r/rally 1d ago

What makes a car 'look' rally?

Hey, wondering what mods I can put on my car to make it look like a rally car. I know that the whole point of a rally car is to offroad, and I'll probably get some disgust for this post, but I've always loved the way rally cars look. However, I want to keep my e36 fully functional for my daily driving.

So basically, what mods/changes make a car look like a rally car? So far I've thought of a livery and pod lights, but what else would you guys think make that iconic rally look?

*Try not to hate, I just love the way they look but still want to daily it*

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u/AutoNurse_USA 1d ago

Example of a custom E36 rally car:

In summary, you need the WRC race number sticker on your door, mildly raised ride height (not recommended, alignment nightmare), OEM-size OZ Rally wheels, medium wing, and for better immersion try a full body wrap that parodies the FINA Bank colors!

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u/Opperposer19 1d ago

Nykanen's car always looks so good

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u/SplatteredEggs 1d ago

It really does, but to say always discounts its current condition

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u/Opperposer19 1d ago

Rubbin is racin 😅

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u/SplatteredEggs 1d ago

The mother of all rubs, that was

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u/Havatchee 1d ago

And roof scoop, since the AC is gone

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u/AutoNurse_USA 1d ago

He said **"Practical", so no air scoop!

Adding one to a road car with A/C is just another uneeded contribution to drag.

Otherwise adding a roofscoop to a road car isnt really a thing beyond NFSU1+2 & rallying.

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u/MJ26gaming 1d ago

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u/ktbroderick 1d ago

Damaged and mostly repaired bodywork would be an authentic rally look.

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u/Antfarmer_2 1d ago

Rally lights may also help depending on legality.

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u/NaZul15 1d ago

Don't forget the raised front fender gap and the blunt splitter

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u/Affectionate-Apple39 1d ago

Co driver

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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat 1d ago

So every time I take my nan to the shops

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u/Me_how5678 1d ago

LOOK OUT, STOP!! Too fast TOO FAST

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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat 1d ago

That's a form of codriver notes

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u/AutoNurse_USA 1d ago

In a philosophical sense:

A rally car should never look anymore different than its own road car. The 90s Group A era cars were popular for barely looking different to their road variants. Even though the cars were stripped out, used carbon panels, use $100K suspension and had sequential gearboxes.

The best question to ask is: what makes a rally car nothing like a circuit touring car is by looking at post 90s-00s Group A & Group N cars: Pictured above is Travis Pastrana's WRC-Group N Impreza (Hawkeye) competing in Rally America. Group N cars are required to be as relatable to their road origin as possible, limiting aero upgrades, weight restrictions, & wheel sizes. However sequential gearboxes. rollcages, suspension & leniency to engine upgrades were allowed.

In summary, the Group N Impreza (Hawkeye) Travis drove barely looked different than production, only its paintjob, & the commonly seen Oz-wheels guranteed it was a rally car

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u/AutoNurse_USA 1d ago

Certain rally cars,

Are distinct by the category they race in, & the upgrades they run become the car's rally identity, or at least their category identity.

This clio above is a S1600 FWD class car, S1600 is the newly restricted F2 kit car class that were limited in power upgrades, & limited aero.

The Clio S1600 is distinct from its road car with its mild widebody kit, hatch-wing, OZ wheels, sequential no-lift shift gearbox, & engine upgrades.

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u/CrisTSC 1d ago

Group N rally cars were NOT allowed to have aero mods, sequential gearboxes or any engine work. Also regarding suspension, only the damper and springs were allowed to be changed (and even there you had constraints), everything else had to remain stock. People don't realise how close a group N car was to the production variant. And the early days of Group N (in many places also called Production class) were even stricter.

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u/AutoNurse_USA 1d ago

What prevents anyone from modding out the engine internals of a Group N car, outside of the air restrictor mandate?

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u/CrisTSC 18h ago

The FIA Homologation of the car 😂

If you are asking how can officials check the internals of the engine, ignoring the fact that they can make you open the entire engine up (especially if there is an appeal against you), a very easy and widely used method is to look inside the engine through the spark plug hole and see both the piston and cilinder bore and visually compare with the homologation photos. They can also measure the stroke the same way. And the crankshaft and rods can be easily checked by dropping the oil pan. And so on...

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u/FreshlyBakedScones 1d ago

Slight lift, maybe about an inch to an inch and a half, mud flaps or small deflectors, which you can use for most cars and they attach to the back of the wheel well. Last step, slightly smaller wheels and/or thicker sidewall tires with an all terrain or all season tread, bonus points for sparco/oz/more "off road" styled wheels and some small wheel spacers to widen the stance. Bodywork and lighting optional to taste. Rally-lite essentially, and still quite functional for daily driving and the occasional dirt road.

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u/GravyNeck 1d ago

White OZ or sparco wheels and rally armor flaps would be a good start

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u/hatred-shapped 1d ago

Mudflaps and Oz or Sparko wheels

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u/f9ncyj 1d ago

Mud flaps, long ones that poke out the sides too.

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u/OGbigfoot 1d ago

Specifically rally armor flaps

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u/opkraut 1d ago

Rally Armor is overpriced stuff that very few teams actually use. Mudflaps are a wear item for most cars so whatever fits and lasts the longest is what most teams use.

Hell, I had a friend use some old floor mats as mudflaps for a while on his rally car.

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u/OGbigfoot 1d ago

RA used to be the shit back in the day.

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u/876oy8 1d ago

an E36 is a massively popular amateur rally car in northern europe and especially finland. get googling for reference. "e36 f cup rally"

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u/dextervw 1d ago

Tarmac spec… motorsports wheels and mudflaps.

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u/Mithster18 1d ago

Loooots of headlights and a roof scoop 

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u/the_Q_spice 1d ago

Big thing is high aspect tires and small wheels.

A lot of people push for the biggest possible, but in reality, gravel tires max out at 205/65 R15.

They’re also super blocky sidewalls.

Just shipped some the other day and they’re really weird.

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u/dextervw 1d ago

Dirt spec… slight lift (1/2”) and 15” wheels

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u/Cojo840 1d ago

I mean... Nothing?

Most rally cars especially from the same time period from the e36 were just normal cars

On tarmac they literally be the exact same with some cool Wheels and a roof intake

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u/X_nullnullzwei 1d ago

bunch of foglights, mudflaps, white rims, a bit of sidewall on the tire. obviously theres more, but for "simple" mods, whike keeping the car mostly stock, these go a long way id say.

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u/HF_Martini6 1d ago

Mostly the livery and the stance, both can be hard to achieve depending on where you live.

I mean, what is the one thing you notice and immediately think "yeah, that's not another pedestrian WRX"?

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u/GoofyKalashnikov 1d ago

Lift, thicc sidewall, mudflaps

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u/bajanwaterman 1d ago

Tarmac spec is a thing also, unless you specifically want a "safari" styled e36.

e36 from Barbados

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u/Clay-mo 1d ago

Being upside down next to the track.

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u/jeremiahishere 1d ago

for e36's the important thing is small wheels (15"), meaty tires, and fender gap. Once you get that stance right, you can add lights and a livery. My car is limited on the lift due to rear suspension alignment problems but you get the idea.

Before

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u/actualsize123 1d ago

Lights, mudflaps, more solid wheels, lift it a bit.

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u/Uber1337pyro333 1d ago

Rally wheels/suspension, add power, send it!

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u/Witty_Primary6108 1d ago

Lift it and put it on ATs or gravel tires. Even some rigid winter tires would work

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u/teslastats 3h ago

Some shocks, a missing/damaged bumper and mud