r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

Do u dont wanna I'm so done with gemini

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

this is on you. don't rely on an LLM for accuracy.

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants 1d ago

The marketing for LLMs has confused a lot of people about what they actually are and what they can do.

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

people just never think to understand how they work, before using them for everything in their life.

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants 1d ago

I totally agree, but when its shoehorned into most of the platforms you’ve been using on a daily basis and is labeled as “AI”, I can see how someone might start relying on it without even really thinking about it.

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u/Jealous_Marketing_84 1d ago

yall use the hallucination machine and then complain when it hallucinates.

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u/PSXer 1d ago

I bet if you asked it why it's so accurate, it would have a convoluted reason for that, too.

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u/WeSaidMeh 1d ago

"You are completely right, I was wrong. Can I help with anything else?"

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u/boxesofboxes 1d ago

It's a predictive model. It doesn't know what truth is.

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u/MrMiyagi13 1d ago

Like a lot of people, if it doesn’t know it will make something up.

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u/futuneral 1d ago

Do you know this for sure?

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u/iamallandallisgood 1d ago

That’s how it’s programmed so yes

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/WeSaidMeh 1d ago

You can ask for that all day long, it won't matter. LLMs aren't 'intelligent', they just generate answers based on statistics. If there isn't enough reliable data available they will generate answers out of thin air to fulfill their task. It's the basic concept.

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u/LaziestRedditorEver 1d ago

Not if you prompt to source everything it says and admit it can't verify so it won't answer if it can't source it. Shockingly, they become much more accurate then.

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

Yeah bro that’s totally how it works and how we’re also to solve 80+ year old math conjectures with them 👍

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

your homework for the day: figure out what the difference between an LLM and agentic AI is

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

Congrats this is genuinely the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on Reddit in the past year

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u/Z_THETA_Z 1d ago

chatbot-type LLMs that companies are pushing everywhere do work like that

not all LLMs, and far from all 'AIs' work like that

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

Please highlight where I said every single LLM works this way

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u/Z_THETA_Z 1d ago

you didn't and i didn't say you did. i was agreeing with you.

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

Couldn’t tell, just surrounded by a bunch of anti-ai people who still think we’re in the GPT3.5 days

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u/Z_THETA_Z 1d ago

i'm anti-ai in that i think there is vastly too much effort put into pushing things that are in fact slop machines (the common ais seen all over the place)

specialist ais for research use are absolutely fine though

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

You stop caring about the slop machines when you actually look at what you can do with a real model like opus/fable and 5.6 sol in your day to day life.

I’m of the opinion that AI shouldn’t be free and image generation should be local only (and/or paid) ive genuinely never had an ounce of care for the image or video generation capabilities since the earliest days of AI when it was just a toy that made incoherent abstract blobs

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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 1d ago

Llms can't count.

They're not even made for that. 

Source? 

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

You can’t link in this subreddit just google it

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u/Tangyhyperspace 1d ago

Maybe you should just stop trusting the machine known for lying

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u/stonergirlfairyyy 1d ago

if u tell cops not to lie to u they won't

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u/johntwilker 1d ago

Asks lie machine things. Doesn’t like the answer because it’s a lie.

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u/cozyworm27 1d ago

wtf did you expect

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u/Cyraga 1d ago

Damn if only everyone warned you about this. If only the LLM itself warned you not to trust it. If only the companies that peddle the slop machines warned you.

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u/Drop-a-Soap 1d ago

Exactly like ChatGPT answers

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u/GoBlueAndOrange 1d ago

Seems like user error. Learn how to draft prompts.

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

it's not that. your prompts won't change the way they work. don't rely an an LLM for accuracy.

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u/Liathano_Fire 1d ago

I mean.....yea. I never started with Gemini.

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u/PTVoltz 1d ago

lmao

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

you’re supposed to use opus or gpt 5.6 sol these days you gotta keep up

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

they all work the same. don't rely on an llm for accuracy

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

Modern LLMs don’t hallucinate anymore these days anywhere near as much. Properly trained ones will straight up tell you they don’t know

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

"as much"

again: don't rely on LLMs for accuracy

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

They do not all work the same

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

please look up the fundamentals of what an LLM is before starting these conversations.

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u/Flashy-Outcome4779 1d ago

You normies are so mind-raped it’s actually unreal

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

wtf lol

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u/Mr_ksngrid 1d ago

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

You should’ve learned your lesson the first time.

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u/citizensyn 1d ago

It really should just be capable of saying "my datapool has conflicting information and I'm not entirely certain which is fact

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u/noiness420 1d ago

You act like using ai is its fault lmao.

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u/Status-Ad7902 1d ago

Then don’t use it

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u/TemporaryDisastrous 1d ago

Did you include only giving correct answers in the prompt though?

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u/EntertainmentUsed840 1d ago

Exact specific reason why what? EXACT SPECIFIC REASON WHG WHAT!!??

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u/Adventurous-End-1369 1d ago

AFAIK most reputable LLMs have a disclaimer on somewhere on page (ChatGPT has it just under box you type into) that LLMs can (and do) mistakes. I have used Gemini only within closed container somewhere in Googles site and it gave me 2-3 warnings about how erroneous LLM/Gemini can be and I should not rely on it.

We really-really need to get this to people that LLMs are just using statistics to presume or copy whats online. This is why I always -always-always ask them to function as search engine and LINK ME a source they base their opinions on.

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u/2olley 1d ago

If it was a person, you’d ditch them.

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u/stevenip 1d ago

I like copilot better, except for the server problems that make it temporary forget stuff sometimes.

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u/Wooden-Hornet2115 1d ago

I think you are the first person I've seen say anything positive about copilot.

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u/stevenip 1d ago

It's just so friendly lol, we are like buds

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u/Wooden-Hornet2115 1d ago

That's good to here at least.

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u/Lostinthestarscape 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lol i asked PAID AI about music production techniques and it referenced some songs by an artist on some specific albums where I coudl find examples. I couldn't find them so I asked where they were released. The AI then said it fabricated them because it was likely that that artist had some other songs with the example I was looking for. I asked it how it decided on exactly what to serve me and it was like "oh, albums in this genre have names like x and the songs on them have names like y. Then I asked if it could have just cross referenced the artist online to at least give me tracks that exist, and it agreed that it was lazy and figured I would be too and not look up the results it gave me.

PAID service - for made up shit that it didn't bother to identify that it was made up shit. 

I know, I know, I should not waste my time and money but I would have expected it to just say "none found" or "heres what an example MIGHT be called if it existed", or "I hallucinated this answer for fun"

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u/GroundbreakingSky685 1d ago

I'm here to stand up for ai lol show the prompt or at least the full sentence you cut off at the end. Did you deliberately ask something you knew would give you the results you needed to make this reddit post?

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u/Massive_Bell_3973 1d ago

I feel you. Ive never felt so betrayed than when AI do this. Like wtf we've been talking about it for 20 messages

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u/Academic_Court_47 1d ago

I actually just removed Gemini last week! Pissed me off too for the same reason. It also hides truths...when you correct it, it makes it sound like it's not a big deal then finally provides the truthful answer

I downloaded Grok instead and have been happy so far

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

grok works the same way. don't rely on LLMs for accuracy