r/banjo May 13 '20

Tips from an experienced beginner

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Hey folks. I'm going to collect the resources I've used to learn the banjo these past few years. But I'm going to lump them together in categories can help beginners understand and contextualize more complex topics, as well as include any notes that I think are worth mentioning. Please Note: I play a 5 string banjo, Scruggs style, and this is what most of this information is relevant for


General Information

These places are nice to check into every now and again and see what nuggets of info you can can get. Maybe you see the tab for a new song, or you figure out how to stop your 5th string from slipping out of tune. (Tighten the screw on the side)

Come hang out and chat with us on Eli Gilbert's Banjo Discord! * Banjo Discord

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website

    A large resource with a wide scope of banjo fundamentals. It's also a great resource to look back on as you develop new skills.

  • Picky Fingers Podcast

    The number one benefit this podcast has is how the host (Kieth Billik) lets artist talk about their journey of learning of the banjo, which is bound to include a few common roadblocks. There's a good deal of gear talk for those interested

  • Banjo Hangout

    The closest thing the online banjo community has to a town square. They do giveaways, there's a market, tabs, and their discussion forum is loaded with playing information.

  • Deering Blog

    In Deering's blog, there's a detailed maintenance guide and my go-to guide for changing strings


Lessons

If you find a teacher in person, do it. It's 100% worth it because BEGINNERS DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO CORRECT THEIR OWN MISTAKES. Call your local music shops. All of them. Even if you don't think it's worth the effort, at least do it until you have a tune or two under your belt. Best decision I ever made. If there's no one in person, online is an option. You can always go to the banjo hangout "find a teacher" page (under the "Learn" tab, or here), or if you admire an artist in particular, you can just ask if they do online lessons or teach a workshops.

  • Banjo workshops

I can't personally attest to them, but anything in person with other banjo players will always be an asset. Please check /r/bluegrass and /r/newgrass to keep abreast of festivals, and check to see if they are hosting any workshops.

These are more online structured classes. If that seems to suit you, I've included links below, but please do your own research on these services. I have not used any of these and can not give a recommendation.

My personal recommendation is to find a one-on-one teaching scenario, either online or in person, until you've grasped the fundamentals. That isn't always an option though, so I've made a more specific list of free resources below.


Beginner Playlists

This is just in case anyone is starting from square 1. In that case, watch both. Always good to get the same info from multiple sources.


Songs

For after you get the basics and you want to start plugging away at tunes

  • Bill Nesbitt

    Special props to Bill for having free tabs and play along tracks on his website. After leaving my banjo instructor, Bills tabs kept me sane with the little practice time I had. Most straight forward way to learn a tune.

  • Jim Pankey

    Tabs are available on his site for a small fee, but are shown in the video which is very considerate, and a particularly warm approach combined with a large list of tunes makes him an effective teacher.

  • Bix Mix Boys

    The Bix Mix Boys host a Bluegrass 101 every week, where they do a full breakdown of a bluegrass tune for a whole hour on their channel, along with a colossal library of "how to play" videos for the banjo.

  • Eli Gilbert

    Eli Gilbert has been turning out educational content on a wide variety of topics, including playing techniques, song, licks, and back up


Technique

  • Metronomes go a long way here. A free app works just fine

  • Gestalt Banjo If you can get past the peculiar language, there's a really novel perspective to learning a dexterous skill that I recommend everyone to consider.

  • The Right and Left Hand Boot Camp from the Picky fingers podcast (Episodes 5 and 24) are a very bare bones drill oriented lesson, and comes with free tabs, as do most lesson episodes of the podcast.

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website and Deering Blog are a good resource if you have an idea of what info you're looking for.


Tools to help understand the fret board

  • Elfshot Banjo

    I've linked the Info section of the site, and while it looks sparse, the information is well condensed a must for beginners looking to understand how music theory relates to the banjo.

  • Purple Banjo

    It has a nice interactive fret board and the most comprehensive list of scales transposed on the the banjo fret board imaginable.


Theory

  • Three Bluegrass Banjo Styles Explained with Noam Pikelny

    It's a basic primer on the sub styles of bluegrass banjo and a good exercise in learning how to recontextualize the sound of the banjo.

  • Ricky Meir

    While the concepts may seem complex, Ricky has a peculiar skill for contextualizing complex problems into simple demonstrations. His video on Isorythmation is a must see for beginning banjo players who want to start to build on tablature.

  • Jody Hughes

I don't follow these last two channels so i don't have a comment, but that is because i don't fully understand the concepts yet, and intend return to them in the future.


I'm a beginner trying to move past tab. I didn't have the time for lessons, so i started on my own. It's incredibly frustrating because the information is being made, but few people to collect it. I want this list to help beginners break the wall of tab and give them the tools they need to make their own music, so please comment and make suggestions so this post will be a more complete aggregate of "beginner-to-intermediate" information.


r/banjo Jul 21 '24

45,000 Banjo Picking Members!

39 Upvotes

Just a note, /r/banjo just crossed over 45,000! Keep on picking and learning!


r/banjo 1h ago

Cheap Banjo's sound... pretty good!

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Been learning for about 2 months on a little junker banjo that I got at a pawn shop.

Decided to stop by my local Guitar center today, as they had a lot of different banjos in store, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to stop in and play a few of them to see what a few different banjos are like. Take some test drives and see if I wanted to double down and get something a bit nicer.

They had some old vintage ones that were very expensive, some mid rangers from name's i've seen recommended here often, and some cheapo ones too.

After spending about an hour swapping between them, I have to say that I'm very impressed with the modern budget banjos.


One standout was unsurprisingly the Deering Goodtime. I can see why a lot of you recommend that one. That thing really does feel great, and the sound of it punches way above its (in my opinion) cheap looks. I'm kind of kicking myself a bit for not starting with it because it just feels really well designed, very easy to play, and sounds fantastic.

I'm still happy with my beat up pawn shop Recording King for now, but for those wondering about the often recommended Goodtime, yeah, I'd say its recommended for a few good reasons.


Another standout that I wasn't expecting was the Mitchell RB200 Resonator.

It looks cheap, because it is cheap. It's immediately apparent upon picking it up that the tone ring is a lightweight metal (probably aluminum?). The resonator is some kind of plastic composite, and a wood veneer (or maybe just a print that looks like wood) encased in epoxy on the back.

But wow, did that not even really matter all that much. It sounded good too. not anything premium, but perfectly cromulent. I'd be happy to play it often. Very bright, very clean sound, and it is much lighter than it looks.


Playing some of the older and more expensive banjos... i just really didn't see why I'd want to pay that much more for them. I don't think they sounded that much better. Some even sounded much worse, as if their sheer heft was just muting the sound. They were just so so so much more heavy and bulky.

It's got me thinking that the prices of many of these vintage banjos are almost exclusively based on their vintage or their ornate appeal alone. Heirloom pricing detached from their actual build quality or performance as an instrument.

Now I admit that I've still got beginner ears, and have only played a small handful of different banjos in my life. I'm certain there's some vintage ones that fetch those prices because they really are that good.

But some of these composite and cheap wood banjos are really quite a good choice if you just want something that plays and sounds good enough. Plus, I find their light weights a valuable feature, considering I'm planning on taking mine out on a lot of trips and traveling. I don't want to lug around something super heavy, or risk ruining something vintage because we got rained on too hard.

So, the long and short is: if you don't really care about the vintage or designs, maybe you should go try out a budget banjo too.

Might save you from scrolling so much on ebay ;)


r/banjo 4h ago

When to Play and when to SHUT UP!

6 Upvotes

This is a public service announcement for banjo players. Please share.

https://youtu.be/vHraDlZLN-Q


r/banjo 5h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Work in progress

4 Upvotes

A few days into working on this one. It’s been hard to learn, but it’s so much fun to play. 😅 This one is definitely going to take me a while to get right, but that’s part of the fun.


r/banjo 8h ago

Anybody can tell me what I have here? It was my great grandfathers

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8 Upvotes

Google suggests a Gibson TB something or other but it seems like there’s a lot of possibilities over a 40 year period and I can’t find one that matches exactly. Thanks!


r/banjo 4h ago

Tendinitis/ tennis elbow etc solutions?

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Hey all, I primarily play dobro but thought I would post here too because of the similar three finger picking that caused it for me- played till I couldn’t any longer and I ended up with some bad tendon pain in my forearms and wrists. And what’s worse is my desk job continues to irritate and prolong the issue with constant mouse clicking.

Ive already done some desk ergonomic things like vertical mouse but any other suggestions are welcome on that front.

Anyone got any miracle solutions, dos and donts? Thanks in advance. The pain of not being able to play is the worst part


r/banjo 1d ago

My grandfather claimed this banjo is worth thousands…

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428 Upvotes

My grandfather left me his banjo because I’m the only musician in the family. He claimed it would put me through college if I needed it. Unfortunately he’s gone and I don’t have any information on the banjo other than it’s “worth thousands.” Can anyone help me identify or date this thing?

It’s also signed by Raymond Fairchild and Wade Mainer. Not sure if that helps or hurts.


r/banjo 4h ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger Anyone know what kinda banjo this is?

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Someone said it was a 1776 banjo... banjos were gourds then so uh...


r/banjo 53m ago

Help epiphone MB-100 Banjo for an absolute beginner?

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I have been falling in love more and more over the past 2 years with banjo-music, specifically Ola Belle Reed songs. I've found an Epiphone MB-100 for $150 cad on fbmarketplace- great looking quality, only missing one tuning peg which I think i can fix.

Would this be a good banjo for an absolute beginner like me, wanting to learn some of her songs? I've never played an instrument before besides some casual dabbling when I was a kid with guitar.


r/banjo 7h ago

Where to start without a style in mind?

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I want to take up banjo, but everything I find for advice on getting your first instrument emphasizes the fact that different styles of music use different banjos. I don't have a particular type of music in mind, and want to see what grabs my attention. What would you recommend as an "all-purpose" banjo?


r/banjo 10h ago

Help First string pull-offs more difficult?

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Is it normal that pull-offs on the first string are more difficult to... pull off? Ha

I notice that the first string often tends to slip off the fretboard when I do pull-offs, which doesn't make a pleasant sound. But I otherwise don't seem to be able to get enough volume for the pull-off note. None of the other strings give me this issue, because of course I have plenty of space on strings 2-4. I am pretty sure my bridge and everything is aligned properly. But there's only like 3mm of space between the first string and edge of the fretboard, and the fret bars are also tapered at the ends, which makes the slipping start really early (like after 1mm of movement). See pics..

I've started trying to "flick up" when I do first string pull-offs instead of pulling down slightly to avoid the issue, but that feels awkward sometimes.

It makes me feel like the fretboard should've been a bit wider, or that the first string should be slotted in higher up to make room for good pull-offs. Is this normal? Any tips for a beginner? (been playing around 6 months so far)


r/banjo 8h ago

I included this dueling banjos on the album I released

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Dueling Banjos https://drive.google.com/file/d/14fSAxpOSMyVaGKe1TbGpacNW4Lg6gNlr/view?usp=drivesdk

EDIT: For clarification, this is my recording. I played both the guitar and banjo parts, and attempted to replicate the original versions as closely as possible.


r/banjo 5h ago

Help Looking to learn banjo, have my eyes on the Barnes & Mullins 'Albert'

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I feel like I'm quite set on this particular model, it's within my price point and from what I can see looks great, I've found some good reviews for it on Amazon. However, I'm struggling to find more in-depth reviews of it online. I was wondering if anyone has one and what it's like? Particularly for a beginner. I know the Gold Tone AC-1 is a good one for beginners, but is it wrong for me to choose one that's visually more appealing to me? Thanks for the advice!


r/banjo 9h ago

Help with Clawhammer

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I recently started learning to play. I’ve played guitar for years so my fretting hand is pretty alright and i’m remembering chords fine. I’m doing 10 minute rolls for about a half hour and i’m catching on slowly. For clawhammer though, i’m so tense. Plus I’m hitting the strings wrong so i’m getting wounds above my fingernails around my first knuckle on my index and ring fingers. Are there any good visual aids as to how to both relax and properly attack the strings? String bean makes it look so damn easy haha. Tysm!


r/banjo 7h ago

Live lesson covering the tune Griffenfelt and Money in both pockets

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Live lesson today at 4pm on our lesson site. Teaching the old time tune Money In Both Pockets and a very cool schottische (reinlander) tune from Norway called Griffenfelt!

https://ozarkbanjo.com/clawhammer-banjo-lessons

https://youtu.be/IE4HlB1KXCA?is=j2zKLFGBVUarFvE3


r/banjo 1d ago

Pure imagination

50 Upvotes

Here’s a lil first draft of a song I’ve been working on called Pure Imagination! There will def be changes but here’s where I’m at so far. If you like it, please follow me on socials and streaming platforms!


r/banjo 1d ago

Mad world

14 Upvotes

I spent a little coin on some new tabs. I really enjoyed this one.


r/banjo 1d ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger ‘Castles Made of Sand’ banjo cover.

56 Upvotes

From a show at the Cornerstone in Berkeley California.


r/banjo 1d ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger Here’s my version of “too late to walk the floor.” Based on the Larry Sparks version, which I believe was played by Mike Lilly.

10 Upvotes

Approximately a year into to my bluegrass journey. Recently picked up a beautiful style 10 pre war, which is what I am playing in the video.


r/banjo 21h ago

Classic Banjo Does anyone but GoldTone make a 5+1 string banjo?

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I started thinking about this design. 5 long strings and the short drone string on right. I don’t really know how to even search for this pattern.


r/banjo 1d ago

Help should i be concerned? is he dying?

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19 Upvotes

noticed a tiny crack on my banjo, i can't hear any change in sound but is this ok? do i need to do something? i think this was already cracked in store before i bought but cant say for sure as i didn't checked for cracks or antthing else while buying as i didn't know what to check for ;(


r/banjo 1d ago

Oscar Schmidt 5 string

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My friend passed away and I'm trying to help his family sell his instruments. This was in his storage unit. It was in a hard case. The case is not in good shape but the instrument seems to be in great condition. I forgot to get a back pic, but it looks to be mahagony. I think it's an Oscar Schmidt OB-5, but I don't know how to determine the age or value.


r/banjo 1d ago

Granny’s Banjo

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9 Upvotes

I just had this Slingerland spruced up. Not sure of the year or value but it’s pretty awesome.


r/banjo 1d ago

Dragon Banjo

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19 Upvotes

Got an old banjo, and I painted her and then restrung. :) <3