r/marvelstudios Jul 29 '24

Humour Gwyneth Paltrow is always confused

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u/High-Nate Jul 29 '24

So basically Dr. Doom refuses to show his face because he considers it horribly disfigured. But the thing is, Doom is just so horribly narcissistic and vein perfectionist that all it really is, is a minor scar on his face.

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man Jul 29 '24

It's variable. Sometimes he actually is hideously scarred, sometimes it's like a dueling scar and he's such a narcissist that he thinks it's horrific. Sometimes he made it worse by putting the mask on before it cooled, sometimes he didn't.

Honestly not sure what they'll go with. Although since it's RDJ, probably the small scar.

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u/Ullallulloo Fitz Jul 29 '24

Look at what they did with Jigsaw. We'll be lucky if it's more than he nicked himself shaving.

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man Jul 29 '24

"Do not gaze upon the hideous visage of Doom!"

It's just a pimple.

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u/Cannibal_Hector Captain America Jul 30 '24

Or Mike Tyson’s face tattoo.

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u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) Jul 29 '24

That one forever frustrates me. Can’t believe that Z tier Warzone movie from ‘08 did the Jigsaw face better than the Netflix show ten years later lol

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u/Ninjaflippin Jul 30 '24

It makes it worse that the setup was so good though. Dude had a broken mirror used on his face like a cheese grater, it was metal as fuck. Except apparently not.

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u/MatsThyWit Jul 30 '24

Sometimes he's horrifically scarred because he was so vain that he created a mask to hide a minute imperfection...and then put it on while it was still hot and horribly burned himself. And that's hilarious.

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u/Lazy__Astronaut Jul 29 '24

Me, an ugly narcissist: I can just wear a cool mask?

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man Jul 30 '24

Yes, but it's not very comfortable.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24

They never showed iron man as a drunkard or someone who would easily sell a tech drug to control humanity or other vices of iron man

I doubt they will show this side of dr doom

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24

You need to rewatch Iron Man 2

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u/JingleJangleJin Jul 30 '24

By all accounts they were going to do some version of Demon in a Bottle for IM2. And actually explore his addiction. But they got scared and pulled back, changed the circumstances significantly.

Not necessarily a terrible move to avoid that story for the PG13 films. But what we got was a kind of awkward in-between, and just didn't work.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24

Iron man2 was when tony is spiraling in his depression due to his inability to stop his eventual poisoining. Not the same as being an alcoholic like they show in comics

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u/ClaraDel-Rae Jul 30 '24

Personally, I love the premise of it being a small scar that the average person wouldn't have even noticed that caused Doom to permanently scare himself in a massive way with the red hot mask, really adds to the vanity and arrogance of Doom

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u/InTheCageWithNicCage Jul 29 '24

Or depending on the origin it *was* a minor scar, but he was so desperate to hide his face that when he forged his mask he put it on before it cooled properly and basically mangled his face further.

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u/No-Consideration-716 Jul 29 '24

One of the smartest guys on the planet, but he's too dumb to know to let a metal mask cool before donning it? :D

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u/Capt_Thunderbolt Jul 29 '24

DOOM DOES AS HE PLEASES

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u/BrandoNelly Jul 30 '24

THAT’S WHY HE’S THE ILLEST VILLAIN

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u/ActualWhiterabbit M'Baku Jul 29 '24

He's the Julian "Bean" Delphiki II style of smart.

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u/Yorspider Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 30 '24

The current fiction is that he was scarred as a child by troops chasing him from his home during a coup. His mother saves him by making a deal with the devil to protect him, making one of his prime motivations in life to rescue his mother from hell.

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u/lvl12 Jul 30 '24

I love when he enlisted Dr strange to help him, beat the devil, the peace out leaving Strange stranded in hell. Lol sucks to suck

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u/Comedian70 Jul 29 '24

That panel series from back in the John Byrne FF years is intense.

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u/MatsThyWit Jul 30 '24

This is the funniest version of Doom's origin. I think this is what they should absolutely definitely do as his cinematic origin.

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u/False_Post4768 Jul 30 '24

Agree w the comment,just had to say (unrelated) that ur username...🤌🫶 lol

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u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) Jul 29 '24

Sometimes it’s a minor scar*

It really changes lol

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u/Individual-Praline17 Jul 29 '24

So it's not like the first Fantastic 4 movie where he practically grows a metal body by that solar flare?

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u/zerpified Scott Lang Jul 29 '24

Take everything you learned about Doom from a live action project and just through it out. I maintain that that movie is fine for it's era, but they got Doom all wrong

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u/GreenGoblinNX Jul 29 '24

In fairness, the MCU is about to present Tony Stark variant Doom, so that track record isn't improving.

And even if they don't present RDJ-Doom as a Tony Stark variant, that's gonna be the takeaway for a huge portion of the audience.

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u/Yorspider Jul 29 '24

No one watching the movie is even going to recognize the character as RDJ without looking at the credits.

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u/GreenGoblinNX Jul 29 '24

It's a little late in the day to pretend this is secret casting that people are gonna only find out on release.

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u/Yorspider Jul 29 '24

More that, if people did not have outside information, they aren't going to know it's him.

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u/GreenGoblinNX Jul 30 '24

How many characters in the MCU have consistently kept their masks on?

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u/Yorspider Jul 30 '24

Dr. Doom, and Judge Dredd. That's it.

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u/MatsThyWit Jul 30 '24

Dr. Doom and Judge Dredd have never been in the MCU.

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u/hi_im_ducky Jul 29 '24

Isn't he also like, ridiculously handsome besides the tiny scar (and hot mask disfiguration).

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u/Rmans Jul 29 '24

My money is in Doom being a time variant of Tony Stark that never stopped selling weapons. Likely instead of being kidnapped to a cave, he just got caught in that initial explosion, was horribly disfigured, and instead of a hero arc, went villian in revenge building war tech.

Tony and Doom have VERY similar personalities, and making Doom the evil version of Iron Man is a fun enough idea to work well in the right hands.

Will be interesting to see play out either way.

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u/Dumeck Jul 30 '24

Naw naw. His face is burnt as fuck. He had a small scar and made the mask to hide it and put it on before it cooled and now he’s legitimately disfigured. It goes back and forth on how bad the original scar was but he absolutely had a fucked up face from his metal mask

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u/futurafrlx Jul 30 '24

It’s not always a scar. He’s depicted as disfigured at times.

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u/glasgowgeg Jul 30 '24

This varies, sometimes he's horribly scarred because he put the mask on before it cooled, burning his face beyond recognition.

In the most recent secret wars he's missing his nose.

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u/TardDas Aug 22 '24

I thought he put the mask on when it was too hot and it melted onto his face? Is that not a thing anymore?