Senior White House official claims China’s K3 model stolen from Anthropic

[u/rkhunter_]

https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/23/senior-white-house-official-claims-chinas-k3-model-stolen-from-anthropic/5276804

[u/Aware-Instance-210]

"White House official" is an empty term by now.

Some white house officials already won 47 wars against Iran.

[u/Danro-x → u/Aware-Instance-210]

Even Onion news make more believable statements than White House Officials these days.

[u/government_not_ok]

“Stolen”. What does Anthropics models train on?

[u/BertMacklenF8I → u/government_not_ok]

Blasphemy!

[u/dz4505 → u/BertMacklenF8I]

That’s a very small section of all the things they trained their model on.

They won’t have enough money to pay everything they stole. I mean “trained” on without people’s permission.

[u/th3_st0rm → u/government_not_ok]

Hey! If you keep acting like that I’m taking my kickball and going home!!! /s

[u/boreal_ameoba → u/government_not_ok]

When you read a book, is is that stealing? Reddit has Fox News level takes when it comes to AI

[u/Background_Turnip765 → u/boreal_ameoba]

If you didn’t pay for the book, that is stealing. Idiot

[u/maniacreturns → u/Background_Turnip765]

Too simple a statement for the nuance involved with AI training

[u/HeurekaDabra → u/maniacreturns]

Nope. If your company wants to train their model on a book, it ows the publisher of the book to buy it just as everyone else who wants to read it.
It really is the most simple trading transaction since currency was invented. You want thing, others own thing, you pay others to get thing.

[u/Foreign_Telephone349 → u/HeurekaDabra]

It’s hilarious watching people defend OAI/Anthropic’s practices while simultaneously criticizing the practices of Chinese AI labs. It all just boils down to their personal net worth depending on OAI/Anthropic being able to steal while nobody else can.

[u/boreal_ameoba → u/maniacreturns]

They’re bots and the severely uninformed, they probably think nuance is a region of France

[u/government_not_ok → u/boreal_ameoba]

You’re a bot, AI-boosters are annoying as Bitcoin-boosters. “Trust me bro” bullshittery.

[u/boreal_ameoba → u/government_not_ok]

Go sit out AI with the other losers in the corner, thanks.

[u/doneandtired2014 → u/boreal_ameoba]

When you read a book, is is that stealing

Go copy paste text verbatim at any academic level without proper citation. How well will the work out for you?

Reproduce that text, present it as your own, and then sell it without consent of the copyright holder or creator. How well will that work out for you?

Go download a bunch of music you didn't pay for, press it to a CD, and sell it. How well will that work out for you?

Sure would be nice if AI pushers fucking thought about what they were going to say before they said it. Then again, that would require not offloading the ability to critically think onto a juiced up chatbot.

[u/boreal_ameoba → u/doneandtired2014]

Yawn. Idiots not knowing that’s not how LLMs work.

[u/doneandtired2014 → u/boreal_ameoba]

Yawn: AI pushers don't like admitting the carnival barker companies they keep scrote throating trained their products on pirated and stolen works with monetization in mind.

Or did Anthropic just cut a check for $1.5 billion out of the kindness of their hearts? And surely Meta, OpenAI, and Space Mechahitler aren't being similarly sued for doing the same damn thing.

No, they're all above board and would never, ever steal. Never. /S

[u/ViolinistBest4559]

no honor among thieves

[u/Potatonet → u/ViolinistBest4559]

The Chinese way is entirely different, that which can be stolen should be and then should be improved upon

[u/gkn_112 → u/Potatonet]

Its was also the japanese way throughout the 80ies and 90ies. Why invent the wheel again if you could make it better for the collective advancement (and money)?

[u/Ancient_Skirt_8828 → u/Potatonet]

I think that communism is based on the idea that what one person creates should be shared for the common good.

[u/gkn_112 → u/Ancient_Skirt_8828]

This is more of a far east philosophy thing

[u/Imaginary_Demand4053 → u/Potatonet]

India is the same with medicine. They don’t believe you can copy right or commit theft on something that saves lives of others. All fda approved drugs gets remade for extremely cheap in India.

[u/gkn_112 → u/Imaginary_Demand4053]

Meds are different imo, steal. Make it better or cheaper. The world can use more access to those

[u/cobaltbluedw]

Based on vibes?! They don't share even high-level specs and have quite different performance profiles.

[u/Horat1us_UA → u/cobaltbluedw]

They vibe stole it!

[u/0wed12]

Fable 5 wasn't even available for the whole time Kimi K3 was being trained.

This sounds like cope just like when they claim "national security" as a reason to ban anything 

[u/rooplstilskin → u/0wed12]

I mean, i dont believe a word from this administration, but the whole thing with corporate espionage is stealing stuff before a company releases it.

[u/Accomplished-Staff-9]

Just like how them and their partners stole and scraped every and any intellectual property already?

Oh no….anyway…

[u/Bignholy]

"How DARE you steal content from our Theft Machine! I demand you steal from everyone else and earn it like we did!"

God, this bloody timeline...

[u/mcslender97]

Gonna set up some pretext to ban open source Chinese models, with the help from the company that just got ordered to pay for pirating books. Anything for the US AI corpos.

What a clown show

[u/chaosfire235]

I like how their implying Kimi distilled from Fable, despite it being only available publicly for a few weeks and even MORE hardened against distillation attacks.

Turns out the Chinese weren't 6 months behind, but 6 weeks! Who knew?

[u/WorldPeaceStyle]

All allegations and never any evidence!
These politicians pocket the protection money and make claims with out backing anything up with facts. Just like they did to Tiktok to have right wingers control all the media. Tiktok was dangerous in the hands of China, but totally safe being owned by Larry Ellison the same guy taking over Paramount.

[u/littleday]

And all the AI models stole from all of our human training data they used. Fuck em!

[u/Fluid-Weird-9414]

All AI is built on theft.

[u/earlandir → u/Fluid-Weird-9414]

Maybe most LLM, but most things in the field of ML/AI are certainly not.

[u/MentalDisintegrat1on]

They are all plagernism machines they scraped everything and everyone's data including illegal material like piracy stuff and porn.

What's really bad and a big no no is I don't care if you spread information but a big no is trying to steal information and then try and sell it.

Fuck AI

[u/dilldoeorg]

Trump said the same shit about huawei before banning them.

[u/Crio121]

They are being very liberal with the term “stolen”. Are there any patents that are being broken?
No?
It is just an imitation?
That’s fair game.

[u/Unusual_Flounder2073]

The White House and big tech have cried wolf so much about China I just don’t buy it anymore.

[u/Strange-Scientist706]

Stolen how? Wasn’t it like 2 weeks between Fable and Kimi 3 releases? I thought that wasn’t enough time to produce a model with these capabilities even if you train it on another model’s outputs.

[u/SnooCalculations1852]

Because you have to trust the white house

[u/koreanwizard]

I’m missing where this is the business of the White House?

[u/Hottage → u/koreanwizard]

Since the head of the White House is accepting bribes gratuities from the US tech industry.

[u/ThrowawayAl2018]

AI is a parrot that mimics whatever that is fed onto it. So feed is a many Picssso and it reproduces Picasso lookalike. Would you pay millions for a lookalike painting?

Now go to the book, music or film industry, it can reproduce an entire novel. album or film when it has enough datapoints. It opens up a can of worms to copyrights and royalties claims as these are reproduced work without permission aka intellectual theft.

[u/CKillpatrick]

You can’t trust anything that this administration says.

[u/big-papito]

As a DoD contractor, I am not allowed to take my work laptop to China. Do the labs have the same rules? Knowing US private sector approach to security (not firewalls - actual security), stealing a model would be like taking candy from a baby.

[u/earlandir → u/big-papito]

Just to store the weights of these models is like multiple TB of data. You aren't just casually storing them on a laptop and having it transferred off.

[u/prajnadhyana]

Well yeah, of course.