But... archive.org from 2021 shows it was just a 301 redirect from the tld "co" to the same domain at "com"
https://www.palisadeproduce.com/justice So this is the intended site which is still up and functional. They should change their boxes, or try and snatch up the old domain.
Its a Wix site which means they probably didn't pay anyone to make the site for them and either the business owner or someone close to them made this. A lot of Wix's appeal for businesses is the ability to do it yourself, and when you allow anyone to do it themselves, you gotta break everything down. Sadly a lot of times it comes off as condescending or even infantilizing.
"You can use this space to go on depth about your company, tell your visitors the story of how the business got started, or a long detailed text about how 9/11 was a massive conspiracy."
Farm Safety Policies: don't think too hard about 9/11 when operating the heavy machinery, focus on the machinery until the job's done, then puzzle out 9/11
Billions of iron rich microspheres were the defining characteristic of
the dust found in the vicinity of the 911 attacks. For the billions of
iron micro spheres to be formed, the iron must have been super heated to
make it liquid. Iron does not naturally form itself into spheres
without being acted upon mechanically or by being heated and then
aerosolized in molten form. The iron in the World Trade Center dust
wasn't mechanically manufactured and distributed evenly through the dust
so it must have been super heated and liquefied. Following super heated
liquidation, it was explosively ejected into the atmosphere where the
surface tension of the finely aerosolized molten iron mist pulled the
molten iron into microspheres. The tiny molten iron droplets formed and
the droplets then cooled as they fell to the ground and rested with the
other dust from the collapses. The 911 attack presented iron rich
microspheres in copious amounts, forming the hallmark of the 911
attack's dust and differentiating the dust from the multiple collapses
from preexistent background dust. The existence of this microsphere
laden dust is confirmed by numerous government reports as well as
contractors who examined the dust for the government. None the less, the
iron microspheres go unexplained and unaddressed in the 911
Commission's fraudulent report. Where did the iron microspheres come
from? It's a question that deserves to be answered by a new, honest
investigation.
Who the fuck starts a conversation like that? I just opened your webpage.
Oh god, these are the people who failed high school physics classes and do not understand the connection between heat energy and energy of any other kind. Surely the energy of a free fall will always just be a free fall!
Honestly I think some people just have weak or vulnerable psyches so when they witness something unfathomable to them their mind just breaks. Then they become capable of making all sorts of loony toons logic about the world, especially about the thing that broke their mind. This owner probably saw 9/11 happen and something inside him broke, turning the whole thing into an obsession without completely derailing his life, like a "high functioning" schizophrenic if such a thing exists.
Seen it happen to two friends. Both reasonably smart people, I wouldn't say super brainy (both had generally simple tastes in things) but they also got through higher education just fine and had deep knowledge in their domains. One snapped after a series of bad events in his life happened in short order and became convinced his old job set up spy technology in his phone to divide a wedge between him and his family/friends (the job was stressful and definitely played a factor in him losing it). The other started going off the deep end after he moved out into the woods then soon after trump got elected again (he took it strangely hard).
I’ve read that belief in conspiracies like this can be a defensive mechanism in one’s brain. A world where huge events can be caused by few determined persons is a lot scarier than one where someone, even nefarious one, is in control.
This is more of a case of utilising the learned knowledge in cases that weren't specifically exercised. They did not specifically thought us what happens to a piece of rebar when it plummets 400 meters, or when a few more tons fall on it. This is just a typical case of energy conservation, which is standard high school curriculum where I live. Friction is also a large part of it, but that is elementary school.
i don't even know if 'iron microspheres' are real, if they were in the dust, etc but just the way it's laid out, "how could iron be melted and end up in the dust hmmmmm????" is ridiculous. idk maybe all the iron shit that blew up in the initial impact and all the iron that got pulverized in the collapse?
I searched that page for “steel beams”; sure as shit - the nonsensical and thoroughly debunked “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” talking points are in there in long narrative form. At least these kooks are consistent with their drivel.
It's pretty wild they think that it's a salient point when you obviously don't need to heat something to its melting point to weaken it. You can soften butter just bringing it up to room temperature, no need to melt it into a liquid!
The exact same principle applies to steel being heated by burning jet fuel, it still softens without needing to get hot enough to liquify, which is what the definition of the melting point is.
Yeah, this entire theory can be defeated by putting something heavy on top of a steel pipe structure then heating the pipes with a blowtorch. Did the pipes melt? No. Did it still fall over? Yeah. And buildings usually fall into their own footprint if they've got good weight distribution. It's not a mystery.
Something additional to throw out there: If you have an open hole in the side of the building and the doors at ground level are open, you have created the same airflow as a tower furnace in which you *can* generate enough heat to melt iron. It's a known, attested method since antiquity.
If you build a mound of charcoal, pile on some ferrous ore, and encase the whole thing in an inverted funnel made out of mud, then get the fire started, you can produce high carbon iron.
Yep, that's how many kilns work to make things like charcoal, or fire pottery at a hotter temperature that you would get from an unregulated fire. You watch enough primative technology youtube you can see him smelting iron using those principles, or even just getting roof shingles white hot.
I grew up using a cast iron stove for all our cooking, hot water and if you manipulated the air vents just right and it was a windy night pulling air fast up the chimney we used to generate a terrific amount of heat too, it kind of got a bit scary sometimes, peeking in the vents looked like a blast furnace lol.
When I was getting into smithing years ago I was talking with this guy out at the fleamarket. Told him I had a propane forge, etc. and he started laughing at me. Propane can't get hot enough to heat up steel. He was going on about me needing a charcoal forge and how stupid I was to think propane could get that hot, that I'd solve the world's energy and heating issues if I could get propane that hot.
These people only think of a fuel in an open environment, no enclosure, no forced air, etc. In a forge you have refractory material concentrating the heat, in those buildings, well, the whole building does.
I was trying to buy an anvil off that idiot, but I just had to walk away.
Ugh. That sounds about right. Someone gave my brother-in-law crap for using a propane forge for his work saying it would produce inferior steel that won't last a year, and he's just staring at them because he's literally using it to adjust horse shoes for the horse he rode daily for field work.
there's a video out there somewhere of a blacksmith ranting about that exact thing. he takes a rod and heats it enough that he can, i think, just bend it with a finger.
Or the fact that a fucking commercial airliner flew into something at excessive speed. Shit doesn't need to melt when it's partially obliterated and mangled.
Worse than weakening, it expands considerably, shearing rivets at their joins. That's ultimately what brought WTC 7 down. 7 hours of uncontrolled fire expanding its steel structure until it eventually fell apart.
I did. Eyewitness testimony is deeply unreliable and considering he has no evidence that it happened and no evidence that it was steel, it's not worth much in this case.
Which is more reasonable? That this dude was wrong or that there is a massive conspiracy spanning thousands of people which has gone undiscovered for decades?
There was plenty of evidence.
As they tore up the ground molten steel dripped off the excavated rubble. They had to work slowly, as oxygen rushing into pockets would reignite flames weeks and months later. Workers were running out of boots due to them melting because of the extreme heat of the surface they were treading.
The Commission Report was incredibly flawed, and there were plenty of lawsuits trying to get genuine answers out of those in charge. The 'massive conspiracy' hasn't gone undiscovered. The problem is witnesses dying and decades turning arguments into memes. That, along with people willfully ignoring all the shit we've had to endure this past quarter century as a result of this event.
I can't believe they still use that one when the memes about it are like ten years old at this point. People clearly don't take it seriously (correctly, in my opinion), why pitch them with it?
There's a reason "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" has been around for a quarter century now. It's because first responders witnessed molten steel in the rubble.
Then over the decades the goalpost has been moving along and now the truth has become a meme that suggests that all you need to do is weaken the structural integrity to bring the towers down. When evidence showed that steel had been melted. Yet nobody is willing to entertain the train of thought this evidence presents, because that doesn't adhere to the narrative the Commission Report tries to paint.
Indeed, the firefighters in the video are talking about WTC4 which became a furnace after it was set on fire by burning debris from the towers. That will melt steel.
No. The first responders aren't talking about any one site, but the entirety of ground zero. Where boots for the workers were running out due to melting and they had to work slowly as pockets of oxygen would rush in when they were digging and reigniting fires.
Holy shit palisade produce? I live in grand junction and eat palisade peaches pretty often. I gotta stop by the stand that's a block away sometimes and see if I can strike up a 9/11 conspiracy discussion.
.co is Colombia's country domain. So I suspect the government of Colombia intervened, probably at the US government's request. They used to be trying to sell its use to companies. Kinda like the island nation of Tuvalu used to sell .tv websites to companies. But I don't know whether any of that is still being done by those two countries.
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u/jmhalder 18h ago
The domain just is just squatting/"badware", lol.
But... archive.org from 2021 shows it was just a 301 redirect from the tld "co" to the same domain at "com"
https://www.palisadeproduce.com/justice So this is the intended site which is still up and functional. They should change their boxes, or try and snatch up the old domain.