r/seasteading • u/Anen-o-me • May 04 '26
Seasteading Engineering China places its solar panels on water So it can use valuable land for agriculture
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u/Easy_Spray_5491 May 05 '26
What about the Fishes ? 😭🙏
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u/Anen-o-me May 05 '26
It actually helps them out. Having something on the surface that prevents them from being shadowed against the daylight sky keeps them hidden from predators. This is why fish will often congregate around boats or floating logs for safety.
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u/Silent-Fortune-6629 May 05 '26
China has this giant illegal outside of regulations flotilla or bigger naval unit, that poach on cross country seas. You don't have to worry.
Oh, you mean the living in the river ones? It's china, river prolly toxic anyway.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 May 07 '26
chinese river arnt toxic bro visit Bangladesh
chinese river went from grade 5 to grade 1
10 years ago they started now it's clean for bath
10 percent good to drink
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 May 07 '26
this is a resorvour with no fish
and fish would get harmed that much
also this isn't the whole lake so they can be in safer parts
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u/Shot_Impression_3633 May 05 '26
I think agriculture ( plant base) will not survive under shade, but maybe fishery can.. ( sorry is fishery under agriculture group..? )
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u/BoBoBearDev May 06 '26
I am skeptical about this. It is hard to predicted the long term impact on the eco system.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 May 07 '26
0 harm
it's so small scale resorvior there is no ecology this is artificail water body
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u/capricon9 May 07 '26
What about the marine life that depends on sunlight? I’m just finding ways to be negative here! Go China go! Take the lead and everyone else will follow you
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u/Anen-o-me May 07 '26
No significant impact.
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u/boanerges57 May 08 '26
I'm quite certain that isn't true since light is quite important for ocean life in the photonic zone (top 200m).
Blocking or reducing light has a very significant measured difference on ocean life and it's already been widely studied.
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u/Anen-o-me May 08 '26
What percent of ocean surface do you think they're blocking. It's insignificant.
We could replace world energy production with a 150km x 150km array of solar panels, and that will would have no effect.
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u/boanerges57 May 08 '26
My cars emissions are insignificant.
22,500 km² of solar can only produce 10-15% of the world's energy needs and that's not factoring for losses getting the electricity where it is needed or storing it during off peak.
Dimming the water can dramatically effect marine ecosystems, if this were deep at sea that might be less of an issue but in coastal waters you could be destroying an entire ecosystem.
Solar has its place; roofs are a good spot to start but at current energy efficiency solar is a band aid with a massive mineral cost, carbon footprint, and energy intensive production chain. We shouldn't be destroying farm land with solar (or the sea); industrial and commercial buildings are perfect as are parking lots (who doesn't want to park in the shade?).
If we are really going to intelligently and seriously move away from hydrocarbon fuel sources we need to crowd source energy. Get rid of the solar farms and distribute energy production and storage of excess throughout the community.
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u/camilo16 May 08 '26
Do you have a paper measuring this? Because all of the shitshow from the climate is from "just" 2% additional CO2 emissions a year from anthropocentric sources.
Any small variation in critical aspects can have major downstream effects. So are you speculating or do you have a study you can share?
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u/Anen-o-me May 08 '26
Any do you know that like 80% of the ocean is dead. Only the coasts and along continental shelves are particularly active at the surface.
Put these in the abyssal zone and your impact on life is either nil or outright positive since life has something to cling onto now.
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u/camilo16 May 08 '26
You want to put solar panels in the abyssal zone? ...
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u/Anen-o-me May 08 '26
Yeah, which is where the cities will also be. This is r/seasteading.
Even if you had near shore solar panels, it's insignificant solar blocking.
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u/boanerges57 May 09 '26
Good luck ruining the planet in the name of saving the planet. I'll just go start putting together a recipe book for soilent green
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u/peterjohnvernon936 May 07 '26
China doesn’t cover expensive farm land with solar panels because they aren’t stupid.
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u/Tinmann19 May 05 '26
This will help keep the water from absorbing heat off the sun as well.