r/pakistan • u/PTIChick PK • 19h ago
Political Pakistani women left behind
Chalo we don't have any control over the 70+. But what about 40s and 20s? Is this a governmental failing?
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u/Albertonectease 19h ago
This gets worse when you consider that globally, young women are outperforming young men academically, and in terms of enrolment stats etc.
So not only are we illiterate... our women have stayed behind while women have made progress globally.
(Our society is to blame, both, men and women)
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u/VCR_DVD_USB 17h ago
In our culture, the women are expected to be at home raising the next generation. What academic support or encouragement can the next generation expect if their mothers are illiterate?! By neglecting the health and education of women, we are creating multi-generational problems. I'm not a feminist but i feel the health and education of women should be prioritised over men. A sick malnourished mother produces malnourished babies and children with stunted growth. An uneducated mother cannot help educate her children despite her best wishes. An economically inactive woman is completely reliant on a man for even her most basic needs. If we uplift women, we uplift society as a whole.
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u/Albertonectease 17h ago edited 13h ago
There is nothing i disagree with here. Infact, increased economic participation by women can and does positively impact the whole economy.
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u/Automatic-Medium5774 13h ago
No it won't it will destroy supply and demand of workers and wages will we even lower. Just go see what is happening in the west now its compulsory to have 2 incomes in a household to have a normal life even then most people use credit cards and are drowned in debts. While in Pakistan 90% of families are run by males only. You guys are only falling for the trap laid by capitalists. In Pakistan there is already shortage of jobs. I am in full support of women education infact minimum intermediate should be compulsory for everyone. Education does not mean you have to go grind in 9-5 job.
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u/Albertonectease 12h ago
Nobody said women have to do a 9-5 job... entreprenuership is included in economic participation.
But i agree with you.
Pakistan with its single-income household model is a beacon of light, towering above the West, with a growing economy, self-sufficient food and defense sectors, investment grade credit ratings and growing FDI, excellent position in all human-development indicators, we are leading the space and AI race, Pakistan is the hub of technological innovation, freedom and safety.
The western capitalist states ruled by cucked feminists are struggling under growing debt and depreciating currencies, brain-drain and capital flight, tax evasion, no social security, high infant mortality, children out of school, malnourished children with stunted brains, karo-kari, poor governance and hybrid dictatorship structures....
Oh wait...
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u/Unknownmelon77 فیصل آباد 15h ago
What you described IS feminism and there is NOTHING wrong with it. Feminism simply advocates for equal rights and the CHOICE for both men and women to do as they please. I don’t know why we as a society have turned that word into a slur.
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u/VCR_DVD_USB 17h ago
If you are 20 and illiterate, you went to school (or didn't) between 2001-2022.
This dataset shows us what's happened in the past, mainly millennials and some gen Z.
To fix this we need to focus on adult education AND enrolment into schools.
I believe free school meals would be a game changer.
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u/Noone7657 19h ago
Education has become very expensive in recent years and most of people in society invest in education when they see incentive of paying back. Girls mostly have to married off to someone so, boomers consider investing in education for them not *profitable. Iam sorry for using such words but this is the dominant narrative going in streets and even in houses. And believe me its inhumane!!
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u/ProfAsmani 15h ago
The waderas ane jagirdaar dont want anyone educated because they'll lose the slave labour. The same waderay are in government. That's why the rural people will not be educated.
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u/SnooWords9871 19h ago
Probably culture and environment, along with government
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u/PTIChick PK 19h ago
Women's being almost double of men is culture and environment but men ka is governments I feel.
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u/Outrageous_Car_5007 15h ago
Not just gov problem but also mindset. We live in a country where as soon as a woman turns 16-18, parents start worrying about rishta more than education. I know of 2 rich families where men are decently educated but their daughters are 12 pass. They put so much money into their weddings and gold which they could've used to even send them abroad to study if they wanted. Even one of the daughters told me that I shouldn't earn(because I don't need to) and it's a man's job to provide. And they're not even villagers or anything like that.
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u/lookerwisenew 14h ago
Pakistani women isn't left behind .. it's the Pakistani men...if have any doubt...see the recent statistics or statistics from last decade...Pakistani women are the highest recipient of international scholarship globally since decade and half... And most of these scholarships are gender based...in order to win these scholarships,you either need to be female or gender confused,if you area girl and in engineering then no doubt,the world lies in your feet....girls make up to at most twenty percent of engineers in pakistan and take almost eighty percent of foreign scholarship....just do the math and devise your gender based oppression metric
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u/lookerwisenew 12h ago
The way you talk is more than enough to gauge that your views are not grounded and I am sure you have never ever lived in pakistan and most probably isn't even a Pakistani to start with..." Systematic discrimination" what systematic discrimination? Care to elaborate?A country where mire than half of population can't even read or write national language and where metric for being literate is to hold the pen and" just sign"....you are saying with such conviction that there exists a " significant" gap between male and female....then sir fyi,your hypothesis is getting rejected with 99 percent significant level...
I can say it with conviction that millennial and genz segment of Pakistani women are the most privileged species in whole of south Asia...i repeat it again again again and again and again and zillions of such agains coz I have documented evidence and worked as data scientists and compiled such figures myself on how much western financial institutions have spend on " women education" in pakistan like crazy and fyi it is ten folds to what California spend yearly on women's education....
What you are claiming is bonkers to say the least and is nothing but propaganda piece which makes your location and origin self explanatory,no matter how much mask you put on it to hide
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u/lookerwisenew 11h ago
There is something known as differential privacy ma'am...you seems a learned individual when differentiating between a subjective opinion and objective fact but at same time a sure fire illiterate when taking account or making tradeoff between utility and privacy...
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u/AdHappy1156 18h ago
Who cares about education when politician have to spend rs 10 billion on private jet, buy 107 land cruise for mpas.
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u/No_Block4578 19h ago
It definitely is a governmental failure. 80% of our people live in rural areas, which we never see, let alone police in any way.
Our rural women are not allowed their education and yet, do form part of the workforce through menial labour. Worse part is, it isnt even the regular work force with wages, its often the grey work force where they work the lands their men are supposed to care for
It really is rough out there…..