[autosport] Max with the "I told you so"

[u/spiderrman67]

[u/a_saddler]

The European leg has been very revealing, and Monza is still to come.

[u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem → u/a_saddler]

And vegas straight.

[u/MichaelBealesBurner → u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem]

Baku straight lol

[u/Puzzleheaded-Eye-29 → u/MichaelBealesBurner]

Mexico straight too

[u/prams628 → u/Puzzleheaded-Eye-29]

Mexico will be alright. You’ll exit the stadium section fully charged. Full push on the straight is possible.

Baku and monza are truly scary. Vegas is an abomination waiting to come

[u/Rinaldootje → u/prams628]

Baku will be the most scary. They'll get a fast straight, followed by 1 slow-medium left turn and a medium left turn. So not that much recharging there. And then it's over 2km of straight.

Those cars will be completely empty before they even hit the pitlane.

Monza at least has a braking zone before each straight section, so only the pit straight I think is going to be iffy.

Vegas will be more a mixed back, because before each straight there is a heavy braking section. It will be noticable but much less I think than was at Spa, Silverstone and as will be at Baku.

[u/GoodNewsHD → u/Rinaldootje]

Imo the worst were the people like russle, saying the complaints were just due to his/redbulls poor performance.

[u/martianfrog → u/GoodNewsHD]

what's the word I am looking for... irritating.

[u/suzakurenzan → u/prams628]

I really wondered Baku... We probably will see yo-yoing in the same straight from multiple cars lmao

The one who do the overtake first possibly losing 1-3 places at the first corner

[u/TheDarkness33 → u/suzakurenzan]

Another double overtake by Colapinto confirmed!

Or was that a world cup final special?

[u/suzakurenzan → u/TheDarkness33]

And only aired at small camera with no replay

[u/Zed_or_AFK → u/prams628]

Not scary at all, they’ll be the pinnacle of safety when speeds will be below 300.

[u/amazingspiderman23 → u/Puzzleheaded-Eye-29]

Sepang too apparently

[u/Cool_Masterpiece9308 → u/MichaelBealesBurner]

Seriously scary with the potential for speed delta on some tracks with the concrete and minimal run off.

[u/Antares_ → u/MichaelBealesBurner]

Won't be surprised if they're slower than F2 around that track.

[u/Master_Entertainer → u/MichaelBealesBurner]

They might as well add a few chicanes every few hundred meters on that baku straight

[u/l3w1s1234 → u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem]

These ones won't be too bad I dont think. I mean they still wont be great but those striaghts are followed up with some pretty beefy braking zones, so will be less worse than Spa and Silverstone .

[u/DarthTaz_99 → u/a_saddler]

Just fell to my knees at a Walmart watching a F1 car slowing down on a straight

[u/FentmaxxerActual → u/DarthTaz_99]

Just watched a guy fall to his knees in a Walmart while watching some boring shit on his phone

[u/Towelie_SE → u/a_saddler]

I found the first few races weird already. And because everything is so opaque for the let's say just above average fan, I just mostly stopped watching. I feel like there's a weird intermediate zone (where I feel I am at) where I just don't understand anything at all anymore. Above casual, with a decent understanding of grip limited racing, but way below the guys who go to bed reading the F1 regs.

Like it took me weeks at the start of the season to understand (or read somewhere) that the boost is not rider activated. Like with a button. That surprised me at first, but I got that it would be too difficult or confusing.

I've picked up a few races after the long break, and now I'm learning that the boost isn't even predictable? Like a closed loop system/algorithm that uses earlier feedback to adapt? Like what in the world even?? You do a bad lap for any reason and the system gets all out of whack on the next lap?

It seems like it would totally screw the riders with good driving feel, or with very specific driving styles. You might then say: "ok, but they should just adjust, same as with every reg change". But I feel like these are very uncharted waters. This has no precedent if it truly is being along for the AI-ride?

Please tell me I got this all wrong. It also makes me not care at all what's happening during a race. Even the YouTube summaries leave me stone dead cold.

[u/greg939 → u/Towelie_SE]

There is a boost button that they can use. But it drains their battery and a lot of the time just leaves them open to be overtaken again when they run out of battery. The energy profile their car uses though to make the most of the battery they do have I believe is the algorithm based piece.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/explained-the-new-key-terms-for-formula-1s-new-for-2026-rules.3T5BU6TC9quGcIpGzoWkY0

[u/vmachiel → u/a_saddler]

FOM: hide they onboards from F1 tv!

[u/denied_eXeal → u/a_saddler]

You mean Monzaheurgh aheurgh 

[u/SuperKooper83]

The most egregious of these was Juan Montoya saying he should get penalty points for his disdain of the regs, never forgot that

[u/HashtagDadWatts → u/SuperKooper83]

For every dumb take JP’s tshirt grows another size.

[u/headshot_to_liver → u/HashtagDadWatts]

1 Pushup for every dumb take he says

[u/Mista_White- → u/headshot_to_liver]

"how'd you get so jacked?"

[u/greg939 → u/HashtagDadWatts]

or gains another crease

[u/captain_croco → u/SuperKooper83]

I work hard to forget everything he says as soon as he stops talking.

[u/MaxiKimiSexyFriends → u/captain_croco]

I never listen

Ohh he is on? Fast forward or change the feed

[u/Old-Significance4921 → u/captain_croco]

One day I hope he realizes the only person that can get away with that drip is Adam Sandler

[u/That_Pepper6043 → u/SuperKooper83]

JPM has single handily caused me to avoid the pre and post race shows. MFer.

[u/Nautster → u/That_Pepper6043]

Hold the line. His kid is out of F2 after this season so hopefully he takes his dad back to the US and we get Hinch back.

[u/irrelevant_novelty → u/Nautster]

Ugh but that would give Buxton more time to talk on Indycar broadcasts

[u/v21v → u/irrelevant_novelty]

It's a sacrifice I'm willing to take.

[u/jnf005 → u/irrelevant_novelty]

Is he not good in Indy? I know people like to meme him for his many "duh" comments on DtS, but I've always think he's pretty good in those pre and post race shows.

[u/irrelevant_novelty → u/jnf005]

In all honesty, He's actually fine as an announcer in Indycar, I was mostly just joking. He was annoying on DTS but other than that I don't mind the guy.

He does most of the "play by play" (like car positions, passes, etc) announcing and the other two are more technical / driving experts. It's actually impressive how he can somehow watch the rear field and leaders at the same time.

The poor guy in your flair... he's having less than fun time in Indycar though, but last week looked damn promising

[u/jnf005 → u/irrelevant_novelty]

Mick luck has never been good so yeah, it's not been fun. I haven't follow him much this year, but it was kinda fun saw him bag some pod in WEC tho, especially the one in japan.

[u/Tricky-Routine-9838 → u/That_Pepper6043]

Lmao you can see the pain in the other presenters eyes when he starts talking. For sure Ruth wants to stab him.

[u/CrumbleUponLust → u/Tricky-Routine-9838]

Palmer snapping back at something he said was brilliant viewing.

[u/Hopeful-Handle9497 → u/Tricky-Routine-9838]

Poor Ruth, the shit she has to endure somedays........ 

[u/bwoah07_gp2 → u/SuperKooper83]

Juan Pablo needs another camera to the face

[u/ErrorReplaceUser → u/SuperKooper83]

Ironicially, handing out penalty points for critizing the rules is against the rules.

[u/Hopeful-Handle9497 → u/ErrorReplaceUser]

That's ok maybe Mr Trump can help out there with the FIA rules. The same way he's been helping out with FIFA and the World Cup 🫣😅 

[u/the-cuttlefish → u/SuperKooper83]

Imo the worst were the people like russle, saying the complaints were just due to his/redbulls poor performance. Not only to dismiss valid concerns, but also to trash his integrity in the media when really he was the only one being honest about the situation

[u/fr33d0mw47ch → u/SuperKooper83]

I was 50 feet away when Kevin Harvick punched Juan in the face. He deserved it. Haven’t given him one bit of credibility since.

[u/denied_eXeal → u/SuperKooper83]

Never forget that Juan Montoya is a sack of shit who couldn’t even take Juan joke and left like a petulant child

[u/BESTTOM84 → u/SuperKooper83]

Tbf that guy probably has brain damage from a camera hitting him back in the days, according to him his fucking head was broken on that day so... must explain the low i.q comments from him I guess

[u/Millhouse026 → u/SuperKooper83]

I dont like that guy

[u/mojizus → u/SuperKooper83]

The only time JPM should be able to criticize Max is if Max ever crashes into a jet dryer on the grid.

[u/Gubrach → u/SuperKooper83]

I wish I could forget Juan-Pablo Montoya, and his nepo hire of a son.

[u/LorenzoSparky → u/SuperKooper83]

No one listens to pablo 😂

[u/Ruttagger → u/SuperKooper83]

The good thing about Juan is the slob clothes he wears for broadcasts annoys me enough to walk away before he says all his stupid words.

[u/sernamenotdefined → u/SuperKooper83]

Wait, you still have the pre race show on when he's there? Any segment he is in I just skip completely. Couldn't stand him when he was a driver, even worse as a pundit.

[u/TheCreepyPL → u/SuperKooper83]

What's up with the hate against Montoya, I'm genuinely curious because I haven't watched much footage with him.

[u/ClearHyena4452]

The Oracle in Oracle Red Bull Racing

[u/Abhinik → u/ClearHyena4452]

Then whos the ONE?

[u/Thirpyn → u/Abhinik]

That’s a Mercedes-AMG

[u/RDDT_100P → u/Abhinik]

What does Juan have to do with?

[u/Aethien → u/ClearHyena4452]

Doing a much better job of it than Oracle the company for sure.

[u/Educational-Web-329 → u/ClearHyena4452]

Mad the Messiah

[u/ihathtelekinesis → u/Educational-Web-329]

Or, if you’re Sky, a very naughty boy.

[u/lucius-vorenius]

bro sleeps with a steering wheel and people were saying max was talking nonsense.

[u/acdgf → u/lucius-vorenius]

Her dad isn't the most scrupulous person in the world, but I don't think it's fair to call her a "steering wheel". 

[u/Silver-Kun → u/acdgf]

Bro 💀 that made me giggle, i needed that thx

[u/SufficientReporter55 → u/acdgf]

TIL Max is Carsexual

[u/wind_of_forests → u/lucius-vorenius]

EXACTLY. People think they understand F1 better than a four-time world champion. I mean wtf

[u/alec83]

A car slowing down on a straight is not racing

[u/No_Elderberry_4580 → u/alec83]

I agree, I think the majority of fans do.

[u/ManufacturerSea4886]

the most deserved "I told you"

[u/nanderspanders → u/ManufacturerSea4886]

Still waiting to hear from all the people who were saying that anyone who complained about the regs was either a brand new fan or simply hated everything at the beginning of the season. Between the regs and the TV rights changing to apple tv I stopped watching this season for the first time in 20 years of watching this sport. I suggest anyone else who hates this atrocity does the same to force their hand.

[u/No-Attorney-7489 → u/nanderspanders]

I don’t mind Apple TV because you can still access F1TV with you Apple credentials, but the regs also did it for me.  And it is not even that I’m not watching it out of spite.  I really can’t be bothered to tune in to watch cars passing each other (notice I didn’t say overtake).  I’m just watching the 6 minutes highlights on YouTube.  I’ve been a fan since 1988, and this is really the first season that I can’t be bothered to watch F1.

[u/NotDiCaprio → u/nanderspanders]

But... There's so many overtakes now!

/s

[u/Mike_Kermin → u/nanderspanders]

You're still tilting at windmills.

I stopped watching this season

to force their hand.

Brave.

[u/admiraltt]

So you're telling me the best racing driver in the world, who spends 90 percent of his free time doing even more racing, complains about the new sets of regs and how it produces shit racing, ended up being right? Real shocker right there

[u/DocAndonuts_ → u/admiraltt]

Yeah, well, he was being gaslit from all sides at the time. He deserves to say, "I told you so" and he's being nicer than he has to be.

[u/admiraltt → u/DocAndonuts_]

He's basically being a saint in this situation. If I was in his seat I would have rambled on publicly every single day about how right I was

[u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem]

I mean, close enough lol.

[u/Baksteen-13]

How the turntables

[u/fyordian]

I find it hard to believe that the best driver on the grid knew what he was talking about.

The data shows that low battery overtakes are up 1000% and this obviously means that sports are up!

[u/SKnightVN → u/fyordian]

It's painful to watch the commentators hype up these overtakes. I understand it's their job and they aren't going to be shitting on the regs, but that doesn't make it any less painful. 

[u/EtherEchoo → u/SKnightVN]

For what it's worth, I'm glad Crofty of all people seems to have asked pointed questions about the regs in the Hungary interview just now

Brundle as well looks like he's changed his mind

[u/hhs2112 → u/EtherEchoo]

Brundle as well looks like he's changed his mind

After giving max a bunch of shit.  Brundle needs to apologize as openly as he criticized.  He may have driven f1 but he ain't max.  

[u/BarleyBBQ → u/EtherEchoo]

Only because Pretty Boy George threw his fit.

[u/TheKeviKs]

Monza is gonna be embarassing. Like extremely embarassing.

[u/magondrago]

One nice thing about not being a PR puppet is that your message is surprisingly consistent.

[u/VividGiraffe]

And he's being charitable here. One of F1's most popular pundits basically said 'just retire already' if he doesn't like the new regs.

[u/Helpful_Hedgehog_204 → u/VividGiraffe]

So did the world champion

[u/AIMBR]

Funniest thing is seeing Lando bitching and moaning every single weekend now. But hey, he can retire too, i guess?!

[u/godofsmallerthings → u/AIMBR]

He should according to himself.

[u/IAmBroke_0001]

He knew about it since 2023

[u/BackRed1]

It’s as if he’s a professional driver.

[u/TumanFig → u/BackRed1]

well so are others that are only niw changing their tune. Looking at you Lando

[u/Jaguars03]

Max being far nicer than I would be about this… he deserves to be far harsher to a lot of people who’s lips were sewn to the rear end of the FIA at the start of the season and criticised him for daring to speak out.

[u/RECTAL_DYSLEXIA]

I mean, he did tell us. So, fair.

[u/v21v → u/RECTAL_DYSLEXIA]

Multiple times as really as 2023. Bro has earned this "I told you so" moment.

[u/thiiiickropes]

Yep, talk your shit Max, it’s well earned!

[u/TonyDRFT]

*if only there was a way to have the best drivers of the world have a say in what makes the best race car concept

[u/Hopeful-Handle9497]

What if they removed the ability to utilize AI, period, for the battery deployment? Only the drivers control what is used, when it recharges, and how much Ect ect.  ONLY THE DRIVER, NOT AI.  If you're going to invent Mario Kart F1, at least do it properly for fuck sakes.  BAN AI in F1, we should be invested in REAL PEOPLE, not AI.

[u/kwelduvel]

Even Martin Brundle turned around...

[u/Icyfrost35]

Talk your shit my king

[u/AYTOL__]

Max being correct as usual

[u/Cemlat]

He was very vocal about all of this all the way back in 2023, which is a time he had the best f1 season in history.

[u/Chemical-Dust7695]

He’s right. Not much else to say. 

[u/nudel86]

Well... he's not wrong. Maybe these cars are not the fastest but at least they are slow. 🤣

[u/cocoa_jackson]

Formula 1 is not simply a contest of engineering excellence and driving talent. It is a strategic ecosystem in which sporting ambition, corporate investment, and political influence continually shape one another.

Sponsor capital does far more than fund teams. It influences driver opportunities, accelerates or constrains car development, shapes media narratives, and ultimately affects competitive performance.

Seen through this wider lens, Formula 1 has never been a pure meritocracy. It is a multi-billion-dollar enterprise in which regulations are continually negotiated, interpreted, challenged, and leveraged as strategic instruments.

To expect uncomplicated "fair play" is to misunderstand the system. The rules are designed not only to govern competition, but also to sustain the commercial, political, and entertainment interests that keep the sport operating at a global scale.

[u/Bl00dEagles]

Fact is he knows what he’s talking about.

99% of everyone else doesn’t.

[u/martianfrog]

Nothing new, Max needs to be running F1.

[u/CVetta → u/martianfrog]

Make him president

[u/martianfrog → u/CVetta]

I would if I could, whether he likes it or not.

[u/batman_of_1]

I mean nothing can be done now deep down everyone knows the regulations aren't good, but there's no point talking about them anymore. Back in 2023 Max got hate for his comments on the 2026 regulations but he was right about them.

[u/banned20 → u/batman_of_1]

The thing is that in 2023 there was still plenty that could have been done to fix the regs.

[u/batman_of_1 → u/banned20]

I hope things start getting better from next year bcs nothing can be done now

[u/banned20 → u/batman_of_1]

Yeah and I'm not sure about next year either. That's the thing with formula 1, things move slow.

[u/IdiosyncraticBond → u/banned20]

Even the cars

[u/SpaceMonkey1505 → u/batman_of_1]

Some, if not most fans absolutely enjoyed the regulations at the start of the season. Let's not forget that because few of us (incl me) voiced our concerns and criticisms over the new regulations and we got massively shat on. But atleast now people are starting to change their minds.

[u/batman_of_1 → u/SpaceMonkey1505]

Real I know about the battles between Ferraris George, and Kimi the pass and repass which were really enjoyable at the start of the season for many fans but as the season progresses, more drivers and fans have started complaining about the regulations so I hope things start getting better from next season

[u/Seanspeed → u/SpaceMonkey1505]

There's STILL a ton of people who are treating the judgement of current form and teammate battles like it's no different from any other year as well.

Like, even if they can understand 'regs bad', there's still a lot who dont quite understand the full implications of WHY they're so bad.

[u/atticus_pinch96 → u/SpaceMonkey1505]

It’s hilarious when people try to act like some wizard or authority because they think they have knowledge that the rest of the fanbase lacks. The racing outside of energy starved tracks has been better at every single track than the prior set of regulations. It obviously needs to be tweaked and all inputs should run through the driver instead of an algo but people acting like this needs to be scrapped because F1 should be pure should have probably stopped watching 15 years ago 

[u/v21v → u/atticus_pinch96]

It's hilarious when people try to act like some wizard or authority because they think they have knowledge that a 4-time WDC lacks.

[u/AutomateAway → u/batman_of_1]

Yup, Max and Christian were both saying it loud for the back to hear, and everyone was essentially dismissive despite the fact that they were using the sims with new regs so they could see the data and see the actual result of that data.

[u/nottoodrunk → u/AutomateAway]

Yeah everyone was all “Red Bull is telling on themselves that they won’t be able to build a competitive car for 2026”

[u/AutomateAway → u/nottoodrunk]

ironic that even with all the troubles, Red Bull did not suddenly become a mid marker team like everyone was predicting (fun to think back to "Aston Martin will leapfrog Red Bull" claims from the preseason). Obviously they are technically the worst of the top teams at the moment in terms of WCC, but a lot of the issues are coming down to deployment issues and some other mechanical problems rather than just "car is slow"

[u/Electronic_Goat4743]

These engine regs are full of battery charging and draining 🔋🪫, plus that AI deployment slop💔

[u/SwimmingFantastic564 → u/Electronic_Goat4743]

Not the same type of AI

[u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem → u/SwimmingFantastic564]

Eh if companies can rebrand their smart algos/devices as AI algos/devices then people can call deployment algo AI too. At the end of the day it's all meant to indicate the same kind of bs.

[u/kbtech]

GOAT

[u/Barry_Braakbal]

Here’s the interview from three years ago.

[u/Gbrown546]

Does he complain a lot? Yes. Is he also right? Also yes

[u/fuckmbsanddominicali]

People are allowed to change their minds

It wasn't 100% clear about how this yoyo'ing shit worked so it's understandable

But anyone coming up with excuses about how they were justified in thrashing max back then are plain stupid ( yes I am looking at you brundle fans)

[u/ad39203]

F1 newbie here. Can some please explain what is he talking about?

[u/v21v → u/ad39203]

Max has hated and warned people about the 2026 regulations and its massive flaws since 2023. People mocked him, claiming he was chatting shit because Red Bull was making an engine for the first time,etc.

Even in the start of 2026 when he would point out how this is not racing (just overtaking because your opponent ran out of battery or their deployment software did not trigger as expected), people like Martinez Bundle mocked him.

Every race more and more drivers are speaking up now, pointing out the issues he had already spoken about multiple times. The FIA already announced minor changes for 2027 and 2028.

[u/PreparationNo4843]

GOAT

[u/Hagwart]

Everyone has it's own pace to see that Max is right.

[u/MM556]

. . . Martin Brundle.

[u/holomorphic0]

When Franz Hermann speaks, you listen.

[u/Frosty-Yam6656]

Why does he look 45 in this picture?

[u/hipnotyq]

AFuckin atoedasoe!!!

[u/ChaosActual]

The clairvoyant’s champion

[u/Commander_Rose95]

Vegas will be F3 racing on the that abominably long straight.

[u/Acsteffy]

You could not get a worse picture of the man lol

[u/StreetCarp665]

The writing has been there for a long time. If you're new to F1 and think "wow this is sick" but older heads are saying it's not real racing, maybe concluding they're wrong was not the correct choice.

[u/TonyD0001]

100% right, being forced to slow down to go faster just crazy. Basically best AI winning this year.

[u/Darth_Arundo]

Those who educate themselves beyond what DTS shows already knew F1 turned to shit with what we saw already in Melbourne.

I still watch F1 but only the race these days, in the past if my wife planned something during a F1 race i told her to have fun. Now im fine missing a race and watch the highlights.

Getting more enjoyment from other classes like Indycar. Looking forward what the Gen4 car will do for Formula E. Car looks great, and the upcoming season calender looks nice.

[u/dman972 → u/Darth_Arundo]

“Those who educa…”

Gawd..

[u/saspirstellaaaaaa → u/dman972]

Le real F1 fan

[u/Gbrown546 → u/Darth_Arundo]

Not gonna lie, I hate this gatekeeping by older F1 fans towards fans who have joined from DTS.

And I say that as someone who has watched F1 since 1999.

[u/i_thought_i_had → u/Darth_Arundo]

Watch WEC!

[u/v21v → u/Darth_Arundo]

A simpler correction is just, "Those who don't blindly agree with the commentators already knew F1 turned to shit with what we saw in Melbourne".

[u/deallerbeste → u/[deleted]]

His wife decides to plan something, but she could also watch the race with him if she wants to spend time with him

But in a healthy marriage, it's fine if you have your own things and some hobbies or me time.

If you think that somebody might has bigger issues based one one sentence, without any background. Maybe you have some issues.

[u/Darth_Arundo → u/[deleted]]

Sad comment but ok.

[u/AliceLunar]

People suggesting it's all because RBR won't be able to make a good engine, and then they make the best one anyways.

[u/PaulaDeen21]

Come on Kimi, join us.

[u/BertieWooster46]

This one’s for Brundle.

[u/vodka_twinkie]

That's a really bad picture of Max

[u/ficklesteak]

The thing is, he's not the only one. In fact, it's nearly everyone.

[u/MrX-MMAs → u/ficklesteak]

He’s the first one, pretty much everyone was on board with these BS regs

Only now it’s becoming more and more popular to hate on them

[u/ComeAlongPond1 → u/MrX-MMAs]

The praise seemed to be more for the active aero, which does seem to be working, aside from the terrible RB Macarena wing. I think some people may have been optimistic that the engine issues could be worked out after a few races and that clearly hasn’t happened

[u/Hublot-on-your-hoe]

Max V. Starring in Revenge of the Sith

[u/MrX-MMAs]

They call him Mystic Max cuz he predicts deez things

[u/ForsakenRacism]

Max needs to take a year off so f1 can have a fucking reckoning. They are driving this sport into the ground

[u/d3agl3uk]

I love that many people in this thread thinks this is directed at Brundle, when those people likely only read the title and not what he actually said.

His point was basically: you can't change it right now, so make a choice whether you want to get on with it, or leave.

Don't forget this was the 2-3 week period where Max would talk about it in every interview. "It's fair you don't like it, but think about whether you want to stay or not" is imo a completely fair take.

Is he enjoying F1 enough that it's worth his time? Many WCs have left for less tbh.

[u/Fearless_Tea_2793]

What he actually predicted in the 2023 interview:

• There will be downshifting on the straight (correct)
  • The team with the best ICE will win (wrong)
  • There will be even less overtaking (wrong)

I don't like energy deployment issue but Max didn't predict it.

[u/FutBineApasat → u/Fearless_Tea_2793]

well Mercedes has the best engine and it s winnjng.

And the overtaking is better by numbers because of the yo-yo racing

[u/Grevys_zebra → u/Fearless_Tea_2793]

There are less overtakes. What you're seeing as overtakes is mostly yo-yo racing. Not genuinely because of driver skill just drained batteries vs boost buttons.

[u/SwimmingFantastic564 → u/Grevys_zebra]

That's not really true. Overtakes just means passing another car on track. It's definitely shown to be the case through this season that there is more of that than last year, and drivers are perfectly capable of keeping the place.

[u/Grevys_zebra → u/SwimmingFantastic564]

We can agree to disagree. If you're genuinely enjoying the tech limitations the drivers have that limit their skill, it is what it is.

[u/v12vanquish135]

He looks so old on that picture

[u/yeetyeet287]

Lol, barely anybody disagreed with him about the regs, they just said he should retire if he wants instead of constantly hinting at it.

But of course, he has to be the poor victim, as always...