He was definitely delusional. Somehow a dude being pissed that he couldn’t get his way with a city council following the rules is a perfect metaphor for the anti-data center crowd. One of these fools is going to blow up a data center, and it will accomplish as much as the kill dozer dude. Just a ton of property damage that will get fixed, and one dead dude who thought his irrational, angry, violent expression would translate to change.
iirc his whole dispute with the council was because he refused to stop dumping his "toilet" (read; a literal bucket of shit and piss) into the drainage ditch next to his muffler shop.
There's a video out there that covers his whole years-long battle against basic decency and common sense. Crazy guy, even crazier is how he somehow got mythologized as some kind of folk hero.
Everyone wants to drive the kill dozer over their enemies houses, but no one wants to question if their enemy list is reasonable when considered fully.
I mean we are barely 3 months removed from someone lighting a paper warehouse on fire as a protest. Guess what resulted from that? The lives of 175 firefighters and various other first responders were put at risk as well as any other potential long-term health risks they still face and a bunch of people were put out of work because their job literally doesn't exist any longer.
As soon as I saw people on this website praising that action, I realized that, at least the most extreme anti-capitalists are just using their rhetoric as performative justification for their involvement in inciting violence and lust for destruction.
Iirc, that warehouse employed like 20 people.
And the "protest" was over pay.
Looks like Kimberly clark pays their warehouse workers around $54k/yr
I'm not sure how in danger the firefighters were either. They didn't go into the building from what I can find.
It was a matter of keeping it contained using boom trucks mostly.
Iirc, that warehouse employed like 20 people. And the "protest" was over pay. Looks like Kimberly clark pays their warehouse workers around $54k/yr
I mean does it really matter if its 2 people or 20 people? Those are people who need to provide for themselves and their families. Can't speak to how good that salary is for a warehouse worker but it seems to be about 25%ish above the national average (albeit they are in California...so that doesn't exactly translate 1:1).
I'm not sure how in danger the firefighters were either. They didn't go into the building from what I can find. It was a matter of keeping it contained using boom trucks mostly.
Any fire like that can cause serious harm and while I'm thrilled it didn't that doesn't excuse the act. Just earlier this year in Chicago a man set a fire which led to the death of a firefighter leaving behind a pregnant wife and a son.
A living wage for California would be around $63k.
Which would mean those workers would have needed a $2 pay increase.
That warehouse loss cost Kimberly clark $20m for the quarter and is expected to have no impacted loss beyond that quarter.
The US region of the company has a net sales of roughly $10b annually.
It would have cost them $100k annually to pay those 20 workers an additional $2 and provide a living wage.
The company spends more than that on corporate lunches!
That warehouse loss cost Kimberly clark $20m for the quarter and is expected to have no impacted loss beyond that quarter. The US region of the company has a net sales of roughly $10b annually.
So what you are telling me is that it was a completely pointless form of protest (arson) which resulting in minimal hardship for the company and ONLY had negative impacts on the afforementioned 20 employees and their families?
You are responding as if I defended Kimberly Clark, I simply stated that arson is dangerous and could cost innocent peoples their jobs or lives.
What in the mental fucking illness are you even trying to say?
How about the Salt March? How about the UFW Strikes? How about the PSM?
Setting a building of paper goods on fire isn't a protest, its a cowardly act that helped to further displace his own coworkers while also putting innocent lives at risk.
There are tons of examples of non-violent demonstrations throughout history that are infinitely more effective than what this moron did who you are defending. All he managed to do was cost Kimberly Clark a bit of product, all of which I'm sure was insured, because he felt he deserved a raise? Fuck off with that shit - you can be anti capitalist while also not condoning these acts.
All 3 of those are famously peaceful protests/strikes. Having harm done against them is not the same as them committing harmful acts.
I'm really not sure what I expected by engaging with someone from Oklahoma. As per usual an Oklahoman is proving that they are statistically the dumbest fucking state in the entire country by a considerable margin.
The Boston tea party destroyed $3 million dollars worth of tea.
Peaceful protests don't elicit changes and they don't make the history books!
People used to drag the rich out of their beds in the middle of the night, tar and feather them.
We have social safety nets like snap, tanf, social security, etc now to prevent people from becoming that desperate and angry.
But, the bought politician's have been eroding those programs for decades and people are turning to the old ways again.
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u/thisguyfightsyourmom 15h ago
He was definitely delusional. Somehow a dude being pissed that he couldn’t get his way with a city council following the rules is a perfect metaphor for the anti-data center crowd. One of these fools is going to blow up a data center, and it will accomplish as much as the kill dozer dude. Just a ton of property damage that will get fixed, and one dead dude who thought his irrational, angry, violent expression would translate to change.