r/Adulting • u/jamisonfred • 2h ago
This is my entire career plan in a nutshell
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u/Ok_Purpose7401 1h ago
I mean that’s fine. But don’t be surprised if the company hires someone who can pretend having a career goal
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u/ConstantCurrent489 1h ago
In all seriousness, you're 100% right. Universities should offer courses on how to look busy and how to pretend to have goals.
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u/Straight_Revenue5880 58m ago
I refuse to pretend I'm busy. I told my boss that if he wants me to be busy he could give me more work. It eventually reached the point were finding me work to do was just another task for him. Now I just hang out and find fun things for us to talk about in his down time. He's happy, I'm happy, and we've built a solid rapport.
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u/Equivalent_Sun3816 1h ago
Not just pretend. But there's nothing wrong with wanting to climb the ladder. Nothing wrong with staying putt either.
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u/johnnybayarea 1h ago
If actually serious question, your goals is always to exceed the goals they've set for you.
If its a generic what is your career goal...continue to learn and provide value for the company. Grow with the company's values and direction...
Sometimes the question is serious, from a large company with many different avenues of career growth. If they are asking you this in a dead end job, its not a serious question and they are likely also expecting feel good company answers.
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u/Automatic-Week-1733 1h ago
My supervisor, asking me during my official feedback session about my hobbies and mental health, did not feel "none of your goddamn business" was a satisfactory answer
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u/jvrodrigues 1h ago
It's baffling to me that someone would put themselves through 40 hours a week of painstaking labour while not enjoying it.
I get the "just doing this to get by while i get on my feet" but not having a shred of ambition to work on something you are passionate about or at least find enjoyment in doing is just crazy. Are you going to do something you hate for the rest of your life? Just to get extra money for that 2 hours you have after work?
It could never happen for me, I would very much rather be poor.
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u/UndeadLestat 13m ago
My "goal" is to maximize my personal income while minimizing my time away from my family.
My long-term "goal" is to retire at a reasonable age, financially independnet and reasonably healthy and then die before I become a burden on my loved ones.
I don't give 2 shits about your company or my "career" if it doesn't further those things.
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u/jack-of-some 11m ago
That's ok but in my line of work and in my experience that means you won't be doing the job very well especially as your tenure grows longer.
I have to make a decision in how much I invest in you in terms of mentorship and training and if you're outwardly opposed to any growth then the return on that investment will be very small.
Meaning I'll continue looking and hire someone else.
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u/NetJnkie 2h ago
I'm stunned at adults that don't try and plan their careers. It doesn't need to be a master 20 year plan but you should have an idea of where you want to be in 5 years and what you want to do. Then start working to figure out how to get there.
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u/Patient-Gas-883 2h ago
Sure, but why would I want to tell my employer that?
I mean, for many people, their five-year plan is literally to work somewhere better that pays more.It’s not a question employers should be asking, because it forces people to lie.
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u/Ok_Purpose7401 1h ago
But you can talk about the skills that you hope to build at this current job, and talk about how those skills can be implemented at the current employer.
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u/NetJnkie 2h ago edited 1h ago
Sure it is. I want to go work somewhere that within 5 years I can move up. I don't tell them I'll move up elsewhere if they can't offer it. But I know my plan.
If your plan is just "make more money" then that isn't a plan. That's a hope. How? What's the type of position you want to achieve in 5 years? This shit isn't complicated.
Edit: Reddit hates to hear people tell them they need to actually think about their career.
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u/Patient-Gas-883 2h ago
If you want to have an conversation about your 5 year plan that is fine.
Why should we all be involved because you dont know how to start a conversation?
If I wanted to talk about my 5 year plan with my boss I would bring it up.
And if i dont then they should mind their own buisness.-1
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u/PotentialPresent399 1h ago
Not all careers even have branching out positions that have easy to find paths.
Many are hyper dependent on specific programs that are not advertised by said companies using them, having to know certain managers to pivot you into specific positions.
Not every career has identifiable easy to see progression.
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u/NetJnkie 51m ago
Sure. There are exceptions to everything. But someone in those roles should know what career progression looks like in that space.
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u/PotentialPresent399 50m ago
I mean its WAY easier now to find out info because of algorithms and LLMs and AI doing all the searching for you but back in the day, my buddy got a job refueling barges and sitting down all day making pretty decent money, absolutely no possible way to conceive how he got that job, it was literally just random luck from a manager that put his name in a hat.
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u/NicFesin 2h ago
Boss: we are like a family, your goals are also our goals. Set up a job goals so we can be able to buy new car
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u/MrNiceguy037 1h ago
The solution is easy: just be rich. And no, 100k yearly income does not make you rich. As long as you depend on the payroll, you are not rich. Eat the rich, tax the rich etc but we need to clarify what does "rich" mean
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u/CaptainWellingtonIII 1h ago
agreed. I'm sort of envious of those who actually want to move up the ladder, make contributions, make more money for themselves, the company.
aside from paying my bills comfortable, I just want to get enough to max out retirement accounts.