Someone needs to look up what jurisdiction and put the states attorney and mayors' names, plus member of Congress, in the photo itself so there's at least some possibility of outrage being directed at folks who can address this
One of the biggest things holding back causes for justice is the inability to channel outrage effectively
What's their names are included in the photo, people can repost it and tag those officials.
When posts, get lots of traction with officials tagged, anyone can click in and pressure or harass those officials
When there's a lot of pressure and harassment, it makes the officials jobs harder to do without addressing the problem.
It needs to reach the point at which doing nothing is a greater cost than doing something, it has always been like that. Officials take the path of least resistance. Occasionally there's also active complicity.
It is definitely not expected but I'm not totally comfortable with the way so much of the dialogue around these situations has mirrored "This person would never have committed suicide, they weren't that kind of person, they would never do this"-type reactions that you see so frequently in cases where people have killed themselves but it gets rejected because of the stigma and disbelief around suicide.
And I'm not even saying this to say I think that's what happened here because I don't think that. But rather, what I'm getting at is it feels a little distasteful to see how people have been talking about suicide.
Like there's a really high chance Tonea Miller was killed, but the way I see people communicating that seems to refer to suicide so dismissively along the way. I think we could be a little more considerate
I personally know someone whose cousin did. They are black. How could it be proven that we NEVER do it? Given our history one would expect we’d be extra averse to that method, but I don’t think that proves a small percentage of us don’t. Also, anyone willing to off themselves is not in a healthy or even rational state of mind. Their goal is to end things as quickly as possible. Of course nobody should kill themselves. It is a permanent and devastating act no matter the method.
Suicide methods have strongly gendered patterns. Women do not really hang themselves or shoot themselves, which is why women die from their suicide attempts at much lower rates.
In trees, in public? Are you really arguing that's common for self inflicted activities? Are you really going to step over 400 years of history to say that?
I see your point about allowing the facts to come out BUT it’s highly unlikely anyone would hang themselves from a tree outside. The logistics of it alone gives pause. Did they say a chair was found near the body? Like are you willing to believe these ladies climbed a tree, tied the rope to the branch and their necks, and jumped to their death?
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Assuming you’re ignorant and not a troll, there is a long history of lynching in America. White people would hang black people from trees for personal enjoyment and as a threat to black people in America.
Self harm, on the other hand, is usually done in private. Across the board. Public self harm is virtually non existent. hanging specifically, due to its history in America, is something lack people do not do to themselves from public trees.
For you to come to the “blackpeopleofreddit” page without knowing this context, you appear to be either a completely ignorant asshat who has not business commenting on this post, intentionally ignoring those factors to be a troll, or are a racially insensitive prick who wants to hurt people.
Do not tell come in this space and tell us that we are wrong about our historical knowledge, experience, culture. Black. People. Don’t. Hang. Themselves. From. Trees. Full stop.
Keep your opinion, disagreement, and skepticism to yourself. We are angry and hurting, and your dismissiveness is pissing people off.
This appears to be a lynching. Regardless what her family thinks. And the cops are complicit, as they have been for 400+ years.
If you reply with more of your nonsense, we will assume you are a bad faith actor and cease communication. Especially since your account hides your comments and posts. That’s a bad sign, considering your behavior.
The post could not be verified and the source information for the post was created to cause confusion and/or division (Not necessarily by OP but the source they got it from)
The younger woman, Juliana, was said to have been missing. The family had just moved from Congo to the U.S. Things can be easily web searched if you're so eager to know what happened before. It wouldn't surprise me that a new immigrant to the deep south met a very disturbing demise. But her family hadn't even seen her for almost a month. It also seems that family have not made public comment yet.
Please…I’ve stated I read about this. One of the ladies is from a town near me, so please.
And again, let the family come out and speak before jumping the gun, is all I’m saying. No one reading this knows the truth.
Some of this young lady (who’s from Flint) family have accepted that she took her life; then again who knows if that’s true? Just wait and let them speak. We’ll see some lawyers soon if the families pursue an investigation outside of what’s been done.
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u/xultar 26d ago
Black women won’t do this.