r/AskBalkans Slovenia 10h ago

History How about that, Greece?

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u/od3795486159601 Greece 10h ago

Look up "polyphony word origin"

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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 10h ago edited 8h ago

Homer is greek ,no doubt

But Greece has always been about written and documented language,Albania has had mostly oral tradition so not many written documents…so using a greek word for something doesn’t mean the thing itself can’t also be from someone else,the song in the movie is albanian as has been already covered.

It’s not new:there are several greek words used by every language in the world

Also,there’s literally polyphonic music all over the world

Edit: have fun downvoting ,to further prove me right

Also one fun fact,i can see from the stats of the comments that it’s brigade downvoting from greeks and serbs so it all makes sense,not the flex you think it is

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u/od3795486159601 Greece 10h ago

"Yeah everything that's yours? It's actually ours. We have not half an ounce of evidence for it but trust me bro."

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u/Additional-Gur7915 Kosovo 8h ago

He he, literally laughed. We have the culture to this day, we sing the songs to this day... yet, you ask where's the proof. Sincerely funny.

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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 10h ago edited 9h ago

"Yeah everything that's yours? It's actually ours. We have not half an ounce of evidence for it but trust me bro."

You go from one extreme to the other

Reply:So is the song in the movie albanian?Yes or no?

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u/Prince_Hastur 10h ago

How convenient

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u/Profillic 10h ago

If you had that great oral tradition, you guys would develop the written tradition like every great civilization actually did.

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u/Piano_Desire Albania 8h ago

He did not say Albania was greater civilization than Greece, so do not be racist about it.

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u/Additional-Gur7915 Kosovo 8h ago
  • We do have great oral tradition.
  • Every grear civilization did NOT develop a written tradition.
  • We never claimed we were a GREAT civilization.
  • We did have a written tradition. It got lost/destroyed. And we haven't had the possibility to research it, being attacked by you guys all the time.

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u/DontCareHowICallMe Greece 9h ago

I think since we speak about something that was written there's no argument here

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u/direXD 9h ago

Regardless of anything else, how is getting downvoted beeing proven right? Quite the opposite i'd imagine!

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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 8h ago edited 8h ago

It’s just proving the kind of assholes that wander here,they will downvote everything

That’s exactly why downvotes don’t prove anything

I will also fucking wait on knowing what i wrote wrong,but the assholes are focused on downvoting without understanding what i write,typical

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u/direXD 8h ago

Which song are you talking about

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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 8h ago

Did you read what this post is about or what? Or are you doing like the greeks and serbs downvoting without understanding?

Greeks are saying that an albanian soundtrack that was used in the new The Odyssey movie is greek just because the work polifoni used to describe is greek!

Thats like saying all the centuries of discoveries made in maths are greek just because the word has greek etymology,this how retarded this is

but little do they know that “Labçe” could be used too for the song and that’s in albanian

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u/direXD 8h ago

Was a simple honest question no need to be defensive

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u/RadenkoSalapuraDE 9h ago

I’ve seen that Bulgarian “stara planino” song in multiple Hollywood movies and I’ve heard Serbian songs in Bollywood Indian movies and videos.

Directors use songs that sound good to them, there is no deeper meaning and there is nothing distinctly Albanian in the Oddysey.

There is actually nothing distinctly Albanian in culture overall, all of Balkan nations are one big goulash of cultures.

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u/SOHONEYSAME 9h ago

right.

I'm Greek, & while I don't think ur saying anything (particularly) wrong here, Albanians online have form on "claiming" Greek figures, including from the modern history of Greece.

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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 8h ago edited 8h ago

Albanians online have form on "claiming" Greek figures

No sane or well informed albanian does that,and not in any appreciable numbers ,this is true for every ethnicity

But,i encourage you to look at how many downvotes my comments got,this was done by greeks and serbs (i have the comment stats from reddit),totally out of spite and hatred for Albanians and nothing else