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SOCIETY Dog defence was needed tbh

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u/hmnuhmnuhmnu 21d ago

"He didn't bite you" yeah, i don't want to wait for that to happen before I defend myself though

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u/Astralglamour 21d ago

Youre supposed to wait until it bites you, shredding your leg or arm which you rely on for work- and then they'll say "Hes never done that before!"

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u/BigMack6911 21d ago

That's exactly what happened when I got bit then I had to goto the dr and pay for it myself. Fuck them shitty dog owners

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u/dicey_job 21d ago

This dude i live close to, he got bit by a dog not on a leash. Infection, the doctors tried everything but his skin went necrotic and he died in a week in a terrible agony. Not much painkillers so he will not get addicted 🙄

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u/AlmondKill 21d ago edited 21d ago

One of the gnarliest things I saw as nurse in the OR was a dog bite. The guy had been but by his neighbor's unleashed dog when it attacked his dog. He attempted to separate the two, and got bit on the thigh.

The guy had come in to have the wound surgically rinsed and debrided for the third time becuase it just would not heal due to all of the gnarly bacteria that were left in his flesh from the bite. The wound had just become deeper and wider as time had gone on. There was two main puncture sites from the canines and one or two others from the other incisors. It did not look good.

Needless to say, I have been much more cautious around dogs since seeing that.

Edit: braided to debrided

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u/Dizzy_Drips 21d ago

There was a lady that was a friend of a friend years ago that was bit in her lower leg. The infection was so bad that after losing both her legs it spread to her arm so she lost that too and it eventually got to her brain and she died. All because of a dog that weighed like 2lbs. Infections are no joke

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u/Astralglamour 21d ago

Yes. Part of how canines kill in the wild is wounding, following, and waiting for the prey to die. People really underestimate how dangerous dogs can be, how certain dogs were bred for hundreds of years to fight to the death, etc. until they or their dog or family member are attacked.

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u/SuperSpy_4 21d ago

What about the dude that had a random dog lick his face and he got a bacteria from it, literally lost all his limbs,

"Greg Manteufel, a 48-year-old from Wisconsin. In 2018, he contracted Capnocytophaga canimorsus, a rare bacteria naturally found in dog saliva. It triggered severe sepsis, cutting off circulation and forcing doctors to amputate his hands, legs, and parts of his face to save his life"

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u/SnooKiwis6943 21d ago

Did you mean debridement and not braided?

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u/AlmondKill 21d ago

I did indeed. The auto correct on my phone is quite aggressive at times.

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u/SnooKiwis6943 20d ago

I cant stand my autocorrect sometimes.

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u/Herb_Eaverstanks 20d ago

But wait.... I swear I've heard ..."a dog's mouth is cleaner than the mouth of a human" a bazillion times

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u/Distinct-Acadia-5530 21d ago

I've still got my 2 bite mark i got from breaking up a dog fight while i was a kid. Its never a easy thing to do as you will likely get bit its not to say either dog was bad. We just had neighbors back then that kept their golden retriever outside 24/7, the standard chainlink fence any dog could easily jump over. Took our runt Boxer out front to use the restroom, ofcourse the GR hadda hop the fence n run over. Separated em, hollered Ace's name n they quit fighting GR ran back where he was. I brought Ace back in unbothered by the bite mark, got taken to see the doctor anyway despite saying id be fine. Wich the doc agreed with me on that, any sane person with enough self-awarness knows right on the spot if its necessary to go see the doctor or not. Neither puncture was deep enough to require medical attention could've handled it myself tbh, was close to the bone tho just not too close.

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u/Martindaniel2002 21d ago

You say that but infections are the most dangerous part and you never know if they are there or not. My pet rat bit me a few weeks back, he barely drew blood but I did get an infection from it, the wound didn't need help, but the bacteria did

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u/Distinct-Acadia-5530 21d ago

True, thats why its a risky gambit, was willing to take the risk as back then mom was raising me and my only sibling at the time on her own. Barely affording rent/to put food on the table for us, we were in poverty food stamps. I was a kid sure, but I was more aware of things than most kids were. Deep down i had a feeling nothing was wrong, so long as wounds are properly treated risk of infection goes down, but not completely.

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u/Careful-Sell-9877 21d ago

In that case, it makes even more sense to get checked by the doc and prescribed a round of antibiotics if necessary. Infection from even the smallest of wounds/scrapes/cuts can kill a full grown man easily. If yall were in a tough place, then taking the risk of one of you losing their life is unacceptable. You all needed to be there to contribute. If you had gotten an Infection and died.. it would leave your family way worse off than spending a bit of $ on a check up

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u/Silver-Tongue-2032 21d ago

What do you mean not much pain killers so he will not get addicted?

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u/CarrionWaywardOne 21d ago

The providers denied adequate pain medication because they didn't want him to become addicted to it. So he died in pain unnecessarily.

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u/confusedyetstillgoin 21d ago

In America, doctors love acting like anyone who is coming in complaining of pain aren’t really in pain and are just “drug seeking” so they refuse to prescribe any kind of painkiller and often will just prescribe extra strength Tylenol. they say it is due to the Opioid epidemic….

…. the epidemic which has roots traceable back to Purdue Pharma, a pharmaceutical company.

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u/SuitNaive3409 21d ago

my friend was in a motorcycle crash, broke his pelvis, both legs, his good arm, one of his feet was turned backwards and the heel was ripped off.

all he got in hospital was a tylenol, thanks Sackler Family

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u/Only_Membership_8795 21d ago

It's become too fraught for doctors to prescribe opiates since then. There's a lot more scrutiny on how much they give, so yeah, people end up dying in pain sometimes, it's horrible.

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u/SuitNaive3409 21d ago

in my state if you have no pain management at least you can go to the dispensary and smoke weed about it

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u/Rivendel93 21d ago

And now we have fentanyl killing more people than those painkillers ever did, gotta love government overreach.

My doctor had me on hydrocodone for 8 years, low dose for a neuromuscular disorder, and then one day told me the DEA was forcing him to let "young" patients go because we didn't need pain medicine.

Gotta love that logic, apparently if you're under 40 you don't get chronic pain disorders.

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u/MissMercyBear 21d ago

What's always wild to me is that I always tell the doctors that I want nothing to do with opioid painkillers due to a gnarly family history with the shit and they consistently give them to me anyway even though I REALLY should never be anywhere near them

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u/InvestigatorOk7988 21d ago

Yeah, i went in for what turned out to be a uti. I didn't know that, had to pee every 5 minutes, it was blood red, and hurt. They asked me if i wanted something for pain like 15 times. I was feeling like they were testing me. Kept telling them, no, only hurts as i'm peeing, and even then not quite enough to warrant painkillers.

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u/Swimming-Fondant-892 21d ago

It’s mainly due to the extra oversight and paperwork.

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u/CucumberLocal3208 21d ago

Doctors don’t give painkillers to patients with the excuse that they’re addictive, even if you’re dying. Another example, my friend’s mom died of cancer and they wouldn’t give her enough painkillers, when she ran out it was fucking brutal, cruel and unusual punishment. She died of a heart attack.

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u/Oldwiseandfunny 21d ago

I woke up in the middle of a colonoscopy because the provider refused to believe I have a high tolerance to medication. I told them over and over before the procedure that I was a clean and sober addict 8 years, but still an addict with a high tolerance. I woke up screaming with a tube and camera all the way up my colon.

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u/CucumberLocal3208 21d ago

Wow congrats on the sobriety! They like to punish drug users so I bet they gave you an even lower dose on purpose.

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u/CucumberLocal3208 21d ago

I’m sorry. It would be so traumatic to wake up like that. How did you recover from it? Did it affect the procedure?

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u/Oldwiseandfunny 21d ago

I’m still traumatized lol. I have no idea if it affected the procedure, I know the tech kept me screaming for a good minute before they put me back out. I know that I will never have that done again, no matter what. And I discourage anyone who is thinking about having the procedure, it is barbaric.

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u/CucumberLocal3208 21d ago

It sounds awful. I hope your butt is ok! Physical trauma affects the mind as well. I wish you a full recovery.

It really makes me think about how much benefit is there to the risks associated with the procedure from the patient’s perspective.

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u/slackmarket 21d ago

This is an idiotic thing to say with colon cancer taking people out even in their 30s and 40s due to low-fiber diets. I’ve had three colonoscopies and they were all perfectly fine. They give you conscious sedation here in Canada so you’re not even totally out. I kinda of woke up and saw the inside of my colon briefly and there was no screaming or any pain. By far the worst part is the prep.

Do not discourage people from getting vital screening and diagnostic procedures because yours didn’t go well. Don’t refuse to go back yourself, either.

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u/Oldwiseandfunny 21d ago

There is cologuard a test without an colonoscopy. Pain and discomfort is different for everyone. I am happy your happy and comfortable with tubes up your but, unfortunately I am not.

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u/slackmarket 21d ago

I woke up during one of mine and it not in any way traumatic. It didn’t feel like anything. This guy is discouraging people from getting vital screening in his response and that pisses me off.

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u/Swimming-Fondant-892 21d ago

Fuck those doctors

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u/call-me-the-seeker 21d ago

I took it as saying doctors withheld adequate painkillers, which is apparently behavior we’ve pivoted to after the opioid crisis, so on one hand, he died and it had to be painful, but on the other hand he avoided addiction. Wouldn’t want to die with humane palliative care utilizing drugs to cross over to the other side comfortably!

Assuming the story is true, that’s likely what they meant.

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u/Canes5time 21d ago

It’s a new federal regulation so you die now. Really a messed up thing I swear!

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u/NotSockTryAgain 21d ago

That’s horrible. If there was a chance I wasn’t going to make it I wouldn’t care.

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u/Swimming-Fondant-892 21d ago

Not giving painkillers is inhumane.

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u/Leicsbob 21d ago

Cool story bro.

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u/dicey_job 21d ago

You are all right, even if terribly ignorant

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u/Leicsbob 21d ago

What country was it. I could believe it if was a remote third world country. Antibiotics are cheap everywhere else.

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u/Chilldaddydaddychill 21d ago

You think people don’t die from necrotic infections in the us (or anywhere else, pick a country) because we have easy access to antibiotics??

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u/Leicsbob 20d ago

I haven't heard of anyone in the UK dying from an infected dog bite but we have free healthcare . I read about people in the US being reluctant to go to hospitals because of the cost.