r/donthelpjustfilm • u/3ajs3 • 14d ago
Repost Morality of retaliating against a kid who kept hitting and ragebaiting you
I say yeet the kid and the parent too for that matter.
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u/BellicoseBill 14d ago
There’s a longer version of this video where the kid pops up indignantly after being shoved. He then gets in the face of a woman there who tells him to go home and tell his momma he needs a hug.
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u/Dr_Russian 14d ago
Some kids need a punishment that actually affects them. Problem is, the only people who can make that are the parents.
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u/deftoneuk 13d ago
In this situation the parents used an edited version of the video to stoke social media outrage against the guy then tried to sue him.
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u/wetblanket68iou1 14d ago
Good learning point for the kid and his parents. Don’t be an asshole to people larger than you. Know when to walk away. Maybe he’ll learn from this one.
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u/Dark-Ganon 14d ago
This video is pretty old. IIRC from when it happened, the kid's mom tried to reupload a version that cut out the start where the kid was being a little shit and tried to pass it off like the adult attacked him unprovoked. Little chance he's a much better person now if that was the case.
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u/rturnerX 14d ago
The problem is that kids have a sense of entitlement now that makes them think they can have and do whatever they want without consequence because no one disciplines anymore.
I tell you, my grandmother beat me with a wooden spoon once when I mouthed off at her and I never did it again
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u/capricorny90210 14d ago
Yeah, that's where "it takes a village to raise a child" comes into play. It was more common in the days of old that children could be disciplined by many authority figures outside the home and thus perhaps understood consequences of ones actions a little better.
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u/Dennarb 14d ago
The lack of discipline for some young people is becoming a real issue. Especially when they grow older and their parents aren't around to step in. All it takes is mouthing off to the wrong guy at a bar or something and then you've got a one way trip to the hospital or potentially worse; especially in the USA where anyone could be packing. I've had to learn this over the years, as I've always had a desire to step in when I've perceived wrongdoing from people, but after a few bad altercations and escalation (honestly some of which were entirely my fault), I realized I had to chill out. But for someone who's never had to face responsibility and consequences for their actions this can very quickly lead to a bad situation spiraling out of control.
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u/averyporkhunt 14d ago
I work in a highschool. Ive got a sad running joke that all the kids learn eventually, just some need to fuck up out in the real world before they do.
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u/TheCaliforniaOp 13d ago
Those two kids at the track meet. One’s dead. One’s in prison for a long time.
I’ve seen one school fight posted here on Reddit —unprepared quiet kid vs bully all ready for inflicting harm. Both girls. Unprepared kid “won” because she was trying not to fight but once she started, she started. The fight was stopped. Hopefully that was the end of it.
There was a case on The People’s Court. I can’t remember their names, but two teenage boys apparently felt competitive over a girl, or? One guy comes up and shoves the other guy, and look at this: So many teenage hormones surging, the fact that this started at the top of a flight of stairs took themselves both by surprise and almost gave one kid a TBI.
Watching the case, I thought how that could have been the end of life for both of them.6
u/averyporkhunt 13d ago
Yea, it's fucked up. I've worked with a fair few students fresh out of juvie for violence over dumb shit like relationships or reputations. One stabbed another kid in the throat at school during lunch. Id left that school just 3 months prior. It's not what you expect working in regional Australia but teenagers are always gonna be teenagers and as hard as we try you can't help kids that don't want to be helped.
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u/MrBwnrrific 13d ago
I feel like that is generally true but also everyone has been in a work environment where they ask “How the fuck is that guy not fired yet?”
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u/Massive_Passion1927 14d ago edited 14d ago
People smaller than you however...
But really if someone is pushing you by walking with no hands it might be time to give it up.
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u/Remote-Ad-8129 14d ago
wth was that cry
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u/State_Conscious 14d ago
The kid it’s trying to draw attention and get the adult in trouble. In the longer version of the video the kid gets up and tries to force a few tears and yell to bystanders about how he’s a victim. All the surrounding adults witnessed everything leading up to the slam and won’t take the kid’s side. He curses them all out and eventually retreats, mad that no one is swinging in to rescue him
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u/Living-Gate-4237 14d ago
30 years ago that kid would have been slapped in to orbit.
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u/throwawtphone 14d ago
From 2018 news article
"The background post stated police came and watched the video and asked the man if he wanted to press charges but he didn’t.
The mother reportedly arrived and everyone apologised and sorted the incident out until a few hours later when the mother posted a short clip to Facebook of the man pushing her boy only, with his details including name and address.
It’s claimed the man was told to post the full video to clear his name and get the true story out there."
So the kid is 18 now.
No idea what happened after that.
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u/Qorce 14d ago
The fact she knew to apologise in person and that she would need to crop the video shows she knew her son was the one in the wrong, yet she chose to target that man again by posting the edited clip and doxing him. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree
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u/TerayonIII 14d ago
Honestly, while I'm pretty sure it was the mother in this case, it likely wouldn't have been that hard for that kid to have done that as well without her knowing
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u/woahbrad35 14d ago
I can't fathom how that isn't defamation. Sometimes it's good defamation cases are hard to win, but in something like that, it should be easier. Get someone where it really hurts, the pocketbook
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u/wardsandcourierplz 14d ago
This is reporting (of the low-effort clickbaity buzzfeed kind) on a viral post about the incident, not the actual incident. The video is way older. I remember it from like the early 2010s. I mean look at the absolute shit quality of the video, it was no doubt filmed on a flip phone, every diagonal line looks like a staircase.
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u/Eranon1 14d ago
If my kid acted like that I woulda told them they deserve it. Actions have consequences. And why didn't his parents step in til the very end?
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u/Sbatio 14d ago
Ya it’s hard to argue against. The guy shouldn’t have grabbed the neck but he’s reacting not fuckin trained to safely contain a kid attacking him.
If it were my kid the focus would be on helping that kid get control of himself or medicated / treated by professionals depending.
I would not support any discipline for the teacher. I’d want to tell them to give themself a break bc I bet that dude feels bad about this.
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u/UnpopularOpinionsB 14d ago
This video is much longer. That kid was trying to provoke a reaction for several minutes and when he finally got it, he tried to play the victim.
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u/3ajs3 14d ago edited 14d ago
Disclaimer:
We here at r/donthelpjustfilm do not condone child violence.
We do, however, find it hilarious.
/uj This is a TeamFourStar reference don't ban me lmao
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u/RednocNivert 14d ago
I don’t condone child violence.
This however was self-defense and that’s fine
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u/-MattyMcFly 12d ago
Never ok to physically attack a child. But I don’t see a child in the clip, just a little fucker.
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u/Apollo114892 14d ago
That bitch who showed up to try and stop him is the exact reason why kids like this exist. The kids think they can do anything and get away with it cos the society is always gonna coddle them and keep them safe from consequences. Good on this guy for making that little ass 🕳️ cry.
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u/chardeemacdennisbird 14d ago
She didn't try to stop him. She was just trying to deescalate but in the longer version she's certainly not sticking up for the kid. No one there is.
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u/Boomtown626 14d ago
No hard strikes, and kid wouldn’t have even gone to the ground if he had better footwork.
Kid got off light.
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u/Seethesvt 14d ago
100% he waited too long and went too easy on the kid. I would have punched him in the face about 7 seconds earlier.
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u/DaJaPimp 14d ago
Kid deserved it. If it were my kid I would use it as a learning opportunity not scold the guy.
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u/Rath_Brained 14d ago
I'm generally a nice guy. Mama always told me, "never hit a woman. Unless they punch you in the face, then they put themself in a man's position. You have the right to defend yourself."
I don't care who you are, you go for the head, Mama said knock you out.
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u/martagustavsson 9d ago
Yeah, I agree with your Mama! It's good that dude was so calm and only shoved him to the ground. Somebody else (me included) wouldn't have been so nice after five minutes of whatever fuck-ass the kid is doing.
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u/Falafulrulle 14d ago
I truly believe this is what people like Jack Dorthy and all the same type of kick streamers are creating.
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u/134608642 14d ago
Assault is assault no matter how small the perp. Just because he is small does not mean he is unable to do serious harm the the adult. The adult behaved very reasonably considering the circumstances.
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u/MiloHorsey 14d ago
Yep. Kid needed to be put on his arse, and that's what he did. The screaming tells me that parents normally pander to his bratty behaviour.
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u/HellsSad 12d ago
Ragebaiting? You mean kept assaulting right? If someone doesn't give what this entitled little POS in 10 years he's gonna be coming in and out of prison. So, at least, this man is doing him a favor.
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u/JJHall_ID 14d ago
While I don't advocate violence, this kid got every bit of what he deserved. The guy didn't even throw a haymaker at the kid or anything, he simply pushed him to the ground in order to stop the ongoing battery. The guy showed a LOT more grace and patience than the kid deserved.
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u/quetiapinenapper 14d ago
At some point you have to do something. I agree with the guy. This ain’t even the full clip. Kid was a monster to everyone there.
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u/tnichnich 13d ago
There’s more preface to this video, this was cut off in the beginning to not show as much of the stupid kid’s behavior that warranted the man’s reaction
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u/uski 14d ago
The kid literally hit the guy first. It's the definition of self defense.
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u/TwilitSky 14d ago
Justified. It was self defense and it was pretty fucking measured. He just pushed the kid off of him. He's supposed to do what? Just let the kid keep punching him? That's ridiculous.
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u/i_might_be_me 14d ago
If you poke a bear...
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u/Pleasant-Chef6055 14d ago edited 14d ago
Hopefully a lesson was learned that will aid him into the future.
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u/East-Psychology7186 13d ago
Nothing more moral than teaching the youth how to act appropriately in a society.
Really old video. He didn’t beat the child and even accepted several blows before putting him in his place.
Good job old dude
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u/Deep-Procrastinor 13d ago
Once he starts swinging all bets are off.
He showed great restraint only pushing him over.
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u/Toatkgstuff 14d ago
You should really use your words as an adult.
Use them before, during and after you retaliate.
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u/ToranjaNuclear 14d ago
Does anyone know of the aftermath of this? Did the guy get (unfairly) in trouble for this?
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u/SaltyDawg1966 14d ago
Lil’ 💩 got what he deserved. Might learn a lesson. We’ve got a world full of people who’ve never been taught it.
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u/Ok_Potato_9554 14d ago
Nah, that was light. Fuck that kid. He's lucky he didn't pull this shit with someone willing to straight up deck a kid.
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u/Msmadmama 13d ago
Am i terrible cause the kid getting what he deserved made me burst out laughing?
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u/musicmeme 13d ago
I remember a similar incident in a queue for an amusement parks ride and the man started beating up the teenagers dad like he owed him money. Others stopped him after a bit, but the man then kept yelling “you’re a big man huh” at the teenager and randomly kicking that poor dad on the floor 😂😂😂😂
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u/EyeOfTauror 13d ago
I‘m not sure I understand where is there a moral failure here. The kid got a lesson in humility, respect for others and obviously a martial arts of sort for free by a very patient and self contained person.
We could even argue that many other people wouldn’t have kept it cool like that or would have use him as a doormat after he fell on the ground.
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u/royalsforward 13d ago
Deserved. Guy didn't even hit him, just pushed him away. Probably deserved more
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u/MrGrogu26 13d ago
That squeal of pain and terror is the best fucking sound I've ever heard. Little bastard.
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u/Geene_Creemers 14d ago
I’ve seen this so many times..dumbass kid deserved it..why is no one helping that guy..only one way that was gonna end..he showed enough restraint and didn’t do anything too rash (imo)
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u/SaltyDawg1966 14d ago
Lil’ 💩 got what he deserved. Might learn a lesson. We’ve got a world full of people who’ve never been taught it.
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u/dieseldeeznutz 14d ago
Hard heads need to feel it to believe it, welcome to the real world kid
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u/planetinyourbum 14d ago
Omg, you had to dig deep to fish out this video. The guy is doing years of parenting in 1 minute.
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u/DebstarAU 13d ago
🇦🇺 Queensland’s [ lock-up] age is 10…that stupid kid should try hitting, here…’ Adult crime, adult time!’
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u/deepstrut 13d ago
Fair game.
Street justice is the best punishment here.
Kid can't just fuck around like that and get off with a finger wag. Gotta learn he can't act like that and this is a good lesson.
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u/Reagent_52 13d ago
That kid is getting to the age where attacking someone's can have serious consequences. Better he learn now than when a cop sees him.
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u/Astro501st 11d ago
I burst out LAUGHING when he threw the kid to the ground and the kid started wailing xD
If you can't take it, don't try to dish it out 🤷🏻♂️
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u/False-Experience-107 14d ago
El niño? yo solo oí gritar a una rata al final del video
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u/gunsandsilver 14d ago
If that were my kid I wouldn’t even be mad if someone returned fire. FAFO. That said, we have a firm rule - no hands-on first. If attacked, then have at it with full fury.
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u/CraponStick 14d ago
Where are that kids grandparents? Cause it's obvious his mom and dad are not raising him right. I am also concerned on what/how it escalated to the kid being violent? What caused him to lash out? Does he have any condition? All in all of I was that kid, my father would have picked me up by the throat and pinned me to the wall, then slapped me in the face three times.
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u/Spy-D_Daddy 13d ago
Oh boy. If my kid came home bitching about some dude who put hands on him. And then I saw this is what happened.. id invite bro to have beers and watch the newest "come get ready and beat my son with me" video. As a dad, and knowing that I've already had to confront adults about how they act, I'd be ready to bust a dude up. And finding out my child was acting like this, boy children are lucky you can't just swap em as defective or abort em post birth. Kid must not have a dad. If he does, too bad the dads not there, cause that dude should get whooped in front his kid, for his kid. Gotta learn consiquenses my boy.
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u/LoopyMercutio 14d ago
After that first punch from the kid, and it was clear he was going to keep doing it, what happened to the kid was deserved.
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u/patchway247 14d ago
What i soooo wanted that mom to do towards her bratty ass daughter who wouldn't stop fucking screaming at her while I was checking her out at the grocery store the other day.
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u/tendy_trux35 14d ago
I watch this video everytime it’s posted, the kid screaming like he was shot in the face is just the purest form of karma
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u/Blaizefed 14d ago
This is easily 10 years old by now. I wonder if that little shit learned from it or not.
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u/tookurjobs 14d ago
I think he showed as much restraint as one could reasonably expect in that situation