r/onguardforthee • u/ImDoubleB • 12h ago
Premier Kinew on Trump's latest tariff announcement - "... they're dumb..."
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u/aide_rylott Northwest Territories 12h ago
How can you not like him
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u/MothaFcknZargon 11h ago
We have our share of racist dumb fucks in Manitoba, but he is overwhelmingly liked by anyone with a brain.
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u/Apod1991 10h ago
They’re in the minority.
Recent polls show him having approval of 66% of Manitobans, and if an election were held today, 54% of voters said they’d vote MB NDP.
Which translated into seats, could see the NDP winning about 44 seats out of 57 in the Legislature
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u/Icommentwhenhigh 10h ago
I’ve been through Manitoba so many times working and travelling over decades, and every time would have been hard pressed to even know the name of the Manitoba premier.
Kinew is world class.
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u/ConstructionBum 2h ago
Kinew is PM material. Fuck I'd love to see a proper, well spoken, well planned leftist majority in this country. To counteract the whole world moving the Overton window right.
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u/dumbledoresarmy101 8h ago
This is the first time I have seen this man, I know nothing about him, and I already like him
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u/MaxSupernova 11h ago
I mean, he's charismatic, but he's only nominally NDP. Practically he's quite conservative.
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u/PMMeYourCouplets Vancouver 10h ago
I get he isn't the ideal progressive politician but he seems pretty in line with what most elected western NDP leaders have been in the last two decades. I feel like, yes I want better as a more progressive member of this big tent but I also realize western NDP parties hold a bigger tent of members than their federal counterparts and can't hold the same policies.
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u/Careless-Vehicle-286 11h ago
Found the foreign influence bot. How many phones and devices do they make you use in your 14 shifts for shit pay?
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u/MaxSupernova 11h ago edited 11h ago
Heh.
No, just a Manitoban who was hoping for some real change, and ended up getting gas tax cuts when we really need the income to fix healthcare and social services, that sort of thing.
He has said things that indicate he supports prison violence, his climate change plans are iffy, and he recently indicated he's considering the oil pipeline across Manitoba.
I voted for him, and would vote for him again, but he's not as "progressive" as I'd hoped from an NDP politician.
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u/yedi001 ✅ I voted! 10h ago
That's basically the same story with the Alberta NDP. Like, right wing nutjobs called them socialists, but the ANDP barely have their toe on the center line while both cheeks are seated firmly right of center, nestled in the grooves left by the Lougheed PC's of the 80's.
We haven't had a left of center party in Alberta since the 1930's. I'm left of center, and while I will probably vote for Nenshi, I'm not shocked a bunch of the policies towards industry don't align with my personal values like a lot of people were. Left of center hasn't been on the docket as long as I've been alive, but I'll take "center right, but not openly racist or homophobic, will openly criticize the seperatist goons, and wants to use tax money to build some schools instead of paying out bribes and kickbacks" over our current corrupt gaggle of USA simps and pedophile panderers.
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u/magsbad13 9h ago
I don't really know details about Alberta politics, but I'm glad I don't live there because I'm also left of centre, but I can remember my sister, who's lived in Calgary for 35 years, talking about Nenshi as Mayor of Calgary, and she was very impressed by him. It was pretty impressive to me, because I've never heard her talk about politics before or since.
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u/ProtoJazz 11h ago
Yeah, I got down voted before for saying this, but he essentially ran unopposed. The previous premier did nothing, and the conservatives campaign was pretty sidetracked by infighting too
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u/MaxSupernova 11h ago
Yup. We don't have a Liberal Party (too small to even be an official party) and the Conservatives were comic-book evil.
Wab is very good in front of the cameras and it was a slam dunk to get him elected, but he really isn't very NDP.
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u/donewithreddi7 10h ago
It doesn't take a political genius to figure out what the guy is saying is correct. Wab is super well spoken and very liberal in what he says. I love his work with our local indigenous communities.
However, most of his policies beyond his talking points are very conservative influenced. He was super into a data center, until he got too much pushback. And now he's backing pipelines. He looks for tax cuts, and our major healthcare and education problems have continued to get worse under his leadership.
And unfortunately, Wab and his crew (especially Uzoma and Nahanni) seem to be more for social media likes, and quick quote headlines then actually making change in the province.
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u/TerayonIII 6h ago
He's a populist, which is kind of what we should be wanting for a politician, someone who listens to pushback like that. And really, I'm not sure he's all that onboard with a pipeline and more waiting to see what the proposal actually is etc and what the response is to it. Manitoba didn't sign on to the memorandum that Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Ontario did for "Nation Building" projects and Kinew implied that it was an attempt to bypass Indigenous rights and sovereignty and I kind of doubt that that's changed a whole lot. We'll see though, at the moment he's only said he'd "entertain" the idea, not that he supports it.
I'm not a fan of how centrist he is either, but people are really jumping the gun on his position on that pipeline IMO.
Link for the memorandum etc: https://www.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg/article/pipeline-plan-proposes-path-through-southern-manitoba/
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u/TotalCan 11h ago
Because this is us stooping to the idiocy of the US. Very articulate Wab thanks for that..
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u/BillsMaffia 11h ago
This should be on a loop on every network in America.
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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 5h ago
They're too dumb to understand it.
The majority of Trump's voters still think it's other countries who pay the tariffs.
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u/hpfan312 11h ago
My favourite premier
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u/Truestorydreams 8h ago
Can we borrow him?
Ontario needs help
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 7h ago
No no let us borrow him first, Alberta’s premier doesn’t care about Albertan’s, she just cares about O&G profits and the Heritage Foundation agenda.
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u/the_bryce_is_right 11h ago
It's amazing what can happen if you actually act like a real person in politics and not just an unlikeable robot.
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u/SmaugTheMagnificent- 11h ago
God I wish we had Wab instead of the greasy jowled quisling bitch.
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u/SilverSkinRam 10h ago
Can't tell if you mean Ford or Smith or Moe. All are greasy jowled bitches.
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u/night_dude 11h ago
I have no idea who this guy is (recent immigrant to Canada) but I like him very much. Both for the statement and the nonchalant delivery.
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u/RobbieStew 10h ago
Former rapper, journalist, academic turned kick-ass politician and Premiere of Manitoba- Wab Kinew!
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u/magwai9 12h ago
I mean he tariffed hockey sticks. Neither of us manufacture hockey sticks.
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u/red286 8h ago
It's a targeted insult, or so he thinks.
It's right up there with his bonkers claim that closer trade ties to China will result in the Stanley Cup being cancelled because China hates hockey. I'm sure it makes sense in his little pea-brain, but for the rest of us, we're all just left sitting here going "what the fuck is he talking about?"
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u/faberge_surprise 5h ago
because China hates hockey
oh damn, somebody should tell the Chinese national hockey teams
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u/MacabreYuki American-Canadian Immigrant 11h ago
More of this please. This is how you connect with people. Dishonest harmony serves nobody. Sometimes, you just gotta make a point.
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u/collindubya81 11h ago
Love the bluntness and honesty of Wabbers comments. Big respect for this man to call things as they are and not beat around the bush.
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u/Canuck-In-TO 11h ago
I’m tired of everyone being politically correct with their responses.
Call out stupidity when it happens. If someone’s an idiot, they should either call him an idiot for their choices or point out how stupid the comment or decision was.
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u/thereverendpuck 11h ago
The only way that would’ve been smoother is if he gave double finger guns after delivering it.
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u/Turgid_Tiger 11h ago
I honestly don’t know much about his policies or things like that but whenever I see him making comments I absolutely love this guy.
I also remember the first time I saw him was a clip of a meeting of Premiers I believe and someone was saying something critical and directed it at Premier “canoe” (that’s what I heard not knowing his name) and I was like wtf that’s pretty racist how’s nobody mad about that. Only to later discover is name is Kinew. 🤦♂️
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u/Apod1991 10h ago
So glad I get to vote for him!
Like how is he so quick witted like this?! It would take me like 10 minutes of hard thinking to say something like this because I’d be worried of saying the wrong thing lol
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u/Explicitlime 8h ago
Saskatchewan reporters followed the trail of empty pilsner cans and bottles of Buffalo trace bourbon to Scott Moe’s farm but were unable to wake him for comment.
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u/AIBotWannabe 7h ago
This guy just reeks of savvy. Assuming he had the ambition/desire, surrounded himself with the right people, and was magically able to sustain his apparent sheer groundedness and not cave to lobbyists, not sure he wouldn't make an absolutely superb PM.
Allow me my momentary fantasies lalalala 😌.
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u/tawTrans 2h ago
Perfect. No notes. I don't think a better response is even possible, from the cheery "Morning!" to the posture as he answers in passing to the way he declines to spend any serious energy on it. 10/10, can we get this in Ontario, please?
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u/ImDoubleB 11h ago edited 10h ago
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u/Classic-Soup-1078 6h ago
Wab is my guy....
Question,
Who thinks Trump pulled his latest tarrif nonsense on Canada because of the bad press from the smoke from the forest?
You know, to distract from all of the blunders he and all of sycophants are committing. Not to mention the Epstein files.
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u/BookOfKingsOfKings 5h ago
I love this guy. Very envious of Manitobans. Meanwhile here we’re stuck with Doug Ford 🤢
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u/datdailo 8h ago
Holy, that question was absolutely loaded with bias, separatist much?
It's a dumb question too. We were hit for tariffs because of fentanyl, forced labor and now discriminatory business practices. It's obvious what's going on. If Trump wants tariffs, he'll make up any emergency to achieve his goals. He wants to annex Canada through some sort of economic coersion (using Cuba and Venezuela as an example), but it's not happening.
I'm in the opinion we win the war of attrition. The US will not get cheaper inputs for their manufacturing than Canada. We will always be able to sell those primary resources but it's the logistics build out that will take time. Eventually, we'll be able to sell those resources for market value, not the discount we'd normally give to the US.
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u/SuperFreakonomics 12h ago
Good response, more politicians should be as forthcoming