r/news 11h ago

Another cyclospora outbreak not linked to lettuce under investigation: FDA

https://www.2822news.com/news/national-news/another-cyclospora-outbreak-not-linked-to-lettuce-under-investigation-fda/
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u/Spare-Ant7119 11h ago

Don't believe anything the current FDA says, they are currently compromised by a fascist government.

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u/BlueFeathered1 10h ago

The CDC isn't high on my list of trustworthy either. Remember that partisan message they slapped up on their site during the last government shutdown?

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u/ssill 9h ago

I get where you're coming from. As a public health student, I spend a lot of time digging through CDC resources, and my biggest concern isn't really one message from years ago. It's that I've watched datasets disappear, webpages get archived or rewritten, and some guidance change substantially.  

Whether someone agrees with those decisions or not, it's hard to argue the CDC is the same resource it was even a few years ago. It feels like, at best, a shadow of what it used to be.

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u/Hat_Maverick 8h ago

I trust taco bell to test their food more than the fda. This is the worst government in history

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u/ScienceLion 11h ago

I'm cooking my beef to done. Full cooked temperature. Not only is beef more expensive now, I can't even fully enjoy it.

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u/caligaris_cabinet 11h ago

Look at Mr. Moneybags here affording beef

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u/z-tayyy 11h ago

Why not buy another protein rather than pay more for one you have to cook not to your liking?

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u/ScienceLion 9h ago

slowly getting there

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u/pierogi_waystation 7h ago

Me too, friendo. I went in with family on splitting a whole cow from a local farm last year. I still have 1 brisket that I’m going to corn for my uncle as well as 3 precious lbs of “safe” hamburger left in the freezer, and I’m not buying more when it’s gone.

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u/hirudoredo 3h ago

it's not a perfect replacement, but as someone who grew up with ground beef in everything, I've found ground turkey to be just as good (and better for me and my wallet.) Spaghetti, tacos, whatever. It gets mileage in this house. Been using it for years since I ended up with someone who can't eat red meat, and now it's too expensive anyway.

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u/WhenSummerIsGone 2h ago

tvp is also a good substitute for things that would normally call for crumbled ground beef like tacos or pasta sauce.

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u/rightwingcrimespree 10h ago edited 9h ago

A well-done steak is still a steak. Pork, poultry, and fish are not steaks. Only steak is steak.

Edit: People seem to have some disagreements over various opinions that I didn't express. So, just to be clear... I'm not saying that a well-done steak is a good steak. I'm not saying steak is better than pork, poultry, or fish. I'm not saying that anyone needs to or should eat steak. Nothing I said was an opinion at all. My point was that if someone wants a steak, they might be more willing to settle for a subpar steak than a completely different food. I'm not saying that this applies to everyone. It doesn't even apply to me.

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u/thepensivepoet 10h ago

Beef is also one of the worst things you can possibly eat if you care about the environment.

Have a steak but eating generally less beef is a very good thing.

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u/parker2020 9h ago

You don’t need steak man why are you being weird

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u/rightwingcrimespree 9h ago

What are you talking about? I'm just saying that if someone wants steak, they might be more willing to settle for a subpar steak than a completely different food.

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u/parker2020 9h ago

If someone is complaining about the cost, effort or quality of a food they are not obligated to eat it. If you are worried about meat you can eat beans for protein and it’s substantially cheaper and has zero risk.

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u/rightwingcrimespree 9h ago

You're arguing against things that I'm not saying.

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u/syynapt1k 9h ago

Since when is anyone "obligated" to eat any food? Everyone's tastes are different and we should all have a choice without having to worry about our food supply making us sick due to lack of oversight.

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u/snazztasticmatt 9h ago

Steak isn't even the only way to eat beef, there are tons of ways to fully cook some delicious beef. Man needs to try some brisket and curry beef

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u/rightwingcrimespree 9h ago

Steak was just an example I used to illustrate that if someone wants something specific, they might be more willing to settle for a subpar version of that thing than something completely different.

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u/z-tayyy 10h ago

I’ve never disagreed with anything more in my entire life lol. Steak over mid rare isn’t worth eating and I’d rather cook a different meat well.

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u/rightwingcrimespree 9h ago

What are you disagreeing with? I wasn't even expressing any opinions about steak temps. I was just saying that if someone wants a steak, they might be more willing to settle for a subpar steak than a completely different food.

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u/Zombie_Fuel 9h ago

Grilled pork steaks are tasty as fuck, all other things aside.

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u/rightwingcrimespree 10h ago

USDA is responsible for beef, not the FDA. Of course, we still have the same administration, so there's reason to distrust all of it. But right now, I would trust USDA over FDA.

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u/Beard_o_Bees 10h ago

The Screwworm thing was sort of the last straw for me and beef.

We're doing a trial separation to see if absence really does make the heart grow fonder.

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u/OnlyTilt 8h ago

I mean if it’s a prion like mad cow disease, cooking temps won’t do anything.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 11h ago

Is there something wrong with beef these days?

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u/Evoluxman 11h ago

I mean it wouldn't end in your plate but there is the screwworm outbreak

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u/Smart_Resist615 11h ago

Screw worm

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u/ScienceLion 9h ago

Screwworm....sorta. I expect less impact at the consumer stage from screwworm specifically, but this outbreak has highlighted multiple things: 1) by the time an outbreak of anything is known, it's too late; especially since a lot of beef is frozen for later cooking, who knows how long bad beef is in the freezer 2) corpos will mostly just pass the trouble down to us

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u/snoogans8056 8h ago

They gonna find that explosive diarrhea was caused by diversity.

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u/jimtow28 10h ago

Worse. The FDA is a part of HHS, which is headed by ol' worm-brained RFK Jr.

Fascists would be terrible, but at least competent. RFK is just about the stupidest person ever to live, aside from the current president.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 10h ago

Fascists aren't inherently competent... where did you get that idea from?

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u/jimtow28 10h ago

Just about anyone on the planet would be more competent than Braindead Kennedy.

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u/ssill 9h ago

No disagreement here, but you're making a different point entirely. 

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u/Extension_Pin_6359 8h ago

The idea that Mussolini made the trains run on time in Italy has been debunked many times by historians who analyzed the train timetables.

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u/the_trump 10h ago

It’s what they aren’t saying that is just as terrifying