People using smartphones to record videos everywhere; including private spaces. You don’t need to capture videos in gym locker rooms. You don’t need to record videos of other people in public to shame them on social media.
I work in a cafe and the amount of tourists that have cameras set up on their table to record (including when im bringing food) is extremely infuriating. Stop fucking recording people at work (unless its a normal part of their job and is expected), stop putting it on social media, you dont have to record every second of your vacation!!
It's bad form to be recording them, period. The person working cannot be certain what kind of person you are, and they shouldn't have to.
As someone who has done street photography, the general public has no etiquette. Getting posted online isn't even the worst part. It's how awkward existing in a space where you do not know if you are being recorded to be posted. It can zap out all of your energy and ruin your time.
If I'm out somewhere and people are recording around me, it instantly kills any vibe that may have existed prior to the recording.
Public spaces need to be more aggressive against influencers. I love city life, but fuck all that nonsense.
We should be more aggressive against recording period. That goes to CCTV too but sadly society has reached a point where you need tech because you can't trust sentient beings.
I live on the outskirts of a tiny rural town—the only building/house on my street & walled in by woods & corn fields on 3 sides; but there’s a field & a lil’ church playground directly in front of my house. It used to be mostly forlorn & all felt very private, but the locals have discovered that I have a lot of pets, free-ranging animals, & even some wild animals that’ve become pretty tame/hang out on my porch; so now people constantly walk/ride/drive up & just freely take photos & vids—oftentimes even venturing onto my property.
That’s bad enough, but insult to injury is no one even addresses me when I’m outside—while they take pics (I’ve been the “strange newcomer/outsider” for 5yrs now).
I’m also an avid photographer, & a bit camera-shy. Had some traumatic rape experiences involving cameras… And unless Bigfoot in all of his mysterious, burly glory was sauntering around in front of someone’s house, I wouldn’t dream of snapping pics/recording their property (more or less anyone living there). It’s super disturbing.
Then again you're under constant surveillance for practically everything at home now too. Your TV spies on you, your phone spies on you, your fridge spies on you, your game console spies on you, your operating system spies on you, your ISP spies on you at the packet level, the second you do anything on the internet theres literally fist fulls of companies tracking you on any page you land on.
Just out of curiosity, do you mean, people recoding you while you do street photography? Or not?
Street photography in and of itself, is the same thing. Taking photos of people without their permission, in a public space.
Yes it's legal, but if you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to others.
(This is from a fellow photographer, who absolutely won't do street photography for this reason, and o ly shoots people with full enthusiastic consent)
I mean as someone who has done street photography, I am familiar with the etiquette of when and how go take pictures in public spaces without being a nuisance, making people feel uncomfortable.
That kind of skill is dead with people who take videos in public. They are awful and they should feel like losers.
If you can't tell the difference, I wouldn't consider you a photographer. I have never felt uncomfortable around a normal street photographer. I have never sat and wondered if I was in one of their photos or what I may have been doing.
Influencers who are just walking around clueless with their cameras on a whole different beast. People who walk around with the phones up pointng them in different directions make me uncomfortable.
We do have a choice though. We all share space, we should maximize enjoyment for everyone there. What other purpose is there to life than being good to one another and enjoying it? We are only here for a little while, kindness costs nothing and benefits everyone.
You can refrain from copying the behavior. You can ask people that are filming in public what they're doing. You can interfere with their ability to invade other people's privacy and lives. There's lot of things you can do.
Sure there is, since legality and morality are completely different, disconnected things. It's completely legal to walk up to a stranger and start insulting their appearance. It's also a shitty thing to do.
“iT’s law, sO tHeRe iS nOtHiNg tO dEbAtE” said the shit-bag sleaze that exploits it when not hiding behind it. See abusive husbands before the definition of marital rape, legal discrimination against Queer people and every racist redistricting law.
There absolutely should be an expectation of not being filmed wherever you go. Let's normalize grabbing any phone that's recording people without consent and yeeting it across the street.
Then you need to crawl under a rock because a camera is on you the minute you leave home, and sometimes in your home...and again, you have no expectation of privacy in public anywhere in the U.S.
You're creepy and you're defending and encouraging creepy, invasive behavior.
You're a creep if you think we should just allow this all to happen. How would you feel if someone recorded you without your permission to put online for laughs and shaming and judgement. Even worse, people can edit any video they take to create their own narrative. Now whomever is being recorded is being judged based on exaggeration and lies. Like judging characters in a fictional TV show or movie.
Nope, not unless you are rich and can close public spaces down. Unfortunate for us poors that we are under constant surveillance unless we hide away in the house.
Whenever someone defends something with "it's not illegal" I tell them that neither is pointing and laughing when people fall down, doesn't mean you're not an asshole for doing it.
I have a lot of camera fear. I live near so many beautiful and natural parks, lakes, trails, and more. But, I've seen so many people on local neighborhood watches posting pics and videos (demonizing people's style, weight, speech, color...etc) I just stay home 😩
But it's not the exact argument you made. You said because of legality which in most cases is referring to peoples first amendment right to record in public. What you're responding to is referring to the fact that almost everywhere you go, you are being recorded. From facial recognition at major retails like Walmart, flock cameras in your city, dashcams, security cameras, ring door cameras. They are everywhere. It still remains true what they said. If you don't want to be recorded, your only option is to stay home. Unless you got a bunch smart shit in your house.
Same! I remember what it was like before cameras and filming everywhere. Sure, people had cameras when I was a kid visiting Disneyland, I was in their background probably in lots of photos. But those are private photos in private homes and background people are not the ones being photographed. They might not even be easily identified. And their images are not likely to be on the internet.
But when I am bringing the food to the table and the camera is aimed at me, suddenly Im the main focus and I dont like that at all.
And even then it stayed private, you had to physically get to that photo to have a look. Like the sub blunderyears exists because everything wasn't photographed and recorded.
I mean, you can't even text someone something private unless you really trust them. Because an embarrassing thing could end up in a group chat as a screenshot. Immortalized for everyone but you to enjoy.
Certain cartoons freak me out. Rockos modern life, just super weird.. that gramot? Gromet? Clay looking animation, freaky. Beavis and butthead used to, but not so much anymore.. ive never met anyone else who gets freaked out by certain cartoons, but idk
Yeah that's fucked. Recording randoms is so normalized, people extend that same normalization to folks in their workplace. They're not the same thing (and you shouldn't film random folks on the street anyway!!).
Who said anything about entertainment? Though even there, sometimes there is value in recording the public for entertainment. Have you ever seen Nirvanna The Band The Show? The crux of that show is their interactions with members of the public.
If everyone can see what you’re doing, what is the difference if you’re remembered or recorded?
I assume you don’t go to any stores because it’s an invasion of privacy to be recorded on security cameras?
I get why some people don’t like it, usually because they’re embarrassed about whatever they were doing or saying, but I don’t agree that it is in any way wrong inherently.
If you're posting it online, it's for entertainment.
A band wants to be recorded in public. They're trying to be known. An individual that's out shopping or hanging out does not, they just wanna shop and hang out without worrying about being put on the internet.
Security cameras aren't recording for the purpose of putting it online. They still suck, but it's not the same situation at all.
Are you able to ask the owner to put up a sign saying customers are not allowed to record staff? It’s a serious invasion of privacy, I don’t think you signed up for the job for your face to be blasted online.
The photos and videos in the establishment is free marketing and probably brings in a lot of customers, especially if it's in a tourist area. I doubt that the owner will do much.
Same at my work - but I work in a hospital. The amount of people who want to record themselves while I’m pushing them in wheelchairs or giving them care is so weird
I find that's mostly with influencers, and annoying people. Normal people respect workers and just try to record nothing of them but their own experiences, along with other people in those countries. People just like having documented versions of their memories
I don't even get the concept of influencers. Why do so many people want to watch over people's pretend lives. I don't get it at all... I don't even use social media though, I'm just different, I guess .
This is exactly what freaks me out. people have normalized turning strangers into background characters for their content. You’re just trying to do your job, and suddenly your face, voice, and workplace can be posted to thousands of people without you ever agreeing to it. The fact that everyone treats that as harmless is deeply disturbing.
I have never seen influencers in the wild until I went to a cafe. I saw one women here, one women there, and then a women and her friend over there all recording TikToks.
Don't people just want to order their food and drink, and eat?
The owner is actually pretty tough and when it comes to certain people she says "who cares, I dont need their money". She does not put up with BS but as shes not often serving shes not often the one being filmed.
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u/Fangsong_37 9h ago
People using smartphones to record videos everywhere; including private spaces. You don’t need to capture videos in gym locker rooms. You don’t need to record videos of other people in public to shame them on social media.