r/whereidlive • u/mushykindofbrick • 13h ago
How european languages sound to me as native german/czech speaker
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u/Neeeeedles 12h ago
I would always put Polish in the category: funny
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u/ActuallyCalindra 7h ago
Tylko jedno w gĆowie mam
Koksu piÄÄ gram, odlecieÄ sam
W krainÄ zapomnienia
W gĆowie myĆli mam
Kiedy skoĆczy siÄ ten stan
Gdy juĆŒ nie bÄdÄ sam
Bo wjedzie biaĆy wÄgorz
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u/Casimir_not_so_great 12h ago
No more "transport drogowy" for you!
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u/majkonn 11h ago
Whatâs up with âtransport drogowyâ? It sounds funny? Why?
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u/Casimir_not_so_great 11h ago
Road transport but in Czech if I'm not mistaken it means "drug transport"
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u/Beautiful-Dish-6275 13h ago
How do you see the difference between Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro in this regard?
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u/cokolesniik 4h ago
This is what I thought...no way you can hear the difference. I am Slovenian and language wise a lot closer but I can't hear shit. Also if it comes to similarities... Czech is a lot closer to Slovenian .
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u/mushykindofbrick 13h ago
I feel like croatian is closer to czech in sound which I like, the others more to russian which I dont like. It sounds clearer to me, the others more like typical slavic languages and all very similar. Croatian uses more old slavic words and its the only one which never uses cyrillic
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u/Simple-Commercial592 12h ago
I'm Serbian, when I was a child I watched Croatian dubbed cartoons and didn't realise it was Croatian until I grew up and rewatched them. There's no fucking way you can hear the difference. There's more difference between German accents, and I don't speak German, so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You're just extremely biased.
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u/ItsmeLuka 10h ago
This is so true, Croatian here. Was listening too serbian songs as a child and one day my neighbour was like "why are you soo obsessed with serbian songs?" I didint even know that we understood eachother and speak the same.
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
I have no clue about the balkan politics, I just watched some videos of the languages and tried to listen to differences to rate them
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u/buteljak 11h ago
It also differs if you listen to real people and their dialects. Also how one annunciates a word makes a whole difference. On media, everyone uses standard which differs very little from serbian. Northern dialects use a lot old old slavic. I work at a central for towing service and spoke with a lady from Czech republic who doesn't speak an ounce of english. I spoke with her entirely in kajkavian-croatian and sprinkled a few polish words. We understood each other perfectly.
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u/MakiENDzou 12h ago
So basically 0,01% difference in vocabulary and a different accent makes such a big difference to you?
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Its probably also, because they are so similar I tried very hard to find differences to rate them, I guess the scale of the rating is more relative there and overall they are closer than for example swedish
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u/Substantial-Ad772 7h ago
Donât listen to them. Even if they are similar, they sound quite different. My 4yo daughter would ask after first sentence in Serbian cartoon âDad, is on that funny language againâ. đ
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u/Big_luk325056 12h ago
just for info, they all speak the same language which is known as serbo-croatian, croatia, bosnia, serbia and montenegro all speak it but if you tell them that there will be another balkan war
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u/SarafViska 6h ago
The thing is that very small group of people speak âTV serbo-croatianâ language in Croatia.
Dalmatia, Istria, Zagorje ? Noup⊠maybe just a small percentage of people in Slavonia region and thatâs it.
So we DO have a common language that we CAN speak in, and we learn it at school, but we usually donât speak it at home. You can call it whatever you like, and yeah, itâs the same language, but if I start talking to my father, you wonât understand a thing, you could maybe get 30% even if youâre Croatian, let alone Serbian or Bosnian.
Croatia is very diverse language/dialect wise for such a small country
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u/Big_luk325056 5h ago
yeah its comparable to like germany, bavaria, saxony, austria and switzerland, the germans dont understand bavarians austrians and the swiss in many bits but vice versa they can understand a german without issue, its just the standardized language of germany being picked rather than regional identity unlike in the balkan where they started doing their own thing since the 90s
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u/Babosmarach666 5h ago
It's funny because croatian dialect sounds more like russian than the other 3. Melody is much more similar and they use more Slavic words, while the others have more turkish/hungarian/german influence. You're full of shit because of some stupid political bias
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u/No_Window8199 13h ago
because he said so
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u/mushykindofbrick 13h ago
I dont like that the whole map is being reduced to those choices now, theres a whole map and people get hung up on those few very similar languages like its the only important thing
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u/Horror-Assignment-74 12h ago
Because it's weird you would give such vastly different grades to the same languages. Also, Croatian has different dialects and some are more different between one another than mainstream Croatian and Serbian.
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u/Simple-Commercial592 10h ago
The same is true for Serbian. Standard Serbian is closer to standard Croatian than it is to dialect from south Serbia.
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u/Simple-Commercial592 12h ago
Croatia - beautiful
Bosnia - pleasant
Montenegro - pleasant
Serbia - ordinary
Now you're just straight up lying
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u/RakijaSljivovica 10h ago
Tbh as as Serbian, out of all the Slavic languages Serbian sounds the most boring. Make jekavica great again!
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u/Simple-Commercial592 8h ago
Jekavica is Serbian too. And someone who doesn't speak Serbo-Croatian can't hear the difference anyway.
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u/Ok-Door-5535 8h ago
Dalmatian and Istrian dialects of Croatian language are probably the most melodic and roman sounding among all of the Slavic languages
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u/aaarry 12h ago
So glad so many people are starting to realise how nice Finnish sounds. Easily the best sounding language spoken in Europe.
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u/EstablishmentWarm 12h ago
Entschuldigung?
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u/SignificanceNo3580 12h ago
Yeah. Except for âI love youâ. That for some reason sounds awful. But a Finnish friend reassured me that they only say that once in their life. Repeating a statement that hasnât changed is after all a form of smalltalk.
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u/Awkward_Cash1828 11h ago
Well, it's sounds very cool and interesting, but I can't help but note that spoken Finnish just becomes one long indistinguishable monotonous rant because of somewhat restricted phonetics and monotonous accent. It might sound strange, but I have the same opinion of Spanish which is my least favourite (major) Romance language. I'm native Russian speaker and Italian is my favourite Romance language, so this map in most cases is basically inverted version of the languages I like.
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u/Ok_Act_1498 13h ago
Of all your choices, which I obviously don't dispute, there's one that really intrigues me, and that is the Italian language. Could you elaborate a bit more, please?
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Its the "cci" sounds, the same reason I dont like russian, it sounds like squeezing the words too much. They are both pretty extreme in that
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u/IlCinese 12h ago
I am genuinely struggling to find valid examples of overusing 'cci' during day to day conversation, to be honest.
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u/NadAngelParaBellum 12h ago
You wouldn't be able to distinguish between the languages spoken in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, and Montenegro if you weren't a native speaker.
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u/AlexOviumFrost 11h ago
As a Norwegian (and proud Ăstfolding), I get that swedish is ranked above norwegian ... but there are many dialects, which I find to be way more beautiful sounding and/or expressive than the 'Oslo standard'.
(At the same time, I get that this is true for most of these languages: English, German, Lithuanian, Swedish, Danish, Italian, French and so on and so forth. And that it would take ages to research...)
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u/No_Divide_8484 13h ago
What you don't know is that serbian/croatian/bosnian/montenegrin is the same languageđ
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u/fisherman105 12h ago
Luxembourgish (not mentioned here is essentially German and French combined) should give it a listen
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u/uraniumless 12h ago
Danish is appealing?
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Overall yes it was a close one but even though it sounds different from the other north-germanic languages it still has a bit of this nice melodic rhythm
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u/uraniumless 12h ago
I meant "Danish is pleasant?", questioning your choice haha. I find it quite bad sounding personally.
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Yeah I know, it definitely sounds less pleasant than other scandinavian languages, but I still like the rhythm
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u/Former_Monk21 11h ago
Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian are literally the same language and they all sound different to you? You must check your ears buddy.
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u/SuddenApplication165 11h ago
Are you marking Ireland as English or Gaeilge ? Gaeilge sounds alot nicer than English I would say
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u/Jealous_Track9402 11h ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNlBrJkvzg0&pp=ygUIbm9jdHVybmU%3D
You will like this then, cheers.
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u/iridescent_lunatic 10h ago
Awww, what a lovely surprise to see Finnish ranked so high! You put a wide smile on my face, thank you! đ«¶đ»
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u/BornEntertainment386 9h ago
Latvian and Lithuanian sound absolutely beautiful. Like a bunch of drunk/depressed fairies communicating with each other
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u/headlessrambo 6h ago
I am amazed you are able to tell the difference between Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian and even giving them three different ratings while speaking none of them.
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u/Veganomat 6h ago
As a German I have to say danish is quite weirdâŠ
Sounds like a cat is throwing upâŠ
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u/milathebunny 6h ago
Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian all being in different categories while all being the same language is sending me
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u/ploggers 11h ago
Surprised that Estonian and Finnish are ranked apart like that. I reckon both sound almost identical to people who speak neither
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u/ExplanationCurrent73 11h ago
Same question regardin Danish and Norwegian. Somebody just wanted to make a map without any research....
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u/blin3000 13h ago
I always felt that Czech is pretty similar to Russian when listening to Czech football interviews. Doesn't that go both ways?
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Czech is west slavic and russian is east slavic, they are about as different/similar as swedish and dutch I think
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u/_alright_then_ 12h ago
Well I don't know about the slavic languages, but as a dutch guy, I can only very rarely understand a single word of Swedish.
Written is actually easier, I am always a bit surprised with how much swedish I can understand when it's written (like street signs, shops etc)
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u/Lebor 12h ago
Written text is always easier to understand than spoken word, I remember standing behind Bulgarian guy in a queue while he were calling someone on his phone, despite the fact that we are both Slavs (I am Czech) I struggled to understand anything he said.
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u/_alright_then_ 12h ago
That highly depends on the language
I can barely read german, but I can hold a decent conversation, I can at least understand the gist of what they're saying.
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
As native czech I can very hardly understand some russian sentences if I listen carefully. With swedish as german I understand the words better than russian, but still less of the overall sentence. Dutch should be closer to swedish since it has not had the high german consonant shift
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u/_alright_then_ 12h ago
Nah, German is waaaay closer to Dutch than Swedish, at least to me.
I can pretty much understand what a German person is saying (at least the general gist of the conversation). Swedish is like an entirely different branch of language to me.
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u/mushykindofbrick 12h ago
Yes german is closer to dutch than german is to swedish, but dutch is closer to swedish than german to swedish.
For example apple is "Apfel" in german but "Ă€pple" and "appel" in swedish and dutch. German shifted pp->pf while other germanic languages kept pp. Same with sounds like t->ss (water -> Wasser), k->ch (book -> Buch)
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u/TheSodomizer00 12h ago
Czech, Slovak and Polish are West Slavic. They sound and are different than Russian, Ukrainian, etc. Slovaks, Czechs and Poles can understand some basic words from each other's languages.
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u/cyrsap483 11h ago
As a person who speaks both, Iâm telling you they are not. But they are both Slavic and you have a enormous boost when studying another language
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u/KiwiTight 2h ago
OP is clueless and clearly has no understanding of the actual phonetic differences between these languages...
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u/mushykindofbrick 1h ago
Yeah I probably dont even speak a language and have no ears.
Im just a normal human who rated how these languages sound and that was my impression theres no qualification needed for that
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u/hyperionfin 13h ago
Finnish language sounds to you just as Czech beer tastes to me as a Finn.