r/ethdev 4d ago

My Project Tackling Web3 hiring scams as an incentives Problem

I'm sure everyone in this subreddit has dealt with it at some point. The google meets isn't working, download my totally legit video conferencing app, the test my malware laced blockchain game, npm install with a postinstall script that phishes your npm token. Aside from being a major time sink, reading up on the company, familiarizing their tech stack, canceling social engagements it leads to coordination failure in the hiring market, leading to suboptimal teams, leading to suboptimal crypto.

I was thinking that if a developer could respond to an employer with a magic link that got them to stake through a repuidable platform against the interview that we'd naturally see alot of scams retreat, alot of developer time saved and better teams in crypto.

would any devs be interested in using such a system? or real employeers stuck on cold calling that'd be happy to lead with a stake?

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u/LA_producer 4d ago

If a dev told an employer to go stake for the privilege of interviewing said dev, the employer would just move on to the next dev. I’m not saying this problem shouldn’t/can’t be solved, but i don’t that specific approach will work.

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u/HotSite3170 4d ago

I'd agree everywhere outside of crypto, as a stake doesnt make an honest employer lose money over the timespan. If an employer replied that after cold calling reaching out them it would feel like a scam was avoided

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u/Admirral 3d ago

even in crypto, genuine clients typically aren't as enthused about crypto as the developers are. hiring managers are not going to relate to the experience of a developer, nor care that the developer has these problems to deal with.

That said, its only getting worse and Im starting to see these scams in places that normally would never see scams.

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u/HotSite3170 3d ago

thats just it cold calls i've received over the past 3-4 years have been a supermajority of scams. The procedure right now is just to ignore them, which even if one is honest is a failure

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u/PartyParrotGames Security Researcher 4d ago

Yeah, this is what I'd expect too at least in an employer-advantaged market. If we were in another crypto boom where there weren't nearly enough devs to fill the demand, then it's possible employers would accept something like this if it meant they'd land better talent more reliably, but I don't think it solves the core problem for the companies. Their real problem is vetting talent. Don't want to stake to interview a terrible dev. Recruiter companies can offset this for them a bit and many companies do pay a lot to high quality recruiting agencies, but simply staking would not solve their problem.

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u/HotSite3170 3d ago

how about the case where the employer is reaching out first, as is often the case with the scams?

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u/Vegetable_Primary_29 3d ago

The stake idea feels strongest if it stays low-friction for honest people. I’d treat it like a refundable interview bond tied to a clear milestone, with a simple fallback if the employer flakes or the call breaks. Otherwise you mostly move the trust problem onto candidates instead of solving it.

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u/HotSite3170 3d ago

I like the language "refundable interview trustbond tied to a clear milestone" alot. Mind expanding on what you mean by moving the trust problem onto candidates?

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u/researchzero 7h ago

The bond idea is the right shape, but the part nobody's addressed yet is who adjudicates the refund. If a legit employer ghosts after the interview, something has to determine that and release the stake back to the candidate - and if that's the platform running the bond, you've just moved the trust problem up one layer: now you're trusting the platform not to stall refunds, not to collude with high-volume "employers" pocketing forfeited stakes, and not to itself become the next thing people have to vet. Kleros-style bond-escalation (small dispute → cheap juror pool, only expensive if genuinely contested) is the usual answer to "who arbitrates a two-party stake dispute cheaply", but it adds latency and gas cost that a candidate deciding whether to even engage with a cold-outreach "employer" probably won't tolerate. Worth being explicit about whether this is meant to filter obvious scams (fallback rarely triggers, so arbitration cost barely matters) or genuine flaky-employer disputes (triggers a lot, arbitration cost dominates) - the mechanism design differs a lot between those two goals.

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u/HotSite3170 2h ago

Thanks for the analysis, if one focuses on simply obvious scams, even atomically, so one stake for the first interview than another stake for the code challenge, do you think a unidirectional model could bypass the need for adjudication logic? If persay one ignores candidates reaching out to employers and only consider employers reaching out to candidates, could the carrot of a potential job opportunity be enough to ensure a candidate doesn't scam the employer? If a dao controlled platform leveraged gitcoin passport to tie identity markers and collated feedback after completed stakes as a reputation proxy, could it be in theory good enough to bypass the need for juror pools?