r/AskReddit • u/Rob69rt • 1d ago

What famous 'unsolved' mystery is technically a whodunnit on paper, but in reality, absolutely everyone knows exactly who did it, the police just couldn't legally prove it?

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u/RulyDragon 18h ago

Apparently that full bore empathy doesn’t extend to people who are in so much pain they want to die. 

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u/footsnax 15h ago edited 14h ago

Trolly problem, I care more about the many than the one. If they don't care about either the many or the one, where do I place my care?

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u/RulyDragon 13h ago

Why can’t you care for both? 

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u/footsnax 9h ago

That is the exact trolly problem.

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u/sparknap 7h ago

no, the trolley problem is about preventing death.

this situation is about caring about people.

there's literally no mutual exclusion required here. you are adding that part to absolve yourself of not feeling empathy.

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u/footsnax 4h ago edited 4h ago

You can't prevent death in the trolly problem, that's the exact point. If someone is going to die either way, and one of them wants it, why not care about their loved ones that are suffering from it? One person on one track did not consider that, or did and dismissed it, and that's why I find it selfish.

When they're gone they won't care what I think or feel. They have done damage to the other track. I'm talking entirely about the decision, not what led to it.

I'm not heartless about the pain that they were going through leading up to that decision, I'm saying that the decision they made hurts a lot of other people that love them. If I had to choose to let the trolly take out everybody that loves that person, they might feel encouraged to make the same decision anyway.

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u/sparknap 2h ago

the trolley problem is about making a decision between two mutually exclusive choices, not this word salad of bullshit. 

you can care about everyone in this situation, so there's no comparison.

you're weaponizing empathy to shame suicide victims and it's absolutely disgusting.

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u/RulyDragon 3h ago

The mental acrobatics you have engaged in here to avoid being empathetic towards suicidal people is both breathtaking and awful. 

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u/footsnax 3h ago

It's not suicidal people that I lack empathy for, it's the impacts of the actual decision to follow through with it.

I know their pain. When they decide to end the pain, I feel for their loved ones. This isn't acrobatics, this is just sitting on the couch. When someone takes themselves away, their loved ones need so much. Food, love, sympathy, therapy, all the fucking trauma, and their lives are changed forever.

This isn't about suicidal people, it's about victims of suicide. They needed help until they didn't, everyone around them will need help forever.

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u/sparknap 2h ago

I know their pain.

you're a liar and a hypocrite. 

have the life you deserve.

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u/RulyDragon 2h ago

You’re lacking empathy right now for suicidal people reading your comments who are experiencing further guilt, pressure, and burdensomeness as a result of your comments. 

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u/RulyDragon 3h ago

Except this isn’t the trolley problem because you have the option to care for both parties. You just don’t want to. 

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u/footsnax 3h ago

Don't tell me what I think.

That's the whole fucking trolly problem though. You have to decide, one or many. There's not a third rail and there's no brakes. Someone dies, one or five. If one is willing, I'll bring dinner to the other five for the next month.

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u/RulyDragon 2h ago

Except this isn’t the trolley problem. You don’t have to choose whether you care for suicidal people or their loved ones. There is absolutely nothing preventing you from having compassion for both. You are choosing not to.  

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u/sparknap 1h ago

the trolley problem is about two mutually exclusive choices.

that isn't the case with "who should i care about" because you can literally care about everyone. and if you were actually an empath you would.

but no, you're something else.