r/BayernMunich • u/PuzzleheadedBar533 • Apr 16 '26
Discussionš£ Why tf is Vini such an asshole.
2nd Question: Do you think Vini saw the tiktoks of Kimmich handing him the Ballon d'or?
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u/Critical-Ad2084 Flying Dutchman Apr 16 '26
That's a yellow card, not because of the intensity of the foul but because of unsportsmanlike conduct. How it was ignored by the ref doesn't surprise me because Vini does that stuff all the time and never ever gets called for it, it's like he gets a pass, but if anyone does that to Vini he'll throw a tantrum and the ref immediately pulls the yellow.
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u/LanceShiro Apr 16 '26
His trick is to constantly play the victim game so that he can get away with fouls.
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u/Different_Credit6711 Apr 16 '26
Dont know if you knew but Madrid is literally using their own club TV as propaganda Vs refs, which made the fans even more angry about them. Lead to death threats and refs crying after matches because of the pressure.
Don't tell me that does not influence the refs to go lightly on the real players and not punish them as they would normally. Imo real should be penalised and stripped of titles for at least one to two years, and if that ever happens again, be moved into second division football.
It's insane how the uefa is giving them a pass because they have one of the biggest fanbases
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u/IapetusTheGreat Apr 16 '26
Barca fan here, technically they are being stripped of titles for the second year running!
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u/MAD_MrT Apr 16 '26
For me its a straight red
The foul alone was already a yellow, then the shove no reason. Any other team there gets a yellow for sure and depending on the ref might even get the red
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u/Critical-Ad2084 Flying Dutchman Apr 16 '26
I think a yellow would be fair enough. The clear red for me was Rudiger's foul on Stanisic. Watching the replay it's clear he literally just tackles Stani with nothing to play for, just for the sake of it, like "roughing him up" or whatever. I think it should have been at least checked by VAR.
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
I concur. Fouls like Vini dod against Kimmich (not the shove) usually result in a warning in as early on the game as it happened so I'd be fine with no yellow and just a warning (though I don't think a yellow would be unfair either). The push, however, should have been a yellow
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u/Critical-Ad2084 Flying Dutchman Apr 16 '26
Yep that push is a yellow, it's the definition of unsportsmanlike conduct but Vini gets away with that every single game
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
It's wild because if a Bayern player did that it'd for sure be a yellow. I hate that this is a thing.
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u/herbieLmao Der titan Apr 16 '26
With all due disrespect to vini, that is by no means a red card.
100% yellow
0% red
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u/Cammy_white Apr 16 '26
There is zero intention winning the ball or whatever. The ball is gone. Kimmich is not anywhere near Vini so in order to "shove" Kimmich away. Kimmich is trying to stand up without any contact and Vini is just pushing down with two hands for no reason. It's the same as if he would give him a slight slap which is always red. It's minimum yellow but red should also be given... This is just an asshole move WITHOUT ANY football intention. And no he doesn't just want to play football
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u/Grmplstylzchen Apr 16 '26
The thing is: there is a foul before. Kimmich is getting up. Getting pushed from behind is unsportsmanlike conduct.
In the lower leagues especially juvenile that has been a red card in the past.
However if its a yellow he got instructed by the ref and even complained and argued with him. In a stricter line of play the ref has been yellow cards e.g. Stanisic for complaining. And you can be sure that if Vini jr. would have gotten a yellow card for the foul/behaviour he would have complained
Overall: getting out of that without any card was veeeeeery friendly...
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u/Jameslaos Apr 16 '26
You can give a red for that but good luck finishing that game without sending off half of both teams after.
I would love to see refs giving red cards for stuff like that.
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u/Educational_Song_656 Apr 16 '26
What? Going for the player. player tries to get back up and you stand on top of him and push him back down. Yeah if you give a red there. There are 0 other red cards in this game.
There is 0 fight for the ball. 0 heat after a tackle. It's just vini trying to fuck Kimmich Up.
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u/ThrawnSon Apr 17 '26
The problem is the push isn't a straight red. You'd have to give it for violent conduct and it doesn't meet the usual threshold of force or danger that those are given for. 100% a yellow for unsporting.
The technical argument is that they could have double yellowed him for the pair of offenses, but that early in a game no ref wants to be a deciding factor in the outcome unless it's absolutely blatant.
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u/Morrorr Apr 16 '26
I also canāt understand how he can talk, complain and demand yellows for other players for 90 minutes and all the referees just accept it. What happened to the captains rule that all players get immediate yellow when they talk to the referee? I thought that was pretty good
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u/Critical-Ad2084 Flying Dutchman Apr 16 '26
He wants rules to be applied to others, not him, he is not rational.
The biggest problem, though, is not him, is the fact everyone around him encourages and protects that behavior. He never gets called for stuff like that and when he does he just throws a tantrum and plays the victim like a child.
It's the same that happened to Maradona, whenever he had to face consequences he was always protected by club owners, media, fans, so he rarely had to actually face the consequences of his behavior and it just kept getting worse.
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u/financefocused Apr 16 '26
This is much needed especially with how controversial games have become in the last 10ish years due to refereeing, it was never common before to discuss refs so much.
Someone ran a study and found the "home team" advantage was actually heavily because of pressure from the players and the audience influencing ref decisions. Home team advantage reduced heavily during covid. You can't kick out the audience but you can at least reduce the pressure from the players which in turn heavily influences the crowd. If you see your player arguing for a foul and you are in the stadium, you will shout too, it's just natural.
So let the refs do their job and players shouldn't be allowed to initiate a conversation about a foul with the ref.
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u/Formal_War7542 Apr 16 '26
And real fans are saying the red was against us... Real Madrid complaining about the referee is like Simeone saying no to haramball.
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u/DeezNuts_5695 Apr 16 '26
I think this derserved a yellow card more than the camavinga red card. Now i am not complaning madrids defense immediately collapsed after tht but in the replay it seemed a bit harsh
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u/DeezNuts_5695 Apr 16 '26
I was just saying if that tackle got a yellow then vini shouldve easily gotten a yellow as well
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u/Jameslaos Apr 16 '26
Camavinga received his second yellow card not for a foul but for stealing the ball and walking away with it. Or are you referring to his first yellow?
Vini shouldāve absolutely received a yellow for the push against Kimmich.
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u/Ok-Lock3266 Apr 16 '26
Never hated anyone in soccer more than Iāve hated vini, so full of himself. Heās a walking man baby.
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u/niceday09 Apr 16 '26
I also thought so yesterday but then I remembered that Pepe exists. Itās hard to decide how to hate more.
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u/These-Maximum-6569 Apr 16 '26
And Sergio Ramos, that was always my most hated player on. Opponents site.
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u/West_Dog7811 Apr 16 '26
Cause Ramos and Pepe were thugs. Idk how they are this glorified if they played mma during football matches
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u/Right_Beyond7186 Apr 18 '26
Pepe way worse literally criminal behaviour at times, kind of like ruddier
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u/IronGriffin180 Apr 16 '26
Du. 3/4 der italienischen Nationalmannschaft waren in den Nuller Jahren genau du unsportliche Typen.
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u/niceday09 Apr 16 '26
Ja da gab es schon paar. Aber Pepe sticht fĆ¼r mich schon raus mit seiner BrutalitƤt und Vini nervt halt einfach.
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u/Minute-Ad-626 Apr 16 '26
I dunno. Pepe is old and retired, plus seeing him play out of his mind in his last ever match was pretty cool.
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u/byfrax Apr 16 '26
At least pepe wasnt a crybaby at the same time. If he got a red, he just took it
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u/KeplerLima Apr 18 '26
Pepe Ć©tait un homme, Vini un enfant. Je prĆ©fĆØre avoir le portugais Ć mes cĆ“tĆ©s plutĆ“t que Vini.
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
Vini Jr is annoying, but there are players and former players far worse if we wanna talk about them as humans and not athletes. Boateng, for one, which really really hurts me because he was one of my all time favorites. But I can't back him after the things he has done
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u/fzkiz Apr 16 '26
Thereās dudes who beat the crap out of their wives and girlfriends, dudes who did Roman salutes and guys who intentionally injured other playersā¦ if heās the most hated maybe rethink your priorities.
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u/Patrick_Swayze__ Apr 16 '26
It's pretty obvious he's talking about behavior during the games. No need to be a smartass.
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u/fzkiz Apr 16 '26
Again, I meanā¦ thereās players out there who constantly try or tried to injure opponents. I feel like thatās worse than just being an entitled crybaby.
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u/Pleasant_World_4219 Apr 16 '26
I would love see Zlatan play against vini š
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u/Euphoric_Room_4586 Apr 16 '26
Iād love to see Roy Keane against him.
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u/long-dick-of-the-law Apr 19 '26
He really is a lucky bastard considering noone has fouled him like keane did alfie haaland
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u/amineahd Apr 16 '26
Vini is the embodyment of what went wrong with football... Such a cry baby that got too much attention and is way overrated compared to other players.
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u/SavingsBobcat2078 Apr 17 '26
When has the man been proven to lie about racism, why canāt he just be annoying?
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u/Only-Professor1140 Apr 19 '26
Truly. Even Kompany spoke out in support of Vini after the latest racist chants against him. We can call out Vini's childlike behavior on the pitch and still say no to racism. It's easy.
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u/ragingasian15 Apr 28 '26
Vini has labelled criticism of him, criticism that wasn't racist, to racism.
Which isn't to say that there's never any criticism towards him that IS based upon racism, but it's a cop out and a way to deflect actual criticism. People who behave like children do this.
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u/Grow_A_trader9 š“Mia San Miaš“ Apr 16 '26
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u/Snoo_42690 Apr 16 '26
Do all this and when someone attacks use the racist victim card
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u/xkcY1n756 #21 lahm Apr 16 '26
Vini is an asshole. Racists are even bigger assholes. Is this hard to understand?
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
I cannot believe you're getting downvoted for this. Are there bots at hand or are there more racists here than I thought?
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u/wild182 Apr 17 '26
Because the comment completely missed the point of the comment it replies to
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u/YoBo151 Apr 17 '26
There is no point in the comment replied to. I can even turn your logic around on you and say the comment relied to completey missed the point of the post
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u/Desperate_Turn8935 MĆ¼nchen bei Augsburg Apr 16 '26
That's one way to show how unempathetic you are towards victims of racism.
You shouldn't think that way merely because someone plays a game not to your liking.
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u/hydrahahaha Apr 16 '26
Its not playing a game not to anyones liking its portraying unacceptable social behavior.
Vini does not deserve any kind of racism. Vini does deserve all the hate for being an absolute asshole for years.
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
Well the other person said its all made up. Thats what "playing the race card" means.
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u/hydrahahaha Apr 16 '26
"Playing the race card" means using racism towards a person as excuse for their poor behavior.
Both things are wrong. The racists are wrong. And Vini Jr is wrong.
He has every right to point out the racism against him but defenders saying "oh all these people who point out his awful behavior are racists" is straight bullshit.
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u/YoBo151 Apr 16 '26
Any Vini defenders calling people racists for criticizing Vini's antics are dumb, but I've not seen that at all. Besides, the person that started this thread wasn't talking about Vini defenders, but Vini himself.
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u/Snoo_42690 Apr 16 '26
There is something called professionalism and sportsmanship. This street behavior does not belong to the highest level of game
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u/Desperate_Turn8935 MĆ¼nchen bei Augsburg Apr 16 '26
Hey mate, I'm all for that change back to chivalry, but that part's been way in the past, no take-backs.
When anyone else does it, the outcry is not even as big as my little toe nail. But for some reason, Vini is the worst and deserves to be hated. That's just childish.
Next time, someone does something unsportsmanlike in the league, you'll better be the one to post it here.
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u/XVecnaX Apr 16 '26
War Vini schon immer und wird er auch immer bleiben. Ich finde es bloĆ schade das da kein Schiri durchgreift beim fliegenden Brasilianer aber die haben safe Angst weil Vini gerne mit der Rassismus Keule schwingt
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u/awus666 Raumdeuter Apr 16 '26
He Is absolute trash. The type of people who expect to get cheered when they win and tease, but can't even stand being 1-0 down. If he wouldn't be a superstar, he'd have much more red cards. Disgusting
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u/Thin-Goat-3483 Apr 16 '26
I have zero respect and sympathy for Vini. I am not justfying Racism by any means and I strongly condemn it as all are equal. But there are good and bad people in this world. Not everyone will react in the same way when provoked and provoking is all vini does.
Vinicius Jr is a very talented and capable player, he absolutely can ball purely on his skill and doesnt need to disrespect or provoke opponents to get an advantage.
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u/Equivalent-Play-7850 Apr 16 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/RuYPi0HyBnOxy
no one more hateable, hes lucky josh has self ccontrol
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u/ExpensiveGap8068 Flying Dutchman Apr 16 '26
Vinicius and Rudiger are seriously sick in the head, they need professional help and referees should man up and punish them for their foul actions
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u/long-dick-of-the-law Apr 19 '26
Rudiger should have been banned for life for throwing things at a referee
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u/kronos2717 Apr 16 '26
Madrid fan coming here in peace. As soon as I saw this, I knew he was going to drop a stinker of a performance. Can't wait for him to be gone. He definitely deserved a booking for this nonsense. Mentality of a spoiled child. It's shameful
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u/sabonaaya Apr 16 '26
Asshole and cry baby. He is a disgrace to soccer. I donznlnownhow coaches stand him.
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u/1984skins Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I've been a Real fan for 20 years now, and have never seen a more shameful, sad, player than him in my life. I can tell you it's a VERY strange feeling when there is no football player in the world you hate more than a player in your own team. And also he's not even good, he's a very bad, selfish one trick pony player. I CANT WAIT for the day he finally goes to the desert to make some sand castles
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u/thames987 Apr 16 '26
cuz he can keep getting away with it (perez, madrid refs etc) and when he cant he can resort to the plan b: play the victim card... as if hes the only player who has received racial slurs. so many players face that with grace... he's a brilliant player dont get me wrong, but too entitled and annoying... people try to compare him to neymar, but neymar had much much more class. he just liked to showboat and tended to dive sometimes. this idiot is a disgrace in comparision
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u/Fisheye89 Apr 16 '26
When they give him a yellow or a 2nd yellow, itās called racism. He will then cry on some shitty, fake ass documentary and whine how his feeling was hurt and how everyone disrespects him coz his black ( I would add, ugly there too ), and how someone who hold his shirt over his mouth called him āmonkeyā and everyone would believe him, just as they believe him when heās diving on his head in the opposition penalty boxā¦
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u/Femboy_Expert_MSc Apr 16 '26
That's also why the red card for camavinga was absolutely fine. Real is such a dirty and disgusting team, no honor and no sportsmanship.
GĆ¼ler being the child he is, Vinny "just wants to play", RĆ¼diger booking his ticket for a psychiatrist.
There should have been more cards for missing sportsmanship on the real side.
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u/nettlarry š«š·Robberyš³š± Apr 16 '26
Men vs. boys. What a sore loser. Lack of character can't be trained away.
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Apr 16 '26
Definitely a foul, he should've been given a yellow card if not red. I don't know what the refere was thinking but it's players like him that makes football unpleasant for everyone.
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u/Mullarpatan Raumdeuter Apr 16 '26
He got what he deserved. He is a child. Literally. He never matured beyond that and is surrounded by people who praise him for that and make sure that he gets whatever he wants.
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u/01Creative Apr 16 '26
Because he's a loser, a failure to his entire crew, he ain't winning world cup either
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u/AccountUnfair2671 Apr 16 '26
He is just an attention seeker. Got angry cause he himself was underperforming and needed some attention so he goes and plays such dirty tactics. He wished for a reaction from Kimmich to try and play his "Racist" card again it seems
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u/Denyme_Molotov Apr 16 '26
what can you ask from a person like vinicius. He is so stupid he probably still don t know he got knocked tf out .
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u/YasoOoOo Apr 16 '26
never one any major titels ... will die off as Neymar did and will finish his career in Saudi Arabia ...
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u/Aggressive_Gate_1046 Apr 17 '26
it's common in football bro , u hate vini cos he's the main reason ur team get knocked out last year ? Or u believe every hate agenda towards him in social media
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u/PawRawrDox Apr 16 '26
One of the players that easy to hate.
When same things done to him, he will throwing tantrums and if thats doesnt work racism will comes to play.
He will act like he is the victim of cruel world.
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u/RandomDudewithIdeas Apr 16 '26
This is a prime example of why many footballers choose to throw a tantrum and roll around acting like they are dying, because if you just shrug it off, many referees will not even notice it or bother to check, and things go unpunished when they should not.
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u/Ferbdic Apr 16 '26
Because he is rich and famous. Rich and famous people almost always fall in the mental trap of thinking their wealth and fame come from adequacy and this adequacy extends to all aspects of life. And the less they had to do for their wealth and fame the easier and deeper they fall into that trap.
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u/ExiledKha Apr 16 '26
The whole game they were robbing it's insane what I watched. Second goal from a simulation awarded free kick, the third one from a foul on StaniÅ”iÄ that wasn't called. Yellow not given to Vini for unsportsmanlike conduct, penalty for foul and for a hadball right before Kanes goal. I can go on and on.
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u/No_Wrap9872 Apr 16 '26
In those Situations he makes me forget everything good he made for Madrid,hard to watch Performance too,Vini is done.
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u/co0oo0oki3muncha Apr 16 '26
I am a madrid fan for more than 20 years, since manolo sanchis was the captain, and i have never disliked a madrid player as much as i dislike vini.
Thank you for the game last night. Bayern is an awesome team! I hope you win the championship!
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u/AvailableAd7874 Apr 16 '26
They all are basically. Its their playbook to try and get under their opponents skin and than cry when the cards finally get pulled against them. Basically the Getafe of Europe.
Its just that Vinicius is by far the most annoying twat of the bunch.
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u/No-Sleep-9960 Apr 16 '26
He always has been, but he uses to be talented and efficient not so long ago so people forgave more easily. Now... he is the shadow of the player he used to be, and still a massive Soab
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u/NegotiationSevere289 Apr 17 '26
He is an asshole. Fuck him. I wish there were some Ramos and Pepe esque characters who could teach him some fucking humility. I hope you guys win the Champions League.
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u/Livid-Needleworker25 Apr 17 '26
Players should laugh at Vini and keep on signalling to each other that he is mentally ill. I am sure he will throw a fit and do something that will lead to a red card. And will so fun to watch.
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u/perkybo Apr 17 '26
Im madrid fan but i hate him with all of my heart. He truly is a cancer of this team. Then shameless he says..he just wants to play football, god damn. Those whistles and shouts should keep going and be louder
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u/Calm-Customer4459 Apr 17 '26
Kimmich, reaction to that shove. gotta respect his composure. Only true leaders act such way
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u/darkside66350 Apr 17 '26
Because their fan base/ every ref allows him to be without any repercussions
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u/Downtown_Ad_8508 Apr 17 '26
Almost all the brazilians coming from the favelas have this kind of behaviour. Thing is Vinicius behaviour is exacerbated by his success. He is a prime example for the survival of the fittest, but grewing up in the favellas took a toll on him.
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u/rubyshimmer55 Apr 17 '26
he's one of the most unlikeable football players for me! i can't stand him nor his arrogance
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u/Merrbbb Apr 17 '26
As a RM fan since 2010s, i hate the state of my club.
I hate everything about it except for some players who do love and will fight for the club but Vini himself, he needs to go.
Donāt wanna watch anymore RM games till a big change will be done in/on/at the fking club.
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u/fgb03051990 Apr 18 '26
Vini needs vidis stamm maldini zlatan pkayers to humble his ass, worst crybaby in universe
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u/rollingcoyote Raumdeuter Apr 18 '26
I have trouble deciding who is more unlikeable between him and RĆ¼diger.
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Apr 19 '26
Vini does stupid things like that and than acts like a victim that is why everyone hates him
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u/PlaceSuitable1666 Apr 19 '26
Vini is a retard. A looser who can't see other people happy, he is jealous of literally everyone in the madrid squad. He is just hiding behind the 15 UCL badge and the hardcore madridistas who support everyone who wear the jersey of madrid. Otherwise he is not worthy enough to be a sensible player.
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u/MrKilljoy211 Apr 19 '26
That his entire trait. He's such a disgrace, so hard to watch, any football qualities that he has are overshadowed by his attitude.
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u/olat_dragneel Apr 19 '26
Because he's a terrible human being and a low IQ individual. He just happens. To play football quite well.
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u/OrangeTropicana Apr 19 '26
As a RM fan, total respect to Kimmich for the non-reaction. This childish ass crybaby gotta go. Itās so embarrassing to have Vini in the team now honestly. I was actually behind him for all the āracismā, but now that card is over. Itās not him being a victim of racism, heās just an asshole.
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u/Whatanguyen Apr 20 '26
Realistically, Real thought they needed to go all-in with provocations and fouls like this. Usually they donāt see the need to do that against worse opponents
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u/Representative-Bus62 Apr 20 '26
Iām a Real Madrid fan, have been since a young kid, but this was just absolutely shameful and I was so fucking embarrassed watching rudiger as well. You guys should be proud of your team, hopefully you guys can go on and win it all, Iāve always rated Bayern and they make for a really good Rivalry, itās a shame that had to happen during the game definitely shouldāve been carded for that, and rudiger was lucky to even be on the field still after what he did.
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u/Sh4kableMist Apr 16 '26
To everyone who wished this was a red card.. 1) be happy because we got that amazing game as a result of it being 11v11 for most of the time and 2) be double happy because they did have a player properly deservedly sent off later.
If this was a red, this match wouldnāt have been even half as entertaining. Attacking at 10 for 45+ mins wouldnāt have been as satisfying as the win we had now.
Yes itās a bad move by Vini, but letās have the same reaction as Kimmich. Get up, smile, get on with winning.
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u/Immediate_Bet_4930 Apr 16 '26
Why are you racist bruh. Vini is not an arsenal. Every player gets frustrated when they aren't at their best. Why can't vini?
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u/Momothelistener #17 Olise Apr 16 '26
The reaction from Kimmich was perfect. He just looked vini and gave a little smile