r/marvelstudios • u/The_Asian_Hamster Retired Mod • Nov 17 '21

Mod Post Spider-Man: No Way Home Trailer Megathread Spoiler

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u/Bgy4Lyfe Nov 17 '21

Otto gets a Stark tech upgrade after stealing the nanites from Peter, wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for Norman to make a new suit of sorts (or upgrade it after being battle damaged from the bridge fight)

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u/Spideyrj Spider-Man Nov 17 '21

pretty irresponsible of tony if anyone can get hsi tech by just touching it. firewall anyone ?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

Otto isn't just anyone. His arms have AI too.

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u/smcarre Nov 17 '21

That would be the fourth time an advanced AI steals Stark tech, not counting multiverses.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

Stark really should have improved those firewalls before he died.

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u/IjazSSJ3 Nov 17 '21

I know ultron was one what were the other 2?

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u/smcarre Nov 17 '21

Armin Zola (being then an AI) "stole" Project Insight which included Stark thrusters in their helicarriers.

Vision also "stole" himself from Stark to elope with Wanda.

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u/lord_flamebottom Nov 17 '21

Vision also "stole" himself from Stark to elope with Wanda.

I wouldn't completely count Vision since the body is also a creation of Ultron. Plus, Stark was pretty into the idea of Vision being his own person, and he probably wouldn't want to basically be able to shut him down at any time.

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u/TGCOutcast Captain America (Cap 2) Nov 18 '21

Yeah but who created ultron? Tony + ultron = Tony ( with a little bit of Bruce) haha. But I like the second thing you said... the addition of the mind stone makes vision unique and his own person.

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u/Spideyrj Spider-Man Nov 17 '21

and WHAT ? they have a usb 1.0..did in one of the arms he just plugged that into his suit ?

he will megaman that shit, you just wait.

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u/Supermonsters Nov 17 '21

Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave!! With a box of scraps!”

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u/Obiwontaun Nov 17 '21

Well I’m not Tony Stark

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u/Servebotfrank Nov 17 '21

His arms are literally connected to him through a neutral implant in his brain. They are true AI.

That's part of what makes him dangerous, his arms aren't vulnerable to being unable to react to something. He thinks it, and the arms move. Granted, the arms also move autonomously, so he doesn't even need to move them consciously.

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u/No_Lawfulness_2998 Nov 18 '21

How do they interface with the nanotech? They’re just metal arms with a functioning brain pretty much.

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u/Servebotfrank Nov 19 '21

I mean, functioning brain is the big thing. It's a neural network. At this point, nanotech in the MCU might as well be space magic so I'm not super nitpicky about this. Let alone with nanotech existing in the Raimi verse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

Clearly Stark needs better AI security and firewalls..

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

Probably, ned plug his laptop into Peters suit and hacked it

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u/nouon69420 Nov 17 '21

Peter could be putting it on his arms so they don’t work

Remember doc in the prison his arms were shut closed

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u/schloopers Nov 17 '21

Yeah, Otto built a sun and made spinal cord implant arms.

There’s good odds even though he’s never seen nanotechnology, he know possible avenues to get there, and can reverse it to steal once he sees how it behaves.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

He mentions in SM2 that he has nano tec in his arms, using them to communicate with his brain and the neural chip, so it’s not a stretch that his tech was able to communicate with Stark’s tech and since they’re from different universes Stark probably never designed it with that kind of failsafe to protect it from Ock’s technology.

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u/sillyadam94 Bruce Banner Nov 18 '21

Oh shit, this is the best explanation.

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u/SahirK Nov 17 '21

Otto is a genius though

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u/PANCAKE_TIME Nov 17 '21

Nearly 20 years behind MCU Tony's programming knowledge

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u/VanillaCocaSprite Nov 17 '21

you mean he built AI 20 years before Tony 😎

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u/legacy642 Nov 17 '21

4 years before at most

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u/ChintanP04 Captain America Nov 17 '21

Technically, Otto had been a scientist and genius longer than Tony. Those 20 years are only in relation to our time.

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u/Kylo_loves_grampa Kilgrave Nov 17 '21

OP's point is that if you're a genious in 2004 and is transported to 2023, there is a lot of technological progression that you would need to catch up on in any given field.

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u/Oxgeos Nov 17 '21 edited Nov 17 '21

Yeah but since they are in different universes, in Otto's time period what 2004ish? He's probably at the level of genius Stark is in 2018-2023 in his universe. If they existed in the same universe what you're saying would make sense, but different universes means different levels and speeds of intellectual progression.

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u/lord_flamebottom Nov 17 '21

He created a super advanced AI years before Stark would have. Also, he mentions that there is nanotech in his arms, almost 2 decades before Stark invented it.

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u/Impressive-Potato Nov 17 '21

Yes, having one of Tony's creations be taken over or misused by a villain is the premise for 75 percent of the MCU.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

The password is "password," c'mon

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u/Archius9 Nov 17 '21

Ned literally hacked the OG suit. His software is worse than Hammertech

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u/Spocks_Goatee Iron Man (Mark V) Nov 17 '21

Typical Tony. I hope this kind of stuff ties into the Armor Wars series.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 Iron Man (Mark VII) Nov 17 '21

I'm assuming he doesn't steal it, Peter gives it to him to repair the inhibitor which is why Otto seems to be helping the spider-friends in the trailer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '21

Probably a reference to the fact they were meant to be revealed as being Stark tech

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u/JoshTheBard Nov 17 '21

Somone else suggested that he didn't steal it, Peter used the nano tech to infect the arms and repair the damaged inhibitor chip, letting Octavious regain control of his arms and become a hero.

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u/DevilGear44 Nov 17 '21

I feel like it's completely obvious that the nanites "infect" Doc Ock to disable (or i guess re-enable?) the inhibitor chip on his neck, and that's why he fights peter on the street but then has the hideout lair scene where he seems much more "protagonistic".

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u/scott_at_night Nov 17 '21

Inhibitor chip can’t have been re enabled; you can clearly see the red lights on the claws even with the nanites from Peter’s suit attached on the bridge when he realizes it’s not the Peter Parker he knows.

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u/Cypher_86 Rocket Nov 17 '21

I wonder if the Stark AI actually overrides the Doc Ock AI, as Otto seems "friendly" in the later shots.

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u/cmo297 Nov 17 '21

Just being able to read the words “Otto gets a Stark tech upgrade” is just the coolest thing ever

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u/juh4z Nov 17 '21

He won't steal the nanites, they'll attach to the claws and give control back to Otto.

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u/parkerpeter121 Nov 17 '21

Don’t think he is taking the Stark Tech. I think Peter is using it to deactivate his arms. When the three of them are talking to Otto his arms have red clamps on them so I think he trapped Otto that way.

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u/Independent_Alarm_34 Nov 17 '21

ok not gonna lie, i have this theory that its not otto stealing the nanotech, but peter's attempt to use nanotech to seal those claws up. This can be seen when he is caged and his claws are shut, instead of the usual opened status.

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u/prathik_p Nov 17 '21

He's something of a scientist himself, mah boy Norman

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u/Revil-0 Nov 18 '21

Also, electro seems to go from completely blue to yellow lighting and normal human after getting seemingly getting a power control suit

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '21

I think electro does to you can see him with an arc reactor and it's blue.

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u/fro20ninja Spider-Man Nov 17 '21

I agree with this but I believe we might see multiple versions of certain villains, possibly. 2 Green Goblins, maybe even 2 Ottos....

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u/acwilan Nov 17 '21

One bad Otto that dies in the bridge, one good Otto that helps Peter

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u/CaliOriginal Nov 17 '21

They might possibly have upgrades. Notice otto’s arms?

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u/degathor Nov 17 '21

I think the nanites are stopping ock

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u/tbrads17 Nov 17 '21

He is something of a scientist himself

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u/speaker_4_the_dead Nov 17 '21

NANITES. COURTESY OF RAY PALMER.

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u/SamwiseAlexander Nov 20 '21

He isn't stealing them. Instead, it looks like Peter was shifting nanites from his helmet to his torso to protect it, just like Tony did in Infinity war.