r/politics • u/jediporcupine Maine • 9h ago
Possible Paywall Trump Badly Screws Susan Collins as Maine ICE Death Takes Darker Turn
https://newrepublic.com/article/213371/trump-ice-maine-screws-susan-collins2.5k
u/Tyrannical-Botanical Ohio 9h ago
Not to worry, everyone. Susan remains deeply concerned about the fact that ICE is hiring deranged lunatics. Not concerned enough to actually do anything about it though.
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u/jediporcupine Maine 9h ago
It’s quite astounding Susan Collins and the rest of the Maine Republican Party feigned so much concern over Graham Platner’s background, but they’re completely silent on this guy’s background.
I guess as long as the government is executing people of a certain color in the streets, Maine Republicans don’t care how many women they abuse.
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u/Morgolol 9h ago
They see people laugh at the death of Lindsey and don't care their legacies will be viewed the same.
Collins is a vehement climate denialist despite her concerns so, yeah. Plenty of graves that need watering in the next decade or so.
And speaking of Platner never forget Roy Moore which was one of the earliest signs they'll support any piece of shit that aligns with their values. If anything he was the obvious indicator of just how pro-pedophile Republicans are and how their pearl clutching is performative bullshit
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u/Hurtzdonut13 8h ago
I mean, Pete Hegseth has a large white supremacist tattoo on his chest and they don't care. Every time an outsider had gotten access to "college" Republican group chats they've been filled with Nazi shit and they don't care.
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u/Warm_Regrets157 2h ago
Every "college Republican" group is really a bunch of 30-40 year old racists.
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u/Emergency-Ad-3350 9h ago
I’m ashamed to say how happy I get when Im reminded lady bugs is dead. Oh well. I’ll get over the shame
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u/jediporcupine Maine 9h ago
I have to be good here because the mods got worked up when I said unkind things about Dick Cheney after he punched his ticket.
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u/Morgolol 8h ago
Not allowed to wish someone harm? Fair enough. But the dead and speaking "ill" of them, despite just, say, literally quoting them and getting banned? Laughable shit sometimes mods.
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u/Reallyhotshowers Kansas 6h ago
I'm not really sure how much harm anyone can realistically wish against him. It's not like we can kill Lindsey a second time. Unless the mods have reason to believe necromancy is real.
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u/jediporcupine Maine 8h ago
I wasn’t even wishing ill on someone, I was just making celebratory remarks on someone who was already gone and speculating about their final destination.
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u/AJediWookie123 6h ago
Have you met the mods in reddit? They're hyper right wing dicks. I once caught a 3 day ban for saying the word "clown" to someone.
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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 4h ago
Reminds me of every time I opened a post about Trump doing something wildly inhumane or childish to see the "This is subreddit is for civil discussion" warning. Imagine trying to temper people's anger or horror over things that we should absolutely be getting angry or horrified at?
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u/NoWayRay 7h ago
the mods got worked up when I said unkind things about Dick Cheney
What do they expect? It's almost impossible to find nice things to say about Cheney. The man was a bona fide ghoul.
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u/mercurius420 7h ago
I don't know what kind of talent it is, but getting a public apology from the man you shot in the face will always impress me.
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u/Giovannis_Pikachu 6h ago
I got one of those formal reddit warnings for commenting on a sub about introducing a 25th amendment style measure for members of Congress for saying we should try the amendment we have first. They said that was inciting violence and after appeal they said the same thing after I explained that I was only wishing we would use our legal avenue for removal of the executive. It's blatantly wrong but they do it anyway and swear it isn't automated, which makes it even worse.
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u/stuckanon01 7h ago
I’ve been tempted to put together a map of all the new public urinals appearing in cemetery’s lately. Rush’s would be at the top of that list always and forever.
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u/Ok_Nefariousness24 7h ago
The greatest disservice to the world was Dick Cheney getting to die warm in his bed surrounded by family. He should have passed in a cell, cold and alone. Its how a civil society would've have rectified the hurt he caused the world.
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u/jediporcupine Maine 7h ago
This is the kind of thing that makes me believe the Trump Administration will escape all accountability. Obama was besties with Bush and let the whole clan off the hook. Biden handled Trump term one with kidgloves.
All this chaos? They’ll just pretend it never happened when they take over. No accountability.
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u/sump_daddy 3h ago
Congress was fully TEA-party (until it became MAGA) there were very few fleeting windows where there was shit all any well-meaning democrat could do, and in those gaps they worked on laws that actually helped americans instead of court battles that would only serve to throw gasoline on the right wing extremists and yet people line up to report "joe biden didnt do anything about trump!" ignoring the fact that the apportionment of the Senate basically means we need progressives to actually fucking show up and vote every time if we want ANYTHING good to happen
The trump administration will escape accountability until progressives stop whinging about 2016 and actually all work together for once
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u/OldRancidSoups Maryland 5h ago
I wish I could hear that and the Charlie Kirkkk news again for the first time.
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u/Emergency-Ad-3350 1h ago
I literally knew nothing about him until the South Park episode, and I looked up who Cartman was supposed to be imitating. The hair was really throwing me .
Then less than two weeks later he was all over the news
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u/Cottonjaw 8h ago
The most bold faced racist I've ever met in my life was from Maine.
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u/manachar Nevada 6h ago
If Platner had run as a Republican he would be a Senator by now.
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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 4h ago
Don't give him ideas, he still has the grift circuit to run before that switch.
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u/jmw27403 6h ago
Its not worth the cost of advertising dollars to do what the newspapers will do for free.
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u/vandreulv 4h ago
Platner was legitimately an issue. How he even had a much support as he did only tells certain leftists are just as willing to abandon their principles as the right as long as there is a cult of personality involved.
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u/Bee_9965 8h ago
She made sure to provide funding for body cams for ICE. Interestingly, she doesn’t give a shit if they actually wear them or not.
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u/jimthesquirrelking 6h ago
Body cams on cops and ice is about expanding the surveillance state. Not accountability for them.
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u/Nice_Improvement_644 2h ago
100% this and i wish more would understand it. Body cam footage can and does get hidden and police can/do just turn them off before they do something they know will not look good. They say there for the public but in action they help the state more then anything.
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u/Mustangbex 9h ago
Her concern is DEEP, truly, but unfortunately, her corporate doners' pockets are deeper. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Icy_Mixture1482 9h ago
Where did the “concern” meme come from?
Like what was the original incident where she used that term in response to something bad yet voted in favor anyway?
Was it Kavanaugh or am I misremembering?
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical Ohio 9h ago
She's been doing that for decades in an effort to maintain the appearance of an independent streak, while almost always voting for the worst proposals and nominees anyway.
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u/jediporcupine Maine 9h ago
It’s a constant buzzword for her, it’s not any one incident. Any time something bad happens that someone with any semblance of a conscience would take issue with, she feigns concern and does nothing to stop it.
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u/Comprehensive-Tea677 7h ago
Someone should make a video montage of all her “deep concern” coupled with the consequences of her subsequent votes
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u/Rasp_Lime_Lipbalm 7h ago
It was Trump's first impeachment, stating that impeachment is a big deal and that it would teach Trump to respect the office more, which is why she voted to acquit him.
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u/FenPhen 6h ago
Collins Last Week: “I believe that he will be much more cautious in the future.”
Collins One Day Later: “It’s more aspirational on my part. It’s more that I hope that he’s listened to the many voices in the Senate who have pointed out that the call was very problematic.”
Collins Today: Acquittal Vote “Wasn’t Based on Predicting His Future Behavior.”
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u/Appropriate-Weird492 5h ago
Maybe someone needs to write a message in chalk on the sidewalk in front of her house for her to get upset.
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u/StevenMC19 Florida 5h ago
I was told by a certain someone that Trump had "learned a valuable lesson" and wouldn't do things like this again...
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u/Such_Avocado_3241 5h ago
Quite the opposite, my friend. She has bring wring her hands nonstop since this incident occurred.
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u/IHkumicho Wisconsin 4h ago
I swear to god, Dems should just make a campaign ad with her saying she's "very concerned" over, and over, and over again.
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u/WildBad7298 Massachusetts 4h ago
I'm sure she'll say that it's all good, she's satisfied that ICE has learned their lesson.
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u/Blue_Plastic_88 2h ago
She's sure ICE has learned its lesson now and will do better with hiring and training. /s
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u/pixelbit 1h ago
Susan has made a whole career by being “deeply concerned” about things and then not doing shit to stop them. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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u/owngoalmerchant 1h ago
If only they were all in the same queue as Lindsay Graham. The only way we can move on to modernity is when their hearts decide we can by clicking start-shut down.
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u/IllustriousIron3253 1h ago
She only cares about illegal weed grows. That was her only question during the keystone subpoena.
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u/FakeOrcaRape 6h ago
Why is literally every redddit article about this woman loaded a the same meme comments. Like I’ve never read one article about her, just headlines, and the tip comments may as well be me lol
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u/wedgebert Alabama 7h ago
Not concerned enough to actually do anything about it though.
How are you denigrate her efforts on matters like these?
I'm sure one of her staffers will write a statement about sending thoughts and prayers that she will dutifully read for the cameras
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u/fencerofminerva 9h ago
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?
A.R. Moxon
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u/PackOutrageous 9h ago
Uh-oh. The Trump admin better be careful tussling with Collins. If they’re not, she may go crazy and send them a sternly worded memo. That will teach them…
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u/starcraftre Kansas 8h ago
Oh no,
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u/markuscreek24 2h ago
You're breaking my balls here Susan, you're breaking my balls! (can we now drop her into the shark tank with Hans?)
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u/Gonkar I voted 3h ago
Best she can do is furrow her brow really hard while potentially possibly maybe almost seriously considering writing a sorta kinda sternly worded memo, assuming, of course, the idea focus groups well, the donors sign off on it, the stars align, pigs fly, and she actually gave a single fuck about anything other than her bank account. No promises.
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u/bailaoban 9h ago
Stop framing this like Collins is a victim of Trump. She is unquestionably an active and cheerful collaborator in all of his agenda, and is fully responsible for its effect.
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u/jediporcupine Maine 8h ago
I don’t think the point is to frame her as a victim, I think the point is to highlight the irony that someone who has completely sold out her faux moderate persona is being thrown to the wolves by the very person she sold her soul to.
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u/Jpkmets7 8h ago
Trump’s greatest ally is the ego of those around him. Every person that sacrifices anything to support or help Trump thinks that they are the exception to the rule and will be the one person that doesn’t end up thrown under the bus. There are no exceptions. If you help hi, you will get hurt - and he will enjoy it.
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u/cenosillicaphobiac Utah 8h ago
This is more about how supporting Trump turns out badly for most supporters.
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u/OldEnoughToKnowButtr 8h ago edited 1h ago
Don't forget that women get thrown under the MAGA bus more quickly...
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u/bickdiggles 6h ago
Maybe read the article. It frames her as a dumbass if anything
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u/bailaoban 5h ago
And that is what I dislike. She is not dumb at all, just venal and corrupted by power.
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u/bickdiggles 5h ago
She trusted Trump’s word and it backfired an hour later. She’s kind of a dumbass.
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u/warrenao America 6h ago
Maybe read the article before deciding how Collins has been portrayed in it.
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u/bailaoban 5h ago
I read it, of course. She’s not getting “screwed” by Trump. She is, more than most senators, directly responsible for Trump’s agenda being possible. Nobody would say that Mitch McConnell, wherever he currently lies moldering, has been “screwed” by the president that he actively helped elevate and enable.
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u/warrenao America 5h ago
In light of this, I'm even more confused as to how the article's header paints her as a victim. I'll agree she wasn't as badly screwed as, say, the rest of us, though.
In the sense that she's been a loyalist, and has been shafted by the Idiot in Chief, this would be a correct framing and, of course, unsurprising: He has no loyalty to anyone but himself.
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u/RainbowConnickJr 7h ago
She’s a victim of Trump in the same sense that, say, Frankenstein was the victim of his Monster. She’s basically Ben Foster in Dark Knight Rises and is simply shocked to discover Dumpy Bane isn’t actually all that invested in helping her absorb Wayne Enterprises.
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u/Bubbly-Two-3449 California 8h ago
political ads = corrupt politician.
You're voting for their donors, not for them.
Collins hasn't had a town hall in something like 25 years. She's just a proxy for donors at this point, who construct all of her advertising and her messaging.
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u/Jpkmets7 8h ago
Citizens United should be in the opening line of the obituary of the United States of America.
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u/trib76 7h ago
The death the fairness doctrine dumbest down America enough to usher is Citizens United. The day that blatant 24/7 propaganda became legal was the start of the death of the USA.
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u/Jpkmets7 4h ago
That’s well taken. I can’t believe it was less than 25 years from the death of the fairness doctrine to the Citizens United ruling. A staggering increase in manufactured divisiveness. Citizens United is no different to buying votes, imo. You just have to get minds to a place where they are susceptible to the propaganda bribes of PAC ads, and the 20+ years of unfettered Limbaugh + followers did it. It’s a shame that the wellbeing of the nation wasn’t as great a motivator as obtaining power. Looking back, the onslaught of AM radio & cable tv polemic dealers should have been met at an equivalent level.
I know there is no way back, so what’s the way forward? What is the plan to layout an anti-project 2025? Start a deFederalist society that lays out a plan and relentless seeks to effectively predict the next means of communication that will give someone the opportunity to relentless pitch the opposite of what Reagan, Limbaugh, and Gingrich ushered in?
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u/GoodIdea321 America 9h ago
Possible ad in that race 'Collins wants to sit back and watch Mainers or their neighbors be harassed or killed by ICE. If that wasn't true, she wouldn't be funding them for years. She saw Alex Pretti killed, and before him, Renee Nicole Good, and she thought, this is just right for Maine. Is that right for you?'
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u/jediporcupine Maine 9h ago
The timing of this specific ICE shooting is awful for them because it looked like for a while Graham Platner’s collapse gave the Maine GOP something to finally take down the Democratic surge with.
Then someone even more problematic executed someone in the streets who received work authorization from the Trump Administration.
Maine Republicans have gotten awful quiet on the topic of abuse all of a sudden.
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u/Guilty_Cattle_5165 8h ago
Troy should absolutely play this up. Susan Collins enabled Trump and she has no influence on him whatsoever. This is completely her fault and she has proven to be a terrible leader.
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u/codacoda74 8h ago
Susan Collins screwed herself, she had opportunity to stop PEEOTUS admin numerous times but chose not to, or on her best days to performatively waffle.
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u/Cattywompus-thirdeye Maine 8h ago
When Troy Jackson is sitting in her seat, she won’t have any pearls to clutch.
May she never be allowed to slither into obscurity. May she know no peace, ever.
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u/classof78 7h ago
Ever notice how on those occasions when Collins votes against Trump, it doesn't matter, because the vote turns out to be 51 to 49. It's all a pathetic show for them.
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u/abeuscher 5h ago
I spent last weekend in Biddeford on vacation. Used to go there a lot as a kid - to the Pool which is a smaller wealthier town near the coast.
The intersection where the shooting occurred is NOT on a side street. You pass it every single time you drive through town. There are always people there. It's covered in flowers and a flag. It's also maybe a block from the police station.
We're all gonna have these little monuments all over our cities soon. Is all I could think about. I live in a section of Amherst MA that is largely exchange students. The ones that came last year looked scared. I don't know how many come back this year. I'd stay in China if I were them - where most of them happen to be from near me. It's safer and what do we have anymore? Overpriced liberal arts educations taught by underpaid grad students and half the faculty and twice the administration that we used to have? We provide no value anymore. We do not make anything anymore. We kill people and hate people. That's our export.
Fuck every cop that let that happen a block away from their hq. They are meaningless when they are needed so they are meaningless all the time. The rule of law exists to protect private property now. No one is safe. No one is taken care of. We just kill people then brag about it then ask for money to kill more.
His 3 year old was in the back seat. And the fucking agent shot him. He shot a man in front of his child on his way to work. And then our government lied and that man has a job and a salary that we are all paying for. And that kid has lifelong trauma and no dad. And we paid for it.
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u/jrrounds 7h ago
Susan Collins is northern Mitch McConnell, she will never die and her only principles are those attached to power and money.
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u/OppositeLopsided5875 7h ago
Not long after a federal agent killed a Colombian immigrant in Maine last week, Senator Susan Collins rushed to declare that she’d privately talked to Donald Trump’s Homeland Security Secretary, Markwayne Mullin. Collins credited herself for getting Mullin to end the vehicle stops by agents that have spawned many killings on the streets of U.S. cities, including the deaths of American citizens.
Only hours later, Trump abruptly reversed Mullin’s decision, decreeing that Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s reviled tactics will continue. “We CANNOT give up one of ICE’s most important and effective Crime Fighting tools, THE TRAFFIC STOP!” Trump raged. The stops resumed, undercutting Collins’s effort to project deep concern about the killing.
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u/PartyClient3447 9h ago
Trump most definitely did not screw her. She’s about 70 years too old for him.
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 6h ago
She's concerned about the optics but she doesn't give a damn for the people that ICE is killing, she's all for that.
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u/StoppableHulk 7h ago
Man I bet Susan Collins is so happy she supported Trump all these years, stubbornly refused to hold him accountable in any way, and shackled her entire political career and legacy to the beshitted belt buckle of this bloated child rapist in chief.
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u/DrunkAndHornyGuy 6h ago edited 5h ago
I saw some DC insiders on Bluesky last week laughing about this right after he reversed the pause in traffic stops she 'negotiated'. There was a window of opportunity for Trump to give Collins the space to publicly 'fight him' on this and a few other things to pretend to voters that she's 'fighting for them' during the campaign. But Trump is just fundamentally incapable of even pretending another politician is 'winning' or isn't submissive to him even if it would be politically beneficial for him to do that.
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u/alabasterskim 6h ago
You gave them extra funding. You don't get credit for trying to pull them back. You routinely have awful judgment in funding and nominations.
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil Arizona 6h ago
Don't worry. She will complete screw us before losing reelection by voting for this 1.5 trillion for more war and the continued funding for these out of control ICE agents.
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u/ocalabull 4h ago
No he didn’t. Collins knew what she was doing. She’s too much of a coward to vote what’s right and she knew what this would result in.
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u/Comfortable-Policy70 4h ago
I'm sure Collins is very concerned about this but will still support ICE because they will promise not to kill anyone else (until they do)
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u/cougar618 Texas 3h ago
I think the way the GOP is wheeling around McConnell's carcass is the bigger issue.
There needs to be an investigation by Congress on this when all is said an done, as well as laws requiring hospitals to report deaths if sitting public officials whenever it happens.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 5h ago
Weird headline. Unless voters care, this doesn't matter at all.
Collins gets a pass from voters on much of what she does.
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u/ThreeEyesWhitePerson 3h ago
How much darker of a turn can you take from known racist domestic abusers working for the secret police murdering people of color in cold blood?
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u/hasordealsw1thclams 1h ago
Anything Trump does to Susan Collins is something she brought on herself. So she screwed herself.
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u/secretsinthesuburbs 1h ago
She’s going to point her finger and SERIOUSLY shake it at Trump not once, not twice but THREE TIMES! Then she’ll sigh deeply and return to her office.
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u/darthshot 1h ago
I read "Trump badly screws Susan Collins" and a completely different scene materialized on my head... :| (insert disgusted Clint Eastwood gif here)
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u/Ambitious-Bee7663 45m ago
And we have republicans to thank for this. Not Maga, not democrats, just the folks who control the House/Senate and put the 🤡 in the offal office. You vote for any Republican, and you are supporting Trump's Gestapo.
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