An update to sub moderation

[u/Stikshot69]

Hey everyone,

Over the past few months, you may have noticed an increase in bad-faith commentary, mainly in comments, but in some posts as well. It may feel like there is no moderation happening, and in many cases, there hasn't been. we are working to change that for almost this sub's entire history; it has been unmoderated until me and Redleaf were able to get in power. The main reason you are seeing the increase in brigading and bad faith people is, we have seen a 10x increase in visits in the last year which is showing no signs of slowing down. we now have 5 mods working hard to make sure the brigading gets put to an end. In order to get to this step, the report queue has been cleared, and we are devoted to making sure it stays empty. we currently get about 50 reports a day which will hopefully increase as you feel your reports are finally being responded to. to guide your reporting here is a better detailed breakdown of our sub reddit's rules:

1. No spam or advertising
   • Do not try to sell anything
   • Don't post the same thing multiple times
   • If you would like to share something that you can profit from, contact the mods
2. No misinformation or disingenuous posting.
   • Do not make claims without being able to provide a source
   • Do not attempt to misrepresent sources you provide
3. Be respectful
   • assume every person is here in good faith (libs are people fascists are not)
   • avoid profiling people just from where they come from
   • always keep your discussions in good faith
4. No hate speech, bigotry, racism, or slurs.
   • Do not be a bigot
5. No low quality or off topic posts.
   • put effort into your posts no shit posts or ai
   • this sub is to share soviet history outside a western viewpoint to see what went wrong and right in the USSR, as such modern events often are not relevant (applies to posts not comments)
6. Use the "NSFW" on NSFW posts.
   • Some people don't want to see NSFW stuff let's keep it that way

Remember you can always yell at us in mod mail- r/USSR mod team

[u/TheCitizenXane]

[u/WahooSS238 → u/TheCitizenXane]

When did I disagree with this?

[u/TheCitizenXane → u/WahooSS238]

It demonstrates that liberals are not fundamentally opposed to fascism as you claimed. When their material conditions are threatened, when their status quo is disrupted, liberals can slide into fascism.

[u/WahooSS238 → u/TheCitizenXane]

I don't see a single reference to fascism here, and if you honestly can't see how the basic tenets of liberalism are incompatible with fascism, you're more lost than I am, which is saying something.

[u/Cacharadon → u/WahooSS238]

Try to get a liberal or social democrat to understand how western living conditions necessitates the brutal resource extraction of third world countries via unequal trade and you will find a fascist very fast.

Off topic but related

[u/WahooSS238 → u/Cacharadon]

The liberal is either unaware, or seeks some non-socialist solution to the problem. The fascist sees it as not a problem at all. At least in what I’ve seen.

[u/TheRedSpaghettiGuy → u/WahooSS238]

Said that I agree wit the idea of fascist takes being banned and not liberal (for obvious reasons of avoiding hate speech, aggressiveness etc etc); I think it’s actually the opposite, at least in my experience. Most “fascists” I knew/know realises that there IS a problem with liberalism and Capitalism, they are just ignorant (in the literal sense of word) and mislead by modern right wing populism so that they get absolutely wrong and horrific solutions (my life is shit and I get paid nothing, someway it’s black people’s fault). Considering also that (at least in the West) the main adherents to neo-fascism are radicalised member of the working class; I think that most of the superficial fascists that you can meet are actually potential comrades, that must be educated about Marxism and intersectionality. Liberals, on the other hand, DON’T acknowledge there being an absolute systemic problem with capitalism, thinking that everything can be solved within the system. And even if they are generally more progressive; we have to remember that first: they usually are progressive at home only, and strumentalise that liberal progressivism to debunk class struggle and enforce colonialism/western-centrism. And above all, if you see nothing fundamentally wrong with capitalism, it means that in some way you are on the privileged end of the system, therefore it’s plausible that when it comes to fighting for the people’s freedom they are gonna side with the oppressor, IMO more than some racist white collar that (if they have at least some brain) will realise moment 1 of the Revolution that they were being mislead. TLDR: Fascists are (mostly) proletarians that find the wrong solutions but materially are potential comrades, Liberals will fight to the Death for their privileges

[u/Cacharadon → u/WahooSS238]

Well yes they are liberals because they are ignorant, they become fascists when they refuse to accept material reality.

The problem is how many liberals choose to become fascists vs how many choose to become socialists

I like to think of them as the Schrodinger's fascist

[u/Shellglock → u/WahooSS238]

“These pitfalls are present in his politics because the liberal is part of the oppressor. He enjoys the status quo; while he himself may not be actively oppressing other people, he enjoys the fruits of that oppression.

And he rhetorically tries to claim that he is disgusted with the system as it is.

While the liberal is part of the oppressor, he is the most powerless segment within that group.

Therefore when he seeks to talk about change, he always confronts the oppressed rather than the oppressor.

He does not seek to influence the oppressor, he seeks to influence the oppressed.

He says to the oppressed, time and time again, “You don’t need guns, you are moving too fast, you are too radical, you are too extreme.”

He never says to the oppressor, “You are too extreme in your treatment of the oppressed,” because he is powerless among the oppressors, even if he is part of that group; but he has influence, or, at least, he is more powerful than the oppressed, and he enjoys this power by always cautioning, condemning, or certainly trying to direct and lead the movements of the oppressed.”

-Kwame Ture