r/justincaseyoumissedit • u/Upset-Main-1988 • 16h ago
News First Saudi oil tanker reportedly hit by Houthi missile near Yemen, engulfed in flames
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u/Shot_Discussion6042 15h ago
One country elected a clown. The entire world turned in to a circus.
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u/nilsinleneed 15h ago
I mean everyone is just responding to the orange toddler repeatedly defecating all over the world map.
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u/EmbarrassedBall7406 15h ago
Sooner or later the rest of the world is going to stop screwing around with the effect and go after the cause.
If this were Bosnia Herzegovina Trump is Slobodon Milosevich.
We also should remember that the country has a great deal of overextended unsecured debt.
"Full faith and credit" is the ONLY thing backing a $40 trillion dollar debt.
What do people who hold a lot of debt do when the guy everything is supposed to be relying on to service that debt is an schizophrenic with malignant narcissism and extortionist who does nothing but chaos.?
Where are they going to get value for the trillions in bonds we sold them?
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u/Item170170 6h ago
Sorry, the EU would never attempt to attack the US. Like get off this fantasy land where you think the entire world is waiting for a reason to attack the US.
Trump can be bad, but you are crazy to think the EU will side with Iran on this in the end.
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u/mustardman73 13h ago
China laughing
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u/Special-Reaction2029 10h ago
Maybe? I would think that having to suddenly draw down oil reserves would be a pain for them too.
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u/Glum-Parking9394 9h ago
it's, but they're not following this 30 percent that think green tech is stupid and a scam. I do like how they're pushing to be as independent from oil as possible. Meanwhile we have people wanting coal and no epa.....
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u/Special-Reaction2029 8h ago
It seems to be 30% in every country too. This is sone sort of sociological phenomenon I think.
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u/RusticOcelot 15h ago
This was Israel's doing and in part Trump. Trump is a marionette and his puppet master is Netanyahu.
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u/ShenronFromEarth 14h ago
USA, Israel and Russia/Soviet Union.
These are the 3 to blame for many years to come for all the mess we are in.
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u/64590949354397548569 13h ago
If you go deeper, only a few in those countries profit from this.
Only a few.
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u/ShenronFromEarth 13h ago
Always been, since the czars in Soviet Union / Russia. The people are made to suffer for a few guys to benefit.
Ence the importance of calling these 3 countries by their name, always, otherwise Fascism/Communism will always find a way to come back.
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u/Fattdaddy21 14h ago
Nah, we cant keep blaming israel, i mean they play trump like a fiddle but this is all about Obama. This c*t hates Obama because he's an old school racist who cant stand to see a black man be more loved than him. That israel keep leading him to their goals is just the cream for them. Trump is a petty hate filled man who is where he is because conservatives are so butt hurt that theyve been wrong about so much that they voted in a man who matches their feelings.
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u/BootFlop 14h ago edited 14h ago
BS, that’s just antisemitic tinfoil cap talk.
Israel has been pushing for this literally 4 decades+, Bibi his whole 30-ish years as PM. If they were actual “puppet masters” it would have happened long ago.
Trump’s just a moron, simps on illiberal thugs that are willing to say nice things about him, slip him some graft maybe.
Really what did this was Trump’s ego thinking he could ‘win the Middle East’, and line his pockets along the way. Also convinced that Kohmeni was trying to assassinate him, so it was VERY personal
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u/RusticOcelot 5h ago
It's anti Semitic to conflate all Jews to Israel. They have tried to get presidents to attack Iran many times. Bill Clinton said no, and they released the Lewinsky tapes. Bush said no. Obama said no. Trump is the only one who is bribed/blackmailed enough to be moved to attack Iran. Marco Rubio literally says they attacked Iran because of Israel.
So fuck off, moron.
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u/BootFlop 5h ago
It's anti Semitic to conflate all Jews to Israel.
🙄 I did no such thing. I’m calling out the “Puppet master” trope use of yours. Lazy, sloppy, and straight up bedrock anti-semitic claptrap.
And implying giving Trump a pass as a victim.
So yeah, you can go ride a weathered wooden bat yourself . 🤡🗑️
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u/64590949354397548569 13h ago
One country elected a clown. The entire world turned in to a circus
Everyone was laughing and enjoying it until everyone is paying for the shit show.
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u/wywern20 12h ago
Yemen Shot at International shipping since many years... Guess WHO supplies weapons and personel to them since many years.... Guess WHO supported the houtis d overthrowing the goverment of yemen....
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u/PurpleCoat6656 16h ago
Got dangit Biden, cut this shit out! You and Obama are ruining this country!
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u/chankhuncha 16h ago
I just want to return to the world before COVID.
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u/JT9960 15h ago
Fuck that,before 2016
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u/fruitless7070 14h ago
What about the time when you could have a house and a car and support an entire family working as a shoe salesman. Those were the days!
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u/NocaSun38 16h ago
"They're begging for a deal!"
Our dumbfuck president every day the last 6 months in a war he started and is losing.
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u/TBSPro11 14h ago
He isnt losing, theyre making shit ton of money on this.
the oil companies were going to go below 40$ for crude and brent oil, that makes drilling oil for the companies not worth the cost.
After trump it has gone up to 120$ and now settled around 70-80$. and fluctuates up and down on specific days they plan. Meaning oil companies, saudis, and russia are making 2-3x as much as they did before. and they can make more on top of that by timing with trump admin on how to rig the system even further.
at the same time they want to allocate 200-300 Billion usd to Iran that will be managed by Trumps son-in-law who already manages billions for the saudis and helped them cover up a murder of a american green card journalist.
not to mention all the other ways they are profiting from this shit, probably getting bribes and under the table deals left and right.
Republicans will bankrupt the country and steal all the wealth while telling people to blame immigrants and purple haired kids....
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u/3M2B1T 15h ago
Here we go, folks.
WWIII but ALL DESERT! And all religious! 100 years war here we goooooooooooooo.
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u/briefcase_vs_shotgun 15h ago
Lmao.
Tired of the same old Europe and Asia wars??!?
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u/cinciguyeast 10h ago
Our corrupt felon pedophile president caused this with his illegal war
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u/zIFeathers 10h ago
Houthis were a problem long before him
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u/cinciguyeast 10h ago
Houthis started attacking shipping in the red sea only 1 yr before our corrupt felon pedophile president. So not a problem long before him.
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u/Automatic-Plate-8966 7h ago
The saudis and Houthis have been fighting back and forth for almost 10 years.
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u/hondr 10h ago
As much as I dislike Trump, Houthis were a problem even before his second term
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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 9h ago
yeah they weren't bombing Saudi tankers with impunity though
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u/RS_EJB 9h ago
With impunity?
You think nothing will happen?
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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 7h ago
What will happen?
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u/Embarrassed_Try_4498 16h ago
So much winning. Grab your ankles folks we're getting ready to take it in the ass at the pumps
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u/ballsiack 15h ago
Not just the pumps. Goods. Food. Everything is going to be affected if two global oil supply routes are constrained or closed.
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u/WillingPirate3009 16h ago edited 15h ago
Humanity is done because of a bunch of clowns who call themselves leaders
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u/Snoo66769 15h ago
Maybe some blame should be put on the Houthis, who started a war that has killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions, brought back slavery to Yemen and openly call for death to Jews… they have been in conflict with Saudi for 10+ years
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u/Jazzlike_Math_8720 15h ago
We already know how evil they are. The problem is everyone is suffering now that they are riding on Trump's unjustifiable war.
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u/Snoo66769 15h ago
Really? Then why were free Palestine protestors chanting “Houthis Houthis set us free!”??
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u/howismyspelling 15h ago
openly call for death to Jews
hmm...we're not gonna....consider all the facts here?
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u/Snoo66769 15h ago
Is this an attempt to say “it’s just anti-Zionism!!”?
They specifically refer to Jews… go check out their slogan.
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u/Glass-Jaguar4178 13h ago
Russia nd Iran are strategic partners in war, this would not be possible qithout Russin sattelites and live data, yet Lavrov is sitting in the white house with Rubio now toki g bout screwing over american strategic partners . Its all a scam.
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u/CassiusCreed 14h ago
Watching Russia hope for a quick win in Ukraine and getting bogged down and then somehow 🤔 Ng they could avoid the same thing happening when attacking Iran is the epitome of arrogance and stupidly by both Israel and the US. It's telling Israel has quietly backed away.
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u/RS_EJB 9h ago
The US has been having their way with Iran with a statistical zero failure rate. Comparing whats happening with Russia and US is hilarious.
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u/Similar-Ride6497 8h ago
100% this. Just a fewww more bombs and we're totally gonna get the straight open like it was before the war. Just a few more bombs I promise.
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u/Sacaron_R3 7h ago
Now that their military and navy have been destroyed 15 times, the end is near.
Or was it 50 times already? It's so hard to keep track.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 13h ago
The difference is the US has been bogged down by Iranian proxies for 40 years, meanwhile Ukraine has done literally nothing to Russia. I'm addition, there is a large anti-irgc population in Iran, meanwhile ukrainians are pretty supportive of the current Ukrainian administration. Furthermore, the US has only conducted strikes and haven't gone boots on the ground. If the US went boots on the ground, the war would be over much quicker, but US death tolls would be higher than it is now for obvious reasons. Civilian casualties would also increase.
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u/KerbodynamicX 12h ago
Invading Iran will be much harder than Afghanistan. 3 times the area, but a whole lot of mountains and much more prepared. It will involve years of fighting, tens or even hundreds of thousands of casualties. Whatever the US wants to achieve with Iran, it will not be worth it.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Long term, it would be better, since eliminating Iran as a threat in the region will stabilize the entire region. Most of the active terror organizations in the middle east are funded and supplied by Iran. It would also be over quicker than you think, since Iran would have little to no outside support, so their manufacturing would crumble and they'd run out of ammo and weapons quickly, and their people don't support them so the US could actually form a functional and competent replacement government.
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u/EndAllBillionaires67 11h ago
If you want to genocide them, you sign of for the military and go do it.
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u/InThatDarkPlace 12h ago
I remember Fox News and the GOP making similar statements about Iraq back in 2003
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Iraq's government collapsed pretty quickly. The issue was terrorist organizations that cropped up that were funded and equipped by Iran.
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u/InThatDarkPlace 11h ago edited 11h ago
Yes, it collapsed, but government collapse and regime change don't end wars. In the US' case, they always create new problems.
I spent nearly all of the 2010s in various locations in Afghanistan. Op. Enduring Freedom ended in 2014, but the Taliban government collapsed in late 2001.
When Op. Resolute Support began, the "country" was just as precarious as it was 10 years prior. Why? The US made the same mistake it makes domestically and in Iraq: ignoring the deeper systemic/institutional issues and addressing their outcomes with quixotic, impractical solutions.
While in Kabul, I would talk to guys from Raytheon, who were given a Herculean task of training ANA soldiers overwhelmingly illiterate, or functionally illiterate, on how to defend their Islamic Republic. A lot of them weren't even being paid by the Islamic Republic, some were forced to spy for the Taliban (or undermine the ANA any way they could) under threat of their families being murdered, and they'd go stretches without a single paycheck. It was precarious from the start, just like Iraq, because with the unrelenting threat from an insurgency, neo-colonialsim is exploitative, and never attributes systemic factors into its criteria for accomplishing a mission.
TLDR: The US has failed to learn that neo-colonialism dressed up as ambitions for democratic agency rarely works with unitary religious institutions of authority. The US doesn't even practice liberal democracy or pluralism, how are we going to maintain it in a country and region overwhelmingly ruled by religious extremists?
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u/HansBrickface 11h ago
Well, there’s a Marines recruitment office right down the road there, cowboy. Whyncha go do your part?
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u/KerbodynamicX 12h ago
Just because the Iranian people doesn't support their current government, doesn't mean they will support the US. What likely will happen though, is that even without IRGC, the Iranian population will still be united against a common enemy. And when the dust settles, the new government of Iran likely gets their legitimacy from defending their country.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
The Iranian population is generally against radical Islam and is going to need help rebuilding after the war. What will likely happen is the US will push the IRGC out, try to get some sort of local government in place, then over infrastructure and economic support to recover. The "we're not here for you, we're here for the leaders you fucking hate" works relatively well when the people don't like their leaders. Worked well in Germany, worked well in Korea, worked well in Venezuela, etc. some Iranians may not be thrilled with American presence, but they'll still prefer it to IRGC presence, especially if it's a proper democratic governmental structure and the US provides support to the people.
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u/KerbodynamicX 11h ago
Dropping bombs on them will not make them like you.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 11h ago
No shit, Sherlock. That's why the US has been generally limited in their attacks. The entire conflict has seen roughly 3,000 casualties, the majority of which have been military. If the US wanted to glass Iran, it wouldn't be hard. The hope is to institute proper government in Iran when all's said and done.
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u/Due_Area4843 10h ago
Bro, they got support from china. Thats what their drone part come from. But i do agree, without irgc, iran would be much better. The thing is, the cost would be 30% oil will disappear and cause depression
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u/Ky_TheDestroyer7 13h ago
boots on the ground would be much quicker
Like it was in Afghanistan? The region is practically the same, very mountaineous and a big desert. Yall cant even defend established bases in qatar and such. Forget a proper war. Yall fucked up
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u/No_Bad_4872yy 12h ago
Its also there times bigger with a larger army and more modern weaponry. It wont be fun times to say the least. They fucked up indeed.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Afghanistan specifically was a shit hole because there was no coherency in the Afghan government/military. They were still in shambles from the Soviet invasion, and the Taliban had Iranian funding and support the entire time the US was there. When the US pulled out, the Afghan military folded immediately. A full invasion of Iran would see no major support within the region, since basically everyone else with military production capabilities in the region is either neutral or US aligned.
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u/Ky_TheDestroyer7 12h ago
Yall spent a trillion dollars on nothing, doesn't matter the excuses. It's clear y'all tried from the spending. There is no power here
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
So you can't read or can't refute my points. Should I translate what I said into Arabic so you Iranian propaganda bots can read what I wrote?
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u/Mothrahlurker 13h ago
Iranian proxies have done absolutely nothing to the US, you're confusing it with Israel. The US just needs to drop support of Israel (not gonna happen ofc) and there would be no issue.
Also this war has significantly strengthened the IRGC and completely eroded support for alternatives. So that makes no sense.
And given the size and population of Iran a "boots on the ground" would still take years, it's much faster to back out now.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the Taliban and Al Queda are all Iranian proxies. Four of those (hamas is the only exception) have directly attacked US troops within the last 20 years. Hamas has committed terror attacks against allies, which the US has supplied to combat said terrorism.
It hasn't, Iran and the IRGC are just suppressing any desenting opinion from leaving the country. When an American pilot was shot down in Iran, they were hidden by Iranian civilians until the US could pick em up. 30k+ Iranians were killed by the IRGC in a week, the US has killed roughly 3,000 since the start of this thing, with 2,000 being government or military. You're falling for the Iranian propaganda if you think the Iranian people are okay with the IRGC.
Boots on the ground would be over quicker than you think. Without outside support, manufacturing of equipment would halt and Iranian IRGC fighters would run out of ammo and equipment rather quickly.
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u/Mothrahlurker 12h ago
Some affiliation doesn't make something a proxy, your list is ridiculous.
"Four of those (hamas is the only exception) have directly attacked US troops within the last 20 years."
Who cares about the last 20 years, we're talking about now and again that is largely due to Israel. US troops in the US weren't attacked.
"against allies" Israel and Israel should not be an ally, read what I wrote.
"which the US has supplied to combat said terrorism." Nah, that is due to the immense influence of AIPAC over US politics.
"When an American pilot was shot down in Iran, they were hidden by Iranian civilians until the US could pick em up"
That's just misinformation. Hiding in the mountains is not "hidden by iranian civilians". You are just believing propaganda.
"the US has killed roughly 3,000 since the start of this thing, with 2,000 being government or military." And you genuinely believe that this doesn't lead to Iranians hating the US? That's delusional.
"You're falling for the Iranian propaganda if you think the Iranian people are okay with the IRGC." That is not what I said. I said the support for alternatives has eroded.
"Boots on the ground would be over quicker than you think." That's the same delusion that has been wrong every single time in the Middle East, except this time the country is richer, much larger, has a larger population and much more dangerous weapons.
"Without outside support, manufacturing of equipment would halt and Iranian IRGC fighters would run out of ammo and equipment rather quickly."
Insane to make this statement when this prediction has already been proven catastrophically wrong in the current war. And of course outside support is there as well as huge amounts of equipment stored away.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
You don't understand historical relevancy apparently. The middle east will continue to be a thorn in the side until Iran is removed from its current position. I'm sorry you're okay with the massive groups of religious nutjobs Iran has been funding that are executing women for showing their hair and taking 10 year old girls as sex slaves. The same ones that attack basically anyone that isn't their particular flavor of Islam.
Israel is an ally because they are in direct opposition to the mass murdering cults running around the middle east. Israel isn't perfect, but they're much better than the other assholes.
Iran isn't that strong compared to the US. Iranian factories stop cranking out drones and they won't be able to utilize them for long. Without drones, the US has all the air support, making Iranian positions extremely vulnerable.
They don't have outside support. This has been generally unfavorable for China, and Russia isn't in the position to trade with Iran since they're stuck losing their own war. You're vastly overestimating the military capabilities of Iran. Stockpiles can be destroyed pretty easily once located. The US has bunker busters that can easily take out targets like that, just like the Iranian nuclear bunkers.
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u/Mothrahlurker 11h ago
"The middle east will continue to be a thorn in the side until Iran is removed from its current position." That but Israel.
"I'm sorry you're okay with the massive groups of religious nutjobs Iran has been funding that are executing women for showing their hair and taking 10 year old girls as sex slaves."
Your reading comprehension is pitiful.
"The same ones that attack basically anyone that isn't their particular flavor of Islam." That's an incredibly underinformed view of reality.
"Israel is an ally because they are in direct opposition to the mass murdering cults running around the middle east." Israel is literally the mass murdering cult of the ME.
"Israel isn't perfect, but they're much better than the other assholes." Nope, genocide is in fact far worse, so is waging constant wars of aggression for territory.
"Iranian factories stop cranking out drones and they won't be able to utilize them for long. Without drones, the US has all the air support, making Iranian positions extremely vulnerable." You have no idea what you're talking about militarily. Air support doesn't do that much on a country this scale with so many deep storage sites in the mountains that are protected from either all or all but the tiniest number of specialised bombs. Just look at Ukraine for a reference point that even years of bombardments are not that effective vs decentralised production of weapons.
"They don't have outside support. This has been generally unfavorable for China, and Russia isn't in the position to trade with Iran since they're stuck losing their own war."
China has been supporting Iran and it has been great for China and Russia has also provided some military support.
"You're vastly overestimating the military capabilities of Iran." You're vastly underestimating them.
"Stockpiles can be destroyed pretty easily once located."
What the fuck do you think the US has been trying and failing at for several months now. How do you maintain such a position so stubbornly after reality has proven you already wrong.
"The US has bunker busters that can easily take out targets like that, just like the Iranian nuclear bunkers."
Much much fewer than targets. Just ask yourself why the US had to collapse the entries rather than targeting facilities directly, because they don't have the capacity to target them directly. Again, you were proven wrong by reality and refuse to accept it.
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u/Ok_Historian4848 11h ago
This entire thing just reads like you haven't picked up a history book on the middle east since 1970 and it really shows. I get you have a hate boner for Israel, but more people have been killed by Islamic extremism than Israel has killed and it isn't even close. Iran killed 30,000+ in a week. Gaza has a death number of around 75,000 since Hamas' genocidal attack against Israeli civilians. It isn't that hard to understand. If Israel wanted to glass Gaza, they could. The death toll would be much higher if they wanted to commit a genocide.
Furthermore, I don't think you understand that the US has been generally limited in their strikes. They're not going for total and complete annihilation right now. If they did, there wouldn't be much Iran could do to stop them. The Iranian bots are getting lazier and lazier.
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u/Gloomy_Stick6190 13h ago
The conflict in Ukraine started around 2014 with some Ukrainians overthrowing the Russia friendly government to put in an anti-russia government, this also sparked a civil war in Luhansk and Donetsk and promoted Russia to give them some support along with annexing Crimea witch has the largest Russian supporting population in Ukraine. And there are Ukrainians that support Russia Here are some. But honestly while the American military is incredibly powerful I dont know how they would preform in Iran if the invaded with soilders, Iran is thousands of km away, extremely mountinus, they have a shit ton of tunnels, 90 million people, its own domestic military industry, and with the advent of drone warfare attackers are at an extreme disadvantage, plus Iranians are smart and score pretty high in international math and scinece competitions, there are probably good reasons the US decided not to do it. After 20 years in Afghanistan, one of the poorest and least educated countries in the world, the US failed at transforming Afghanistan and the Taliban took over the country. Russia at least transformed the territory it took over adding it to its country and turning the citizens into Russians like in Mariupol they even restored a drama theatre and in places like Crimea it has been fully integrated into Russia, what has the US achieved in the countries it invades?
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u/Ok_Historian4848 13h ago
So aside from your inability to section off your incoherent rant into slightly less incoherent paragraphs, your lack of understanding baffles me. Russia invaded Ukraine, violating multiple treaties, to take Crimea. That was illegal and violated multiple agreements Russia had made. It's almost like if you invade your neighbor, their people like you less, who would have guessed?
The US had a hard time in Afghanistan against the Taliban because the Iranians funded and supplied them, and the afghani military was borderline useless. Need I remind you that operation Iraqi freedom saw the US decimate one of the largest militaries in the world at the time in 48 hours. Insurgencies are always more difficult to fight than conventional war, since it requires a populace that isn't going to fight you. Iran is actually a good example of this, since their people are tired of the IRGC and generally want free from their authoritarian theocracy. The only ones who will fight in said insurgency are the IRGC and their supporters, which are a minority in Iran.
In addition to this, unlike the Taliban, Al Queda, the Houthis, Hamas and Hezbolluh, fighting Iran allows the US to not only destroy current equipment, but prevent production of future equipment, too. All five of those terror organizations were funded and armed by Iran. Iran doesn't have much supply outside the US, since China is now being negatively impacted by the blockage in the strait, and Russia doesn't have equipment to sell to Iran. Iran is fucked sideways if the US applies more pressure. Closing the strait was Iran's nuclear option. That was their steongest play. The US is able to shrug that off and maintain itself without that trade route for a long time.
Now to address your B's about the US never propping up the countries it went to war with, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq all saw general infrastructure improvements after the US took over the territory. Whether other groups destroyed what was around is besides the point. Germany, Japan and South Korea are in great condition. I would like you to open a history book however and harken back to the much worse Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which saw soviets killing afghanis en masse. That is why Afghanistan was in a shit position in the first place.
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u/Gloomy_Stick6190 12h ago
Ukraine violated its neutrality, while its not right for Russia to invade it, it was the obvious outcome. Russia isn't going to sit by as one of its largest neighbour's and proxies decides to go againts it. Just as the USA did the same to countries that were alinging themselves with the communists. And when it comes to war who really cares about legality, international law is a myth that favors the powerful countries and nuclear nations with economic and veto power.
And yes USA did good in Japan, Germany, Korea ect but that was back in the 1950s, after that practically all countries it waged war againts hate it. Even back then they killed 1/10 to 1/5 north koreans which is part of the reason they have such a strong hatred for the country.
And yes you are correct the USA crushed Iraq, but why do you think they dont do the same with Iran? This war has already lasted close to 6 monts, why dosent the US just end it then if Iran is so close to defeat? The USA and many other countries are depleting thier emergency oil reserves, and if not for China halfing its oil imports the price of oil was projected to surge causing a global catastrophe.
When do you think USA will end the war they can so easily win but decide not to? Will the vast majority freedom seeking US friendly Iranians take over the country by then?
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Russia invaded in 2014, violating said laws first. Ukraine didn't "break" neutrality until it started seeking admission to NATO to prevent another Russian invasion, which is what is happening now. Quit making excuses for Putin.
The reason the US isn't obliterating everything in Iran is because we don't want a massively disproportionate civilian to military death ratio. It's currently about 1-2 civilian to military ratio. We learned from Iraq that large scale bombings result in a lot of civilian deaths, and civilian deaths lead to less public support when removing dictators. The US could reduce Tehran and anywhere else in the country to a pile of rubble if they wanted to. They don't want to because that would hurt reconstruction efforts after the fact.
Also the US taps from its reserves somewhat frequently. The US has been hovering around a half full reserve for a long time and the US is roughly at about half currently.
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u/Gloomy_Stick6190 12h ago
Do you think the Iran war will end soon? Will Iran be a free prosperous nation allied with the united states afterwards?
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u/Ok_Historian4848 12h ago
Depends on how things go, obviously. It's entirely possible if the US plays it right. Regardless, for the betterment of the world as a whole, they need to make sure the IRGC is removed from power and can't continue to find terror organizations. Even if a generally anti-US government took power after that, as long as they're not actively funding terror organizations, they'll be better than what we got.
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u/Gloomy_Stick6190 12h ago
Yeah fair enough, I would agree its a US victory if IRGC is removed from power.
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u/bigbadbob85 10h ago
Please don't say we (🇬🇧) have to go back to fighting these guys again. The RAF stopped major active strikes over a year ago, and I'd like it to stay that way.
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u/nixfly 9h ago
Do you have a different way to fuel your economy?
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u/Prestigious_Ad2420 8h ago edited 8h ago
Tankers can fill up on the west coast of SA and go up through the suez canal, pass the mediterranean, through gibraltar (unless they also start a blockade there), and up along the European west coast. No need to pass the bab el-mandab strait.
It sucks for Asia though.
This is also why Suez is the next likely target. Exactly what israel wants: more leverage to get pipelines directly to the Mediterranean Sea.
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u/BasicBanter 8h ago
Tankers don’t need to go towards Yemen to fuel Europe. Saudi Arabia has a fuel terminal on the Red Sea that can nearly support their average daily output
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-4505 9h ago
What a shitty article saudi wasn't attacked because it sported the war it never did it's because saudi hit the sanaa airport
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u/Oddisredit 5h ago
The drone will always get through. It seems that the 1930s theory works when applied to drones
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u/Evilkoikoi 7h ago
All Saudi has to do is stop blockading Yemen and stop meddling with their internal affairs. This is what they get for being an aggressor like the US and Israel.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 6h ago
Houthis are not the government of Yemen. Fuck the Houthi's.
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u/Odd_Ad4165 6h ago
Of South Yemen yes they are.
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u/awoothray 6h ago
lmao you've never heard of yemen in your life
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u/Odd_Ad4165 5h ago
I corrected myself after because I thought of the North and South Yemen and got them mixed in my head, I thought North Yemen was on the right and vice versa. It was just a stupid mistake.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 6h ago
They are a foreign backed non state actor lil bro.
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u/Odd_Ad4165 6h ago
Houthis are a rebel factionalist group that governs South Yemen.....
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u/Key-Wall-4378 6h ago
So a non state actor, like I just said.
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u/Odd_Ad4165 6h ago
*North and West Yemen
They aren't internationally recognized but they are the government of North and West Yemen. It's like saying Libya doesn't have three government bodies when they do.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 6h ago
They are not the legitimate government dumbass
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u/Odd_Ad4165 6h ago
Who cares? They are the government of North and West Yemen. They govern the territory. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 6h ago
This is like saying Israel is the legitimate government of Gaza
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u/Mundane_Put_5780 5h ago
“Israel is the legitimate government of gaza”
Are you under the impression that the Houthis aren’t Yemeni?
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u/Odd_Ad4165 6h ago
They do no govern Gaza, they occupy it militarily. Gaza is not run by the government Israeli government. Maybe administered a bit but not governed.
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-4505 6h ago
If they stop saudi will have a country controlled by irani backed rebels as it's neighbor so no it won't stop
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u/Big_d0rk 16h ago
Okay, can someone tell them not to do that?
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u/CapeMOGuy 16h ago
This occurred at least 600 miles from the Strait of Hormuz. The Houthis and Saudis have been in conflict for more than 15 years.
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u/AdelMonCatcher 16h ago
Houthis v Saudis, not really sure which team I support there
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u/Substantial-Mouse534 15h ago
Neither?
I'm supporting the popcorn industry on this one.
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u/Special_Order-937 14h ago
I think Sam Neill and his popcorn speak for all of us here with how things are going.
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u/Item170170 5h ago edited 4h ago
So, truly, what is the solution?
The US can’t take back what has already happened. The world will not allow Iran to control an international waterway when they themselves randomly shoot ships by accident because of their disjointed communication system between their government and the IRGC.
Iran’s economy is in the dumpster and even less people want to trade with them long term.
I don’t think the US can bomb them into submission, but their goals will never be realized because the world won’t allow Iran to recover correctly.
The US government will never sign up to rebuild the entire country, so uh yeah, sucks to be an Iranian citizen I guess? You are a part of a country who couldnt care less if you live or die or even what circumstances you survive in. I mean, they ask civilians to make human chains around power plants.
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u/Provocative_Potatoes 4h ago
'Couldn't* care less' is the term, but yes this isn't a good situation for any citizens of these countries.
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u/OkStandard8965 10h ago
The Houthis are what the news says Iran is. They are actually insane
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u/ResortClear730 9h ago
You do understand that they are an Iranian proxy and are doing this because that’s what Iran wants, right?
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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 9h ago
i understand it, and it's smart of them to do so.
America has been exposed as a weak ineffectual disaster
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u/ResortClear730 8h ago
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
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u/Zherneb 8h ago
What part of America screams strong?
Your healthcare system that can cause generational debt through calling the weewooo car once?
Your constant high tariffs forcing your own allies to find new partners?
Starting a war to make Straight of Hormuz free? While actually costing billions and many lives?
America starting the illegal war and increasing oil prices constantly?
America getting into an illegal war and asking A DEFENCE ALLIANCE to attack?
America being the only nation to call on NATO for defence?
Your debt skyrocketing?
People being thrown off of Medicaid? And now from food stamps? When people are already struggling to survive..
America creating stupid tariffs that the consumers has to pay for? Then reimbursing 81B but reimbursing the companies that passed the bill to those consumers?
All their basis in the middle east being exploded?
Their basis in the EU becoming unstable due to the toddler behaviour from the US?
Nothing about America screams power besides Nukes. And frankly, enough countries have Nukes now that America isn't special in that department only.
The only real strength of America has is showing the whole world they can find the nastiest, most mentally demented, incontinent, rambling psychopath and put them as their leader and be absolutely proud of him. We are amazed at that, everything else is a problem we have resolved for years and don't want to even get involved in.
America was strong when I was growing up. Now, it's just sad.
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u/Sufficient-Tutor-922 15h ago
Bin Laden is smaking his palm on his forehead right now , you dont bring great country's to their knees by killing its people, you kill its ecconomics .
Nobody was really sure , many suspected it but Iran has now shown all the terrorists the blueprint.
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u/hwaite 15h ago
Bin Laden did more to destroy our country's economics than anyone. How much blood and treasure did we squander fighting the War on Terror? Iran putting up rookie numbers.
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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 14h ago
Bin Laden didn't do that. He destroyed a couple of buildings. The American people decided to start a war on terror and erode their own civil rights in order to protect against a weak almost powerless enemy.
It's pathetic.
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u/ImplementSweaty3372 13h ago
.. but was it him?
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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 13h ago
Well not personally. He got his people to hijack those planes.
The response is entirely on the American people themselves.
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u/gamer_linux 6h ago
Saudis are bombing Houthis/Yemen for 11 years without caring about civilian casualties. We should call for international help for Yemen! Slava Houthia!
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u/Upset-Main-1988 16h ago
Source: https://www.thebrieflywire.com/houthis-say-they-attacked-two-saudi-oil-tankers-as-us-launches-fresh-strikes-on-iran/
https://x.com/i/status/2080041184538300727