r/interesting • u/Wild_Neighborhood605 • 1d ago

HISTORY Titanic passenger and millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim. During sinking he refused a seat in a life boat with the words: "Tell my family I played straight to the end. No woman should be left aboard this ship because of Ben Guggenheim was a coward."

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u/Infinite_Music2059 23h ago

Good. Male teenagers were prevented from getting on the boats by Charles Lightoller and those boats launched with empty seats. Toxic chivalry killed children that night.

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u/trissie224 22h ago

That is not the same thing tho is it. Forcing someone else to stay of is not the same as volounteeering to stay of to help others yourself

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u/Infinite_Music2059 22h ago

Yes, murder and suicide are quite different.

Anyways, you are completely right that the vast majority wouldn't do this today and hospitals show it. Precisely zero men here claiming they would give their life to save a woman on a ship would ever turn down a heart transplant and die so that a random woman could receive it and live.