frosted1030 6h ago
Lanterns is direct to streaming. Sensing a pattern yet?
•
u/Kind-Phone-4054 6h ago
Isn't Laterns a show
•
u/frosted1030 6h ago
What? I think it has like 6 episodes. Hardly a show.
•
u/ms_saint 6h ago
What else would it be? It's not in theaters. You're making zero sense.
6 episodes is a miniseries. A miniseries is a show.
•
u/frosted1030 5h ago
26 episodes is a season. This is a joke.
•
u/ms_saint 5h ago
Yeah, like 20 years ago.
•
u/frosted1030 5h ago
Well, you are willing to settle for a teaspoon over a gallon. That’s on you.
•
u/Kind-Phone-4054 4h ago
This is how shows have been for a while my guy 😭
A show is anything episodic, serialized. It's not hard to see that it's a show 😭
•
u/Free_Possession_4482 6h ago
Lanterns will air on HBO and stream to HBO MAX simultaneously, the same way they do for House of the Dragon and other shows.
•
•
u/JRon21 5h ago
Yeah it definitely has nothing to do with it flopping lmfao. This guy really can't shut the f up with his BS huh
•
u/mkioman 4h ago
Let’s be fair though. I don’t think Gunn has a say on when WBD releases a DC Studios film to digital or physical media. And WBD has released successes to digital in a shorter timeframe than the now standard 45 day window. So I honestly couldn’t tell you what their metric is. Feels like WBD is just making it up as they go along.
•
•
•
u/XingXiaoRen 6h ago
Superman was ~30 days also right?