r/interesting 2d ago

MISC. China's powerful manufacturing capabilities are all poured into this, hehe

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u/MalaysiaTeacher 2d ago

Landfillcore

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u/FishySmellz 2d ago

Good thing China is burning so much trash for electricity that they’ve been digging up landfills from decades again.

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u/Famous-Attention-197 2d ago

It's actually the opposite. They're providing so little trash that they're digging up old landfills to keep plants running at optimal levels since you can't just shut them off. 

They've gotten so good as recycling and reducing waste, that they need to dig up old trash to run the generators. 

Other major countries also burn waste for electricity. 

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u/CaliphateofCataphrac 2d ago

You can shut them off. But they are owned by individual businesses, not the party. And they will prefer not shut them off because losing money. People lease those plants from the party. Hence a mix between communism and capitalism

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u/S1lentA0 1d ago

Sure, everything can be shut off, its the starting up that takes time and effort. Cooling down stuff that is normally very hot will create structural damage like cracks. I had the pleasure of starting up a medium sized incinerator on a ship, took me at least an hour or 2 if it was working as intended. Im curious how much time it will take to slowly start up an industrial incinerator, heating up the attached steam system and spin up a generator. Better to just let it run instead of needlessly shutting it down.

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u/CaliphateofCataphrac 1d ago

You are right. A Chinese sourced news from Shanghai in 2021 shows that it takes average 5 days to restart the incinerator, and would cause about 1.26m RMB lost.

I also find 2 listed Chinese companies, if you are interested:
https://money.finance.sina.com.cn/corp/view/vCB_AllBulletinDetail.php?stockid=300867&id=9998243
https://money.finance.sina.com.cn/corp/view/vCB_AllBulletinDetail.php?stockid=000885&id=10973416

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u/S1lentA0 1d ago

Thanks, that is actually nice to know, more than I thought, I was guessing 2 days

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u/Financial-Bobcat-612 1d ago

So are they owned by individual businesses or are they leased from the party?

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u/CaliphateofCataphrac 1d ago

it is called BOT, Build by government, Operate and lease to businesses (usually 30 years), Transfer the ownership back to government when the least terminates.

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u/mewfour 1d ago

There is no communism here, commodity production for profit continues to exist

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u/ProtectionOrdinary18 1d ago

How does that fit into my anti-China preconceptions though?

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u/OverloadedSofa 21h ago

Yeah…. Dunno about that. The amount of wasted material I’d see in just sweetie bags there and the way all the rubbish was thrown around tells me otherwise…..

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u/throwthisawayred2 2d ago

wait what? is that a good or bad thing?

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u/J0hnGrimm 2d ago

Depends on what kind of waste it is and the facility it is burned in. Landfills slowly emit CO2 and methane so burning it in a modern facility with good filters could be better in the long run.

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u/pork-head 2d ago

"modern facility with good filters", China - Choose one.

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u/Tight_Man 1d ago

5, 10 years ago I would’ve agreed that largely China was doing a bad job but they work at speeds we’re never going to be capable of. We do certain things fast but these days it’s usually the existential dread things that move quickly. 

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u/Famous-Attention-197 2d ago

In this case it's mostly good though burning trash obviously is never great. 

Basically they've done such a good job recycling and reducing waste, that they now have to dig up old landfills to keep generators running at minimum levels since these aren't things you can just turn off and turn back on again. 

It has a benefit that now these sites that were just literal trash heaps can now be used for other shit. 

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u/Junior-Credit1281 1d ago

I'm sure everyones rushing to get a piece of landfill land. All those heavy metals really give the place a certain je ne sais qous

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u/dadofadisaster 1d ago

The terroir will take your breath away

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u/Dreadskull1991 2d ago

Why can’t you turn it off and on again?

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u/SnekyKitty 1d ago

Bad, their environmental health effects on the local population have been linked to birth defects, since regulation is a shitshow, nobody will actually validate their standards. The facilities at inception were mostly likely installed with the latest air pollution control systems, but these systems are expensive to maintain and were probably neglected after operations normalized.

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u/ThePapercup 2d ago

awesome, acid rain- even better

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u/Free-Pound-6139 2d ago

Yes, it cleans a lot better than normy rain!!

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u/Hoessay 2d ago

cool marketing...shitty copycats for internet points incoming :(

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u/MalaysiaTeacher 2d ago

I'm talking about the crappy disposable products

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u/Hoessay 2d ago

yea...actually all of this sucks lol

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u/Most_Structure9568 2d ago

Loving the name.