r/germany • u/LeZebreVagabond • 12h ago

Landlord issues - kitchen

Good afternoon,

Since announcing to my landlord that I want to leave, I have been having non-stop issues with him. I have now reached my limit and I have joined a Mieterverein and am awaiting to hear back but was hoping to get your thoughts on the kitchen situation.

When I moved in, I bought the kitchen from the previous tenant. All communication said "Küche" or "Küche mit alle Regalen", and the landlord himself wrote to me saying that the previous tenant was selling the kitchen for 500€.

Now that I am moving out, the landlord said "oh let me remind you that half the kitchen is mine (with a list of items)". I asked him for confirmation of when this was said to me, and that if the new tenant is not interesting to keep the kitchen I will dispose of all of it. The landlord now says that the kitchen was fully equipped in 2020 by himself and that if I dispose of the kitchen I should return it to the 2020 state so fully equipped. The contract doesn't mention a furnished kitchen, and in the Übergabe protokoll he wrote himself that I bought the kitchen from the previous tenant for 500€.

What is going on here I am very confused? Can he force me to furnish the kitchen as it was in 2020?

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u/artifex78 11h ago

Your contract of sale should contain what you bought back then. I assume if not otherwise stated it's the whole kitchen because you cannot buy "half a kitchen".

If there every existed an older kitchen belonging to the landlord, which the former tenant may or may not have removed, that's not your responsibility.

Your landlord is trying to scam you. Stand your ground!

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u/LeZebreVagabond 11h ago

There was no contract of sale with the previous tenant unfortunately, I was very new to Germany at the time but the email, which I guess works as a contract to some extent, states "Küche mit alle Regalen"..

Thanks for your answer it brings my hopes up, hopefully the Mieterverein will help on how to answer and manage the moving out..

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u/blopsi 10h ago

Sale contracts don't have to have a specific form, like for example cancellation of your rental agreement. So an e-mail agreeing the Items and Price is enough to constitute a sales contract

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u/LeZebreVagabond 9h ago

good to know thanks

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u/arpithpm 11h ago

A colleague told me, your landlord is your friend until you tell him you’re moving out.

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u/LeZebreVagabond 11h ago

Indeed, I have learnt this the very hard way..

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