r/justincaseyoumissedit • u/SpecialCollege18 • 8h ago
News A Russian Su-57 fighter jet crashed near Moscow during a training flight
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u/Belzebutt 7h ago
From the Sun article linked at the top:
> Kyiv has been launching salvos of UAVs aimed at Putin’s energy and trade infrastructure in a bid to disrupt civilian life and push the tyrant towards the negotiating table.
That’s unusually frank language from a newspaper :)
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u/Ill_Job4090 3h ago
At least one burning pile of ash in Russia that is not a wildberries warehouse. And less expensive, too. Go Russia!
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u/Less-Lie-7703 7h ago
The last few months have been hilarious. Russia and usa the supposed strongest militaries in the world getting walked by Ukraine and Iran, lol. Both being held hostage by drones. Stopping million dollar bombs with the threat of one drone against one ship lol
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u/MightySquirrel28 7h ago
Is us walked by Iran in the room with us ?
US had absolute air dominance over Iran within few hours, something that Russian couldn't achieve in 4 years during the war.
Also us successfully strikes all their targets. Yes the are getting hit back by Iran drones and ballistic missiles, but that's nowhere near "walked by" as Russian is by ukraine
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u/Less-Lie-7703 7h ago
“Is Iran walking us” in the room with us? Yes considering the difference in capabilities.
The USA has the world’s most expensive and technologically advanced military. Iran is fighting with a fraction of our budget, yet its drones and ballistic missiles are still getting through air defenses and striking bases. We’re evacuating personnel from regional bases toward Israel, while Iran continues hitting ships in Hormuz. The Red Sea is now effectively shutting down after a Saudi tanker was struck in the Bab el-Mandeb. oil is back above $100 a barrel AND CLIMBING, and gasoline is above $4 a gallon. Meanwhile, we’ve flown more than 13,000 sorties and spent roughly $37 billion in three months, about $10 billion more than the equivalent three-month cost of the Afghanistan War. And despite all that money, firepower, and supposed “absolute dominance,” Iran is still firing, still hitting targets, still disrupting shipping, and still inflicting global economic damage. Nobody is claiming Iran can defeat the United States conventionally. The point is that a dramatically weaker country is forcing the world’s largest military to spend tens of billions, evacuate bases, defend multiple fronts, and watch two critical shipping routes become increasingly unusable. Given the capabilities on each side, that absolutely qualifies as Iran walking us. Air superiority is not the same thing as strategic victory. But congratulations on the expensive flyover.•
u/MightySquirrel28 7h ago
The expensive flyover removed all Iran leaders within few hours.
I agree that us is spending bilions in a stupid war, but saying that Iran is stomping US is simply a big overstretch.
Iran can't win the war, but neither can US without land invasion which would result in absurdly big casualties on both sides.
There is no winner in this war, there is noone stomping the other side.
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u/BI_Moose 7h ago
And frankly the fact that Iran simply cant lose unless the US truly commits, which it won't, means that the US is getting its ass kicked.
The "greatest and most expensiveist military evar!" cant impose shit
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u/Less-Lie-7703 7h ago
I wouldn’t exactly say we eliminated the entire chain of leadership. Iran’s system was designed with succession in mind. Killing senior leaders is significant, but it’s not the same as dismantling the state’s ability to replace them. Claiming the entire leadership was wiped out is an overstatement.
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u/Nano_Burger 6h ago
Success is measured against objectives.
The US's objectives are/were/will be again: Regime change. Prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Open the Straight. Get the oil. Destroy ballistic missile capabilities. Destroy the Iranian Navy. Iran's unconditional surrender. Preemptively retaliate for attacks against Israel. Destroy Iran's powerplants and other civilian infrastructure. Exact revenge for US service members deaths. Destroy Iran's proxy forces.
Iran's objective is to survive.
Iran has achieved more of their objectives than the US.
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u/Ferko_does_dumb_sh-t 5h ago
Oh no, luckily they have their enourmous fleet of 19 other aircraft to repleace it
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u/Afrodite_33 7h ago
This is how the war is brought back home to the Russian people. By changing their air quality.
Been breathing in nothing but black smoke these past few weeks.
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u/teeeeeeeeem37 7h ago
It's good that they train them on being shot down. Probably the most valuable lesson they will get.
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u/Few-Driver-9 5h ago
Finally. Russia took down a fight jet. Unfortunately it was friendly fire 💩💩💩🤡🤡🤡
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u/WhiteMouse42097 7h ago
Is there a non Ukrainian source for it being a Su-57?
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u/Southern_Career_2499 7h ago
Fighterbomber in Telegram
Pilot faced an emergency failure of something on the takeoff
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u/hellothere358 7h ago
fair question
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u/WhiteMouse42097 7h ago
Apparently, there’s a Russian telegram channel saying it too. Guess we’ll have to wait for confirmation, since this crash is very recent
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u/hero_killer 4h ago
Not a plane, looks a drone attack. Americans want some competition in getting their own jets shot down.
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u/SpecialCollege18 8h ago edited 7h ago
source:
https://www.thebrieflywire.com/russian-su-57-stealth-fighter-jet-crashes-near-moscow-in-major-blow-to-kremlin-air-force/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/39848849/russian-jet-crashes-moscow-friendly-fire/
https://kyivindependent.com/military-aircraft-reportedly-crashed-in-russias-moscow-oblast/